Oh. Well it's plain to see our problem then. I said the media spread lies and half truths. To me saying It's biblical to uphold the law is not the same as calling separation of immigrant families "biblical". I consider claiming that Sanders called the separation of immigrant families "biblical" based on what she actually said to be dishonest. They could just as soon have said Sanders calls abortions "biblical" because the law requires women to have access to them. If you're interpreting that as truth then sure - lies are a rarity. It's all good.
Yes, headlines are biased and manipulative. You read the articles attached, right? Cause if not... well... that's part of the problem.
Second, I never said that they specifically went on their news show and told deliberate and obvious lies. You're the one that's adding those qualifiers. When I say that they go into a frenzy of lies and half truths I mean that they deliberately cause the public to believe the truth is something other than what it actually is. They do it through selectively interviewing, they do it through opinion pieces, they do it through stretching the truth as far as it can be stretched without getting sued, They do it by playing up the good points of someone they like over and over and downplaying his bad points vice versa for someone they don't like, and more.
It is certainly biased and I'm happy to relabel it as such if it will make you happy. It doesn't make it it one stitch better in my opinion and according to my principles which clearly are not as loose as yours, there is plenty of dishonesty involved!
See, "Frenzy of lies" is pretty clear speach. "They lie alot and with fever" which is not what you just said. Example:
Truth: Donald Trump met with North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un.
Biased: Donald Trump happily met with ruthless dictator Kim Jong Un.
Lie: Donald Trump openly attempted to assassinate Kim Jong Un with poisoned handshake.
I don't think this is the media but :
https://twitter.com/LuisPin23257352/status/1011692323225432069
It's fine that you don't like Trump but
And here is where I have issues taking your arguments seriously.
You grabbed some person's twitter feed which has nothing more than a statement and a picture yet seem to think it's accurate.
The image itself is from "Raising the Skirt"
https://www.raisingtheskirt.com/ (NSFW!)
Here's a link to where the image is located(or one of the spots. Haven't found the unedited image yet):
http://www.justscoopedonline.com/2018/02/21/celebrate-vagina-diversity-is-a-thing-now-raising-your-skirt/
That last post wasn't an argument. It had nothing to do with my previous posts. I saw it on twitter and posted it cause I thought it was funny and weird. If I had been trying to make an argument I would have known whether it was the media or not, and if it was not the media, which I explicitly stated I thought it wasn't, how would it have helped my argument? I am happy to learn that it wasn't what I thought it was. It's sill weird tho, no matter who those women were and why they were doing that.
Thank-you for your lesson on bias and lying. I do read some articles and sometimes just headlines. A lie is still a lie whether it's in the headline or the article. You can call the Sanders headline whatever you like. I consider it a lie or at very best a half truth. And I see that kind of thing all the time. I'm beginning to see the problem now. The media is probably made up of people like you that think deliberately misleading their consumers and posting that people said things they didn't is fine because it's not lying - it's just bias. If that's what bias is, it's not OK with me, nor ever will it be.
So given that we're including what I consider to be lying and half-truths as part of the definition for bias, I am happy to rephrase.
And he will remain God until the media and the Dems realize that going into a frenzy of "biased language" in an attempt to discredit him is never gonna work.
First off, I never said it was an argument. My point was that YOU were duped into spreading a lie while arguing that lies are bad. I think that makes you are a liar. No better than the media you hate. Media or not, that person had an impact on you and had I not researched it (which most people didn't) you'd have thought it was true and that's that. The problem isn't the media. The media has always been biased. The problem is people like you who confirm your own bias by reading the bias of others.
I can see it in your language. Dems. Frenzy of Lies. Discredit him.
You're basically saying that the liberal media is evil and trying to discredit Trump. You say you don't like him but you don't argue the opposite about how the Repubs will give a frenzy of lies to support Trump.
And if you're really going to put bias and lies in the same category, then you must think everything is a lie. I mean, Marketing is baiscally a lie to you. Lawyers are liars. Politicians are liars. Pretty sure everyone here is a liar to you, including yourself.
Yes I know, Strawman, but if you consider manipulating information in a biased way to be a lie, then anyone who tries to argue anything is lying as they're only presenting their side.
I'm sure you don't like Jordan Peterson but here's what he had to say when he was quoted as saying something he did not in an opinion piece in the New York Times:
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1011877601063759872.
But Peterson should just calm down. It was just an opinion and they included some "biased language". What's the problem?
So I looked at this, then the actual interview.The NYT opinion piece heavily used quote breaks. You can see it. Do I think it's dishonest? Yes.
Here's the actual quote in context.
I never claimed there aren't lies in opinion pieces or outright quote mines. You see that in most of humanity, really.
See, the issue is that the news media, being a for profit organization, needs money. It gets money through advertisers and subscriptions. It gets that by having catchy headlines to appeal to their audience and convicne their audience to read/view/buy the news article. This is marketing 101: Give people what they want and what do people want? Stuff that confirms their bias.