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Do someone love the music of Johann Sebastian Bach ?
« on: July 13, 2016, 01:53:14 PM »
Did you know that the music of Johann Sebastian Bach was not written by him according to my understanding of the truth.
Bach was a fictional figure, the one who wrote his music was some kind of a demon or shadow figure which was influence by true human being.
The life of JSB was forged to make the history seem linear and logical. but his music is far more advanced than any other music.
I believe the world to be existing for 100 years not because I see thing or hear things, because I believe the world couldn't exist before the age of cars,planes,Moving pictures and the rest of what we mistakley call: Technology which means, Techno(technical) nol lag, to make the technical become more stupid.
There are more things in the music of bach that was being distorted but you should ask what and I will answer.

Re: Do someone love the music of Johann Sebastian Bach ?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2016, 02:53:09 PM »
Welcome to the new radical chronology of history.

Now the other website is down again; later on, you can actually read my messages on how the entire classical music was forged/faked at least after 1780 AD (from Monteverdi to Mozart), the Advanced Flat Earth Theory thread in the FE Believers section.

Re: Do someone love the music of Johann Sebastian Bach ?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2016, 03:23:20 PM »
Exploding the myth of Mozart:

http://www.rense.com/general45/mozrt.htm


The documented changes in Mozart's handwriting throw a further shadow over the authenticity of his works. Careful study of the autographs from the period 1770-1780 in particular has revealed clearly discernable changes in Mozart's script that have largely been accepted as legitimate developmental changes, even though it has been acknowledged that "these changes do not occur simultaneously or with rigorous consistency", and that they sometimes occurred quite suddenly. For instance, notational symbols that appeared fairly consistently throughout 1769 changed considerably in the following year, and, interestingly enough, with the autograph for the Litany K.125 from 1772 (a piece whose authenticity is questionable), it changed once again (Eisen 1991: 173).

Could it be that the numerous changes and inconsistencies in Mozart's handwriting over his lifetime were the result of many hands masquerading as one?

Thus, far from being a compositional genius and creative force, one is left with the undeniable impression of Mozart as rather a master of appropriation and imitation, and a musical hack, who was guilty of fraud and deception. The doubtful might well ask if Mozart was indeed capable of this, and if it was even in keeping with his character, and the answer to this is most definitely 'yes'.



http://web.archive.org/web/20110805132716/http://www.artofrecordproduction.com/content/view/195/22/

Each and every one Mozart's piano sonatas are based on Fibonacci numbers sequences/formulas.


Evidence suggests that classical music composed by Mozart, Beethoven, and Bach embraces phi.


In a 1996 article in the American Scientist, for example, Mike Kay reported that Mozart’s sonatas were divided into two parts exactly at the Golden Mean point in almost all cases. Inasmuch as Mozart’s sister had said that Amadeus was always playing with numbers and fascinated by mathematics, it appears that this was either a conscious choice or an intuitive one. Meanwhile, Derek Haylock noted that in Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony (possibly his most famous one), the famous opening “motto” appears in the first and last bars, but also at the Golden Mean point (0.618) of the way through the symphony, as well as 0.382 of the way (i.e., the Golden Mean squared). Again, was it by design or accident? Keep in mind that Bartók, Debussy, Schubert, Bach and Satie may have also deliberately used the Golden Mean in their music.

http://www.maths.surrey.ac.uk/hosted-sites/R.Knott/Fibonacci/fibInArt.html#mozart



https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258507180_THE_MATHEMATICAL_ARCHITECTURE_OF_BACH'S_''THE_ART_OF_FUGUE''


http://people.sju.edu/~rhall/proposal.pdf (page 5 for an example of Bach's use of mathematics in creating music)


http://www.limelightmagazine.com.au/Article/356061,deconstructing-the-genius-of-bach.aspx


http://www.ncurproceedings.org/ojs/index.php/NCUR2012/article/view/151 (An Examination of J.S. Bach's compositions using the golden ratio and Fibonacci Sequence) - you can access the pdf version there


One of the greatest works on the new radical chronology of history: The Pauline Epistles:

http://www.egodeath.com/edwinjohnsonpaulineepistles.htm



Christoph Pfister, the great historian who discovered that before 1700 AD there was no human presence on the territory of what is known today as Switzerland, from my favorite website on the internet, http://dillum.ch/

http://dillum.ch/html/manifesto_historical_criticism_ch.pfister_2016.htm
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Re: Do someone love the music of Johann Sebastian Bach ?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2016, 04:32:27 PM »
Thank you very much, we may have disagreements but I appreciate your voyage to truth.

