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Flat Earth Theory / Re: August 21, 2017 Solar Eclipse

« on: January 09, 2017, 08:26:18 PM »

Has the FES been making any predictions or just using the data that is being generated by the spherical scientists?

The data would be precisely identical. What would be the point of hiring someone (and where would we get the funding?) to replicate someone else's work? There's plenty of more useful things we could be doing.

Gotcha, so you are confortable trusting the  heliocentric spherical model's ability to predict astronomical events.

So if the predictive nature of the two models is identical then what is the FES explanation of solar eclipses?   It can still be used to predict things right?    The only thing I can find is the existence of some dark object that blocks the moon during Lunar eclipses.   

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: August 21, 2017 Solar Eclipse

« on: January 09, 2017, 04:19:01 PM »

I don't understand - why is a Round Earther trying to explain FET/Zeteticism to another Round Earther? You'd think you would have left it to someone who actually knows what they're talking about if you cared so much about truth over starting with a premise and saying whatever it takes to confirm it.

That said, eclipses are cyclical. You can predict future eclipses by following the well-known and documented pattern. This is true for both FET and RET.

So using your FE model can you tell me the date of the next solar eclipse after 2017, where it will be seen at full eclipse, and the times of full eclipse at those locations?   Has the FES been making any predictions or just using the data that is being generated by the spherical scientists?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: August 21, 2017 Solar Eclipse

« on: January 08, 2017, 04:41:18 PM »

Well that's a little disappointing.   I would have throught that a model that was fully embraced would have the ability to not only explain but also predict.   

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: August 21, 2017 Solar Eclipse

« on: January 07, 2017, 07:49:43 PM »

So the Flat Earth Society has no explanation for a solar eclipse?  They are unable to predict it?

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Flat Earth Theory / August 21, 2017 Solar Eclipse

« on: January 06, 2017, 03:19:05 AM »

So the heliocentrist spherical earth scientists are predicting a solar eclipse on August 21st in 2017.  They have calculated the locations across the world where a full eclipse will be visible and the timing in those locations down to the second.   How can they do this?  Can the flat earth scientists predict an event like this?   Are the scientists who are making these predictions really just flat earth scientists who are really smart?  What is the FES explanation for solar eclipses?

I searched the wiki but couldn't find anything about solar eclipses.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Interesting Video, Gyroscopes and more!

« on: December 26, 2016, 03:20:30 AM »

Interesting video for sure!
I have to admit i did kind of jump around, but i feel like I got the gist of it.
So here is my response:
I think the guy in this video is what Flat Earthers are saying is what's wrong with the whole system. From what I could, most of the points he made were things that your average person cannot see, feel or experience. For example, with the gyroscope he says: "If we could spin a gyroscope long enough, we would eventually see the curve of the earth" is something that he has no proof of being true other than some experiment done once in the mid 1800s. And when he says that that's how gyroscopes got there name is just a lie. Gyroscopes got there name because the "gyrate", or "spin in a circle."
As far as the Coriolis Effect, there are many unanswered questions about this in itself. For example: According to scientists, the Coriolis Effect is what causes weather patterns move the way that they do in the Northern and Southern Hemisphere. However, this is not consistent among all weather patterns. Which raises the question how come some weather systems are unaffected by the coriolis effect? And again with coriolis effect, how are we supposed to believe something that neither you or I can see or feel, something that our senses and logic tell us can't be possible?
I encourage you to look up the Sagnac Experiment and the Michealson-Morley Experiment, both of these have been repeated over and over again and famously show proof of a flat and stationary earth along with contradicting Einstein's Theory of Relativity.
And Lastly,
If the earth is a sphere and Antarctica is a continent, then why did James Cook and other explorers circumnavigate the "continent" and record distances between 50,000 and 60,000 miles?

Clearly you haven't researched Albert Michelson and his experiments yourself.  Using a Sagnac interferometer he detected the rotation of the earth in 1926 with Henry Gale.   Morley and Sagnac experiments used the interferometer but where looking for an aether that was being dragged by they earth which produced negative results.   

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Suns Position on 12/12/16

« on: December 15, 2016, 02:10:18 AM »

There are many inclinometer apps that will get you within a degree or two. 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Suns Position on 12/12/16

« on: December 13, 2016, 07:47:14 PM »

What latitude ring is the sun orbiting on 12/12/16?

This is from a very much Globe Earth site NOAA ESRL, Solar Position Calculator.
It is a "fiddly" to use for this purpose, but I think you will find that
         on 12/Dec/16, the sun was directly over Lat 23.13°S and
         on 21/Dec/16, the sun will be directly over Lat 23.44°S, that is, the Tropic of Capricorn.
But the answers from the Flat Earth calculations would I imagine lead to the same result.

Hey, lets all post observations of the sun's elevation at our local noon's on the 21st December. We could include the latitude at which the observation was taken and post the results as answers to this thread.
The results and the conclusions people draw from them could be "interesting".

So we would measure the sunrise azimuth, high noon elevation in degrees above level in degrees, and sunset azimuth?

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Flat Earth Theory / Suns Position on 12/12/16

« on: December 13, 2016, 04:41:37 AM »

What latitude ring is the sun orbiting on 12/12/16?