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Your nothing more than a nobody who isn't even worth of being mentioned in the same breath as Dr Samuel Rowbotham. Your a nobody, and deserve to be treated like the arrogant, disrespectful little worm you are.

Don't do that. Stick to arguments, not personal attacks. Warned.
Doesn't really bother me but I find it odd I get warned after I apologise for it and we both move on.

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Not sure why i am posting this pic other than to provide more credentials.

The attached pic was taken a few minutes ago, it shows the sea, and outside of the ship in the background, sorry for the quality, but its the best i could do, along with the vessels position, and importantly GMT time and date on the GPS display.

I dont think anyone could have scalped pictures that fast, and photoshopped them!

You could post a little sign with the sea in the background saying "Hi Parallax", I suppose. But it doesn't matter. You can show in great detail the measurements you're doing, and they will be proclaimed an "obvious fake". Rowbotham's account of his experiments will continue to outweigh everything done by everyone else.
I already acknowledged the photo as proof.

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Read Dr Rowbothams work, I'm sure your capable of doing that yourself.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Speed of The Sun
« on: April 14, 2018, 02:16:59 PM »
No. Speed and distance are not the same thing.

Speed = how fast something moves
Distance = how far away something is

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Quote from: xenotolerance link=topic=9415.msg147103#msg147103
Rowbotham's atmospheric magnification is not a real thing
No, its definitely real. And its not Dr Rowbothams 'atmospheric magnification'.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Speed of The Sun
« on: April 14, 2018, 02:04:25 PM »
I don't think its possible to measure the speed of the sun. We know it circles the earth but even Dr Rowbotham didn't, to my knowledge, calculate its speed.

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No, me claiming to be on a ship it doesn’t make it true, but on this occasion it is.
I have posted a copy of my credentials, i have given details of where i am, but no matter what i provide you would never believe me, so it does not matter what’s you think.

As for the anti Semitic comments, i have searched for the thread, but it has been deleted along with my reply to your remarks. (Anti semetism is racism)

I can see the trend in this discussion is to turn it into a personal attack on me, to distract from a very real attempt at allowing you to debate the topic at hand, ie the earths magnetic field, and how it fits in with FE theory, which it does not.

The only point of discussion that has been offered is Toms assertion that nothing was known about magnetism before Enag was published, and a claim that magnetic theory was changed because it was too inconvenient.

I would love to hear how the lines of force fit in with the flat earth, if there is a bar magnet, a radial magnet, and the lines of force, but while charts showing dip, variation and intensity have all been provided so far to support the RE theory, not a jot of Empirical evidence has been presented by anyone.

As this does not further the discusssion, there is no point in conversing with you further.

I have posted details of experiments which can be tried simply, and cheaply that can be replicated, so can i suggest they are actually tried. It wont take you more than 5 minutes, and no money if you have a little compass and magnet, and would be fascinated and genuinely thrilled if anyone were able to produce alternate results.
I never said you weren't on a ship. I said you claimed to be. Your photo is good enough for me to accept you are being truthful.

I accept Dr Rowbothams experiments. People here call me a troll, because apparently nobody could accept Earth not a globe as truthful work unless they are a troll  ::) Apparently.

Maybe I have been too harsh on you. I apologise for that. At the end of the day you post your theories, I refer to Dr Rowbotham. That's how it is.

And pointing out Israel gets away with, quite literally, murder in Palestine is not anti semitism.

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I slept very well last night, was a calm night, and when i got up this morning i saw we had proceeded further along out track.
I wonder how we do it? As we obviously dont know what we are doing?

I think the best thing to do with Parallax is to ignore his personal attacks and insults. It is obvious he is one of the chosen ones who can insult people, spout racial abuse, and get away with it on this forum.

Back to the subject at hand;

This link takes you to a paper on what was known, when and different studies, and certainly by the time EnaG was published in 1881 there was an awful lot known about magnetism, and later studies were supporting what was widely accepted, and disproved others. Part of the Smithsonian institute papers. It’s authenticity will be no doubt will be questioned.

https://repository.si.edu/bitstream/handle/10088/2448/SSHT-0048_Lo_res.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y

It was known that the needle aligns itself with the magnetic lines of flux, and not directly at the pole by the time EnaG was written, so therefore to make the assumption that it did is an error of principle, that renders the statements in the chapter as untrustworthy, or cannot be relied upon.
Racial abuse? You see, that's just completely made up, I have done nothing of the sort.

Rowbotham didn't rely on newspaper articles either. He referred to them sometimes, and referenced them, but he didn't rely on them at all. Most of his experiments did not reference them. Though its hilarious how if Dr Rowbotham referenced an article, he's useless. Yet this forum is full of round earth heretics quoting some website, and its totally fine. Hmmm....

Please see below lifted directly from Enag, clearly he takes distances written in letters to newspapers, and uses that to develop his proof, the distances are wrong by the way!

If the data he scalped from newspapers is wrong, then his conclusion is wrong. It follows the old saying “Garbage in Garbage out”!



The following extract furnishes additional evidence upon this important point:--

"EXTRAORDINARY VOYAGE.--Every yachtsman (says the Dublin Express), will share in the pride with which, a correspondent relates a brilliant, and, we believe, unexampled exploit which has just been performed by a small yacht of only 25 tons, which is not a stranger to the waters of Dublin Bay. The gallant little craft set out from Liverpool for the antipodes, and arrived safely in Sydney after a splendid run, performing the entire distance, 16,000 miles, in 130 days. Such an achievement affords grounds for reasonable exultation, not more as a proof of the nautical skill of our amateurs, than of their adventurous spirit, which quite casts in the shade the most daring feats of Alpine climbers." 1

A s the distance from Melbourne to Cape of Good Hope is 7140 nautical miles, as shown by the log of the Great Britain, and as the whole distance from Melbourne to Liverpool was 14,688 nautical miles, it follows that, deducting 7140 from 14,688, that the passage from the Cape of Good Hope to Liverpool was 7548 nautical miles. If we take this distance from the 16,000 miles, which the

p. 96

above mentioned yacht sailed to Sydney, we have as the distance between Cape of Good Hope and Sydney, 8452 nautical, or 9860 statute miles.

In a letter from Adelaide which appeared in the Leeds Mercury for April 20th, 1867, speaking of certain commercial difficulties which had existed there, the following incidental passage occurs:--

"Just as our harvest was being concluded, the first news arrived of anticipated dearth of breadstuffs at home. The times. were so hopelessly dull, money was so scarce, and the operation of shipping wheat a distance of 14,000 miles so dangerous, that for a long time the news had no practical effect."

From England to Adelaide is here stated as 14,000 nautical, or 16,333 statute miles; and as the difference of longitude between Adelaide and Sydney is 23 degrees, equal to 1534 statute miles, we find that from England to Sydney the distance is 17,867 statute miles. Taking from this the 7548 nautical, or 8806 statute miles, we have again 9061 statute miles as the distance between the Cape of Good Hope and Sydney.”

Once again, you are missing what I am saying. I have already acknowledged Dr Rowbotham referenced newspaper articles. I said he didn't outright rely on them, and the fact the overwhelming majority of his book doesn't refer to them is proof. All he did was use them after some initial experiments, to do some more calculations based on what has been written. You are making out like his entire book is based on newspaper articles which is not the case.

So enjoy your night. Your nothing more than a nobody who isn't even worth of being mentioned in the same breath as Dr Samuel Rowbotham. Your a nobody, and deserve to be treated like the arrogant, disrespectful little worm you are.

This is primarily sad. OK, it's idiotic, and rude, and unpleasant, but I'd be very surprised if Tontogary were to lose a moment's sleep over it. It's just noise really.

The sad part is that Parallax is nominally someone with an interest in science, in inquiry, in learning about how the Earth works. He insists that he wants to investigate things for himself, that he has an independent viewpoint.

And here we have someone who spends his time actually navigating around the world. He takes ships thousands of miles, over open sea with no land in sight, and they arrive at the correct destination. He's actually come on here giving of his time to explain how this works - how he actually figures out where on the planet he is.

Now, as someone with an interest in the subject, I recognise how privileged I am to have access to this. It's by far the most interesting thing to be posted on this forum since I first encountered it. It's a source of actual hard data. Isn't that fantastic?

But Parallax, the supposed free-spirited enquirer, has no interest in that kind of thing. He doesn't want to know about actual measurements taken by an actual person he can talk to. He's just as free-spirited and open-minded as any religious fundamentalist. If the holy text is contradicted by someone's first-hand observation, too bad for first-hand observation.

So what would convince someone like Parallax? He's not convinced by testimony from actual people. He has no intention of doing any actual research of his own. He's easily convinced by the nonsensical ramblings of the likes of pbrane, who was on the point of understanding basic optics, but then retreated into confusion and obfuscation about "perspective".

Obviously those of us who are actually independent thinkers instead of saying "I am an independent thinker"* would welcome as much information as possible - especially first-hand information. And we'd welcome information that challenges our assumptions. If a flat Earther comes up with an anomaly which appears to contradict the wealth of information that supports the shape of the globe, we should welcome it. It's not that we expect it to overturn the theory. It's that it will be inherently of interest, and if there are genuine observations that need to be explained, then we'll end up wiser from addressing them.

Of course, everybody posting here will proudly proclaim that they're an independent thinker. One can just the truth of the claim by their willingness to test their beliefs against reality.

I do think for myself. Instead I have had to put up with condescending remarks from tontogary, but hey, that's okay apparently.

The experiments here are nothing of the sort. We have a man claiming to be on a ship somewhere. Doesn't make it true.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: On a globe Earth the horizon should not curve
« on: April 13, 2018, 08:44:49 PM »
Can you quote Rowbotham where he said anything about the drop of Nile?

Dr Rowbotham already said it drops only a foot. That's it. End of.

Tom, ask Parallax where he found the quote.
Apologies, I made a mistake and got Dr Rowbotham mixed up with William Carpenter. I hold my hands up to that one.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Infinite earth or disc?
« on: April 13, 2018, 08:14:18 PM »
It's not an infinite terrain. As explained by Dr Rowbotham, the ice wall encircles the earth and extends for hundreds of miles where hurricanes rage, temperatures plummet to inhospitable levels, and light is eventually lost to perpetual darkness.

Dr Rowbotham was also able to explain that earth floats on the waters of the great deep. Certainly, I would direct you to read Dr Rowbothams work, Earth not a globe, if you haven't already.

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Yeah your constant disrespect and clear obsession of Dr Rowbotham is pretty embarrassing.

I can think for myself, thanks. I was round earth, but then I questioned everything and found Dr Rowbothams work. It was revolutionary, truly eye opening. If I'm a sheep for accepting the work of a visionary such as Dr Rowbotham, then I guess I'm a sheep.

And its a bit hypocritical to question 'childish name calling' when you only stopped saying 'charlatan Rowbotham' because you didn't want Junkers banhammer brought down.

Also you haven't provided any proof. You conducted zero experiments, simply posted some stuff on a forum, and proclaimed it true. For God's sake, you've even claimed to be close to providing 'irrefutable proof' that the earth is round. Some messiah complex you got there.

Dr Rowbotham didn't rely on newspaper articles either. He referred to them sometimes, and referenced them, but he didn't rely on them at all. Most of his experiments did not reference them. Though its hilarious how if Dr Rowbotham referenced an article, he's useless. Yet this forum is full of round earth heretics quoting some website, and its totally fine. Hmmm....

So enjoy your night. Your nothing more than a nobody who isn't even worth of being mentioned in the same breath as Dr Samuel Rowbotham. Your a nobody, and deserve to be treated like the arrogant, disrespectful little worm you are.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: On a globe Earth the horizon should not curve
« on: April 13, 2018, 05:24:47 PM »
Oh well if Google says so it must be true.
Nope, I figured it out all by myself, and you could too if you had the guts.

Dr Rowbotham already said it drops only a foot. That's it. End of.

Called it! Here is what I wrote earlier: "And am I right when I assume that you have no intention whatsoever of addressing my original topic, the expected straight horizon? Am I right when I assume that you have dug in, and it's going to be 'the Nile drops one foot' from here on out?"
In another post you wrote that Rowbotham should be honored and respected and that he was a visionary scientist ahead of his time and so on. That's how I spell 'guru'.

This 'FE movement' bears all the hallmarks of a cult. The old, visionary leader, the 2-3 bumper sticker slogans and the unwillingness to even consider the counter arguments presented... This has nothing whatsoever to do with the shape of the Earth, it's all about being in a community, where the faithful believers are special and argue contrary to what 99.9999999% of the rational beings on Earth know is true. You are the chosen ones, the few who see the real truth, you fight oppression and ridicule, but together you stand strong, and nothing, nothing at all, will ever be allowed to convince you that you are wrong.

PS: Rowbotham was not a doctor by any stretch of the imagination. If you disagree, please tell me where he got his degree.

I know... 'The Nile drops one foot and Professor Doctor Rowbotham, PhD spake the Truth, the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth. Amen!!!'
Figured it out by using Google? I have the guts, I just don't need to 'figure' anything out, Dr Rowbotham has already done it.

I don't know where you got the idea flat earth movement is a cult. All we do is accept that earth isn't a globe. Yes, Dr Rowbotham was the founder of the zetetic movement, but its not a cult. We don't worship him in any way whatsoever.

And no, its on you to prove he wasn't a doctor. I referred to him as one, you stated it as an absolute fact he wasn't. I didn't say to you that he absolutely was. So it's on you to prove he wasn't.

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Dr Rowbotham conducted his experiments over many years.

...and recorded the results in his writings


You on the other hand, claim to conduct 'experiments', but its nothing more than a forum post on a website. That's not an experiment, that's typing guff on a keyboard.

...as opposed to Rowbotham's guff in a book?

What do you have of Rowbotham's 'experiments' apart from his writings?
Again with the disrespect. These round earth heretics are bang out of order.

Dr Rowbotham produced actual tried and tested experiments. They can be recreated today and the results come out the same, unless you use some flawed round earth method which gives God only knows what results.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: On a globe Earth the horizon should not curve
« on: April 13, 2018, 03:46:33 PM »
Oh well if Google says so it must be true.

Dr Rowbotham already said it drops only a foot. That's it. End of.

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If you know full well what he opened the book with, and are a follower of his writings, surely you should follow them all, or do you get to choose which bits to follow? I do not have to respect a person who also in turn disrespects almost every eminent scientist mentioned in his book. Newton being a chief among them, along with Herschel, and a bunch of others. I am doing what he says, critiquing the statements and experiments, and showing why such statements as the needle always points directly to the pole are flawed.

I have already been warned by Junker to stoop using that term, but i guess it is relative to your question, i will answer it, but cannot understand however, why you never get warned for personal attacks, and ranting, i am led to believe that you are an ALT of Junker; but in this context i am answering your question.

From the dictionary;

Charlatan;

a person falsely claiming to have a special knowledge or skill.”

synonyms:   quack, mountebank, sham, fraud, fake, humbug, impostor, pretender, masquerader, hoodwinker, hoaxer, cheat, deceiver, dissembler, double-dealer, double-crosser, trickster, confidence trickster, cheater, swindler, fraudster, racketeer.

Which is pretty much an apt description of him, in my OPINION.
If your OPINION of him was that he was a doctor, without any proof, then MY OPINION of him is the term I used. I never anywhere said that he was not a flat earth believer. He may have believed in a flat earth, but certainly he claimed to have a special knowledge about the earth being flat, when all the empirical evidence points to it being round, so yes i think my Opinion is correct.

Which gets us knowhere. I agreed to stop using the term to avoid arguments and bans, and would hoped you would do the same, but it looks like you have a get out of jail free card, and are able to use whatever language you wish. It’s like tying to debate and being only allowed a 1/4 of the dictionary.

Anyway on to the topic;
I am exploring the “proofs” provided in EnaG and was hoping for a rational discussion, other than  “He was true, you are wrong.” That does not add anything to the discussion at all.
Exploring why someone is wrong is not disrespectful. Again i refer you to his preface that i copied, and you copied.

As for providing evidence that experiments in EnaG are flawed, I am pretty certain I did. The pictures of the magnetic field around a bar magnet and the picture provided in ENAG along with his assertion that the needle points directly to the pole are evidence that his statement is incorrect, and therefore flawed at 1st principles.
This then can be taken (in the same way he uses the argument) that the “earth cannot be plane so must be global”.

I see yourself have not advanced any theories yourself other than EnaG proves xxxx or yyyy.

When you can back up your slavish beliefs of dodgy annecdotal experiments heavily reliant on 3rd party accounts taken from articles written in journals or magazines, with modern day observations and accurate measurements i will take you more seriously.

As for Tom Bishops statements i will address that in another post.
No, I don't cherry pick what Dr Rowbotham says, I've been very fair to people here. You, on the other hand, are different. You personally disrespect the memory of Dr Rowbotham and post 'experiments' which are nothing more than a post on a forum. That's not an experiment, it's a message board post.

And it's also outrageous how you imply he's a charlatan. Now I've called you out you backtrack and say it's your opinion, which is still incorrect. You say he's not a Dr, yet can provide no proof whatsoever to back up those claims. We can at least point to his grave, what have you got? Oh yeah, he didn't go to uni in Germany or America. Because as we know, all doctors in those days went to Germany and America, none of them qualified domestically  ::)

And nowhere in his book does he claim to have 'special knowledge'. That's a claim you've simply made up right now.

If you simply disagreed with him, that's fine. But constantly calling him charlatan is not respectful.

The evidence in his book was logically sound and the facts are irrefutable. Earth is not a globe.

I can see that you've not proved anything, and instead spouted out what amounts to

"Charlatan Rowbotham was wrong, I've sailed around the world (apparently) so I am right"

The articles he mentioned were referred to, his outright experiments did not rely on newspaper sources. You'd know this if you read his book properly. You have yet to prove him wrong.

Perhaps you should get out of the armchair, rethink your slavish beliefs, and maybe, just maybe, you'll start to think for yourself. The evidence points to earth being flat, though I doubt it. You are so blinkered in your views that nothing whatsoever would sway you. We could take to to space and show you the earth being flat and you still wouldn't believe.

There are none so blind as those who cannot see.

Sounds like an angry rant to me!

Firstly i