George

Re: Do someone love the music of Johann Sebastian Bach ?
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2016, 05:19:38 PM »
Who actually wrote the Beatles music?

The person who actually wrote all the Beatles songs was Theodor Adorno, a music professor from Frankfurt University. And none of the songs were original, Adorno, a genius on the subject of theoretical music cleverly adapted well-known classical partitures, to create the Beatles songs.

Here are some examples...

Yellow Submarine is actually the theme from Verdi's Aida combined the Toreador song from Carmen by Bizet.

Can't buy me love is actually Aine Kleine Nacht Musik by Mozart, ingeniously modified.

Penny Lane is the Elvira Madigan Piano Concerto No. 21 by Mozart, modified.

From me to you is the Peer Gynt suite, Morning Mood, by E. Grieg

I want to hold your hand is a modified From me to you (listen carefully and compare the two songs)

Yesterday is a modified Neapolitan song, called "Piccere' Che Vene a Dicere"

Let us remember that the original J. Lennon/P. McCartney duo could neither write nor read music; in the period 1960-1962 they sang only cover songs, and manifested no music writing talent whatsoever

Got to get into my life is a modified Can't buy me love

I feel fine is actually Fire Dance by M. de Falla

Martha my Dear is a modified classical song, Martha by von Flotow (see )

Something is nothing more than the theme from Spartacus by Khachaturian

For Hey Jude, Adorno pulled out all stops, he grouped into one song, masterfully, the Ride of the Walkiries by Wagner, the theme from the Piano Concerto no. 1 by Tchaikovsky, and the theme from Symphony no 9 by Beethoven

Blackbird is actually the Hungarian Fantasy by Liszt

Get Back is Obladi Oblada modified

Sgt. Pepper is clever combination of the Radetzky March and the Romanian rhapsody no 1 by Enescu

And Adorno reworked some of the Beatles songs to create others: She Loves You is a modified From Me to You, as is You're gonna lose that girl

A Hard Day's Night is a modified Mozart serenade

Ballad of John and Yoko is a modified And Your Bird can Sing


Theodor Adorno (seen here: http://www.nndb.com/people/754/000026676/adorno.gif ) also wrote the entire British invasion: that is, the music of the Rolling Stones, Kinks, the Who, See Emily Play by Pink Floyd, and also Moody Blues' Days of Future Past (Nights in white satin is a modified theme from Swan Lake by Tchaikovsky), the songs for Mamas and the Papas, Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Crosby Stills and Nash, Iron Butterfly (Adorno wrote In a gadda da vida), Cream, Queen (We are the Champions, a modified Hey Jude, and Seaside Rendezvous, a modified Martha my Dear).

John Coleman actually discovered that Adorno owned the Beatles catalogue, from 1962 until his death in August 1969, and that he invented the heavy metal/punk styles of music.

The first five Led Zeppelin albums were also written by Adorno (he wrote music extensively, borrowing from Beatles songs and other, from 1964 to 1969); the Rain Song is a modified Something (that is the theme from Spartacus by Khachaturian), see the thieving magpies google search details.

The music for Jethro Tull (the early albums, including Aqualung and Thick as a Brick) were also written years ahead by Adorno, as was the Machine Head album by Deep Purple (Highway Star is a modified Magical Mystery Tour song).

The best B. Sabbath songs, Spiral Architect and She's Gone were also among the songs written for them by Adorno (copies of She's Leaving Home and the Rain Song).

