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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What Religion are you?
« on: December 04, 2013, 01:20:35 AM »
NB: replace "Muslim" with "Bomb".
Not all Muslims bomb America and other countries.

Q.What do you call a Muslim with a gun?

A.Moderate.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What Religion are you?
« on: December 03, 2013, 11:58:33 PM »
NB: replace "Muslim" with "Bomb".

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What Religion are you?
« on: December 03, 2013, 08:27:07 PM »
I understand this may be nit-picky, but "Atheist" isn't a religion. It's the lack of a religion, if anything.

A religion is a set of beliefs about reality. You don't have to believe in God to be religious. I think atheism entails a particular set of beliefs about reality and it therefore can be defined as a religion.

Religions have holy texts, and a system of belief. Atheism has none of that, it's just the lack of belief in a God.

The God Delusion and the belief that gods are the product of man's imagination.

Atheism still isn't a religion though.

There are atheists that have never heard of (or are incapable of reading) The God Delusion.

Is this the whole "even babies are atheists" schtick again? Because if it is, you are an idiot.

Babies aren't the only ones incapable of reading.

Okay well if your point with that remark was that atheism is a default position that's completely untrue. Atheism is the position that a specific God/Gods doesn't exist.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What Religion are you?
« on: December 03, 2013, 07:43:16 PM »
I understand this may be nit-picky, but "Atheist" isn't a religion. It's the lack of a religion, if anything.

A religion is a set of beliefs about reality. You don't have to believe in God to be religious. I think atheism entails a particular set of beliefs about reality and it therefore can be defined as a religion.

Religions have holy texts, and a system of belief. Atheism has none of that, it's just the lack of belief in a God.

The God Delusion and the belief that gods are the product of man's imagination.

Atheism still isn't a religion though.

There are atheists that have never heard of (or are incapable of reading) The God Delusion.

Is this the whole "even babies are atheists" schtick again? Because if it is, you are an idiot.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What Religion are you?
« on: December 03, 2013, 12:54:31 AM »
Well I was referring to your inferring of a soul from our inability to determine an action's cognitive origin.
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In that case I suggest you look up dualism interactionism. This is a scientific theory on the soul which has much scientific evidence for it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What Religion are you?
« on: December 02, 2013, 10:42:31 PM »
Then why did you say...

There is scientific proof that they do exist and influence what we do. Brain scans from people asked to perform a task do not show a change in their brain activity when they do the task, such a registration of how far they would have to move their body to perform such a task. But obviously we do register such things. This suggests the existence of an immaterial thing that registers the details of a task and then uses our nervous system to perform it.

I misspoke. I should have said "scientific data".

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Also, this sounds an awful lot like a "God of the Gaps" argument.

No, my belief that nothing can come from nothing, and there must be a first cause of the universe, is based upon a deductive inference to the best cause of the universe, whose attributes happen to resemble God. That is the exact opposite of a God-of-the-gaps style argument.


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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« on: December 02, 2013, 07:52:09 PM »
2 bad the FES doesn't believe in the latter thing. 

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Flat Earth Community / Motive Behind the Conspiracy
« on: December 02, 2013, 07:32:37 PM »
What do you guys suggest as the motive behind this conspiracy thing?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What Religion are you?
« on: December 02, 2013, 03:46:30 PM »
I understand this may be nit-picky, but "Atheist" isn't a religion. It's the lack of a religion, if anything.

A religion is a set of beliefs about reality. You don't have to believe in God to be religious. I think atheism entails a particular set of beliefs about reality and it therefore can be defined as a religion.

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Flat Earth Community / How did NASA fake thousands of photos of flat earth
« on: December 02, 2013, 01:43:59 AM »
Explain why a google search for "earth's horizon" reveals tens of thousands of photos showing the earth is round. Photos which are in many cases live updated to blogs from the cameras on which they were taken.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Which Economic System is Best?
« on: December 01, 2013, 11:20:06 PM »
American-style Capitalism.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What Religion are you?
« on: December 01, 2013, 10:38:13 PM »


You're a gullible one, eh? Anyway, I said "scientific proof" not "whatever you can pull out of your ass."

You can't provide scientific "proof". Science does not "prove" anything. It assigns probability to certain events or notions about events. "Proofs" exist only in mathematics. I think my youtube vid provides evidence for the soul. The soul exists, it can be shown within a reasonable doubt to influence our behaviour.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What Religion are you?
« on: December 01, 2013, 10:30:51 PM »
There is scientific proof that they do exist and influence what we do. Brain scans from people asked to perform a task do not show a change in their brain activity when they do the task, such a registration of how far they would have to move their body to perform such a task. But obviously we do register such things. This suggests the existence of an immaterial thing that registers the details of a task and then uses our nervous system to perform it.

I urge you to show me this proof.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What Religion are you?
« on: December 01, 2013, 10:22:44 PM »
The necessity of His own maximally great nature.

Oh, I see, when asked direct questions you make shit up.

No, I am making a logical inference about God's nature from the modal ontological argument for God's existence. Look up Alvin Plantinga if you want to understand how that translates to my thinking about God.

It is greater to exist in an abstract sense than to not exist at all.

Simply having the idea of something existing doesn't correlate to it actually existing. I can imagine myself with the ability to shoot fire from my hands, but I don't actually have that ability, nor does any form of my persona exist anywhere in reality that has that ability.

Well obviously you couldn't think that and have it happen, but a soul can produce effects upon the body of the universe if it is contingent upon an abstract realm of it. Wiki mind-body dualism.

Souls don't exist.

There is scientific proof that they do exist and influence what we do. Brain scans from people asked to perform a task do not show a change in their brain activity when they do the task, such a registration of how far they would have to move their body to perform such a task. But obviously we do register such things. This suggests the existence of an immaterial thing that registers the details of a task and then uses our nervous system to perform it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What Religion are you?
« on: December 01, 2013, 09:42:24 PM »
The necessity of His own maximally great nature.

Oh, I see, when asked direct questions you make shit up.

No, I am making a logical inference about God's nature from the modal ontological argument for God's existence. Look up Alvin Plantinga if you want to understand how that translates to my thinking about God.

It is greater to exist in an abstract sense than to not exist at all.

Simply having the idea of something existing doesn't correlate to it actually existing. I can imagine myself with the ability to shoot fire from my hands, but I don't actually have that ability, nor does any form of my persona exist anywhere in reality that has that ability.

Well obviously you couldn't think that and have it happen, but a soul can produce effects upon the body of the universe if it is contingent upon an abstract realm of it. Wiki mind-body dualism.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What Religion are you?
« on: December 01, 2013, 09:31:56 PM »
What caused God?

The necessity of His own maximally great nature. It is greater to exist in an abstract sense than to not exist at all.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What Religion are you?
« on: December 01, 2013, 09:14:26 PM »
I find it laughable that any educated person could believe in atheism in the 21st century.  "Nothing came from nothing which exploded and randomly created self-replicating things that somehow created intelligent life, guys!"
I find it laughable that any educated person could be religious in the 21st century. "Nothing came from a giant can of beans which circles around Mars and is also invisible, but then that nothing exploded and created Barack Obama, guys!"

Well that's ridiculous. A can of beans couldn't cause a universe. Only an abstract being like God could.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What Religion are you?
« on: December 01, 2013, 09:07:51 PM »
I find it laughable that any educated person could believe in atheism in the 21st century.  "Nothing came from nothing which exploded and randomly created self-replicating things that somehow created intelligent life, guys!"

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