Upon leaving the Featles project (1967-1969), Fohn Lennon was given some songs written also by Adorno to continue a possible solo carrier: Imagine, Bless You, Mind Games (a modified All You Need is Love).

F. McCartney was given more songs, but not enough to compare disasters like Ram to the Beatles albums: Another Day, Maybe Im Amazed (a modified Long and winding Road), My Love (a modified All my Loving), Live and Let Die (a modified Magical Mystery Tour), Admiral Holsy (the best post Beatles song by McCartney, that is, by Adorno) and some others.

F. Harrison was given Dark Horse (a modified Gallows Pole by Adorno, who was inspired from black soul music), What is Love (a modified Satisfaction), and What is Life, not to mention My Sweet Lord (which Adorno copied from some early sixties music, and got Harrison into plagiarism trouble).

The Rolling Stones music was written by Adorno, as I have mentioned already: Satisfaction is a modified Ticket to Ride, Lady Jane is a modified Norwegian Wood, Jumpin Jack Flash is a modified Satisfaction, and so on...

The Beach Boys were also created musically by Adorno, who wrote the entire Pet Sounds album, God only Knows (a modified Michelle), Sloop John B (a modified Eight Days a Week), and later California Girls...

Here is an interview with Adorno:



Adorno was a master at adapting classical music to suit his own purposes, that is, the institute which hired him to social engineer the entire 60s and 70s.

On the complexity of the Beatles songs:

http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/VOLUME01/A_Beatles_Odyssey.shtml
http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/awp-notes_on.shtml

And, all of the ABBA songs are nothing more than modified Beatles songs:

Dum Dum Diddle is a modified Obladi Oblada

Voulez Vous is Hello Goodbye all over again

Rock Me is actually a copied With a Little Help from My Friends

Dancing Queen is a modified Goodnight (from the White Album)

Mamma Mia is a modified Penny Lane

SOS is a modified Here Comes the Sun

Money Money Money is a modified Sgt. Pepper

Move on is a modified Blackbird

Take a chance on me is a modified We can Work it out (which is a modified Help)

Dance while the music still goes on is a modified I Saw Her Standing Her (borrowed by Adorno from one of Mozart's serenades)

Chiquitita is Michelle all over again

Eagle is a modified Maybe Im Amazed

Waterloo is a modified A Hard Days Night

Prior to 1972 both B. Anderson and B. Ulvaeus manifested no musical talent whatsoever (that is, at composing songs), all of a sudden, beginning with 1972, they came up, unexplicably, with a Mozart genius-like talent at writing songs, which expired suddenly in 1979.

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Re: Do someone love the music of Johann Sebastian Bach ?
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2016, 05:25:12 PM »
Very intriguing George, thank you.

Re: Do someone love the music of Johann Sebastian Bach ?
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2016, 05:29:10 PM »
Many musicians thought that someone else wrote the entire Beatles catalog, some even mentioned Adorno, but none were able to explain HOW it was done.

I was the first to actually explain how classical scores were genially modified by Adorno to make the Beatles the greatest musical band ever (the previous message was actually written by me).

My ideas on the subject, updated here:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg770568#msg770568

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg805137#msg805137

And, of course, my top 20 Adorno songs:

http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=4327.0

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Re: Do someone love the music of Johann Sebastian Bach ?
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2016, 05:50:50 PM »
Sandokhan I would like to see links for all of your ideas please.

George

Re: Do someone love the music of Johann Sebastian Bach ?
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2016, 06:08:29 PM »
Yes, all credit to sandokhan for the post I submitted.  Copypasta is just sort of my thing on this website.

Re: Do someone love the music of Johann Sebastian Bach ?
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2016, 06:43:52 PM »
The McCartney twins theory:

http://mileswmathis.com/paul8.pdf

For those who don't know, the Beatles were replaced in September 1966; while the new McCartney was very talented and was able to fill Paul's shoes, the new Lennon (featured in How I Won The War) had a different personality from that of John, that is why most of the singles 1967-1970 were sung by McCartney II.


My ideas (also include a link to the other website):

http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=4429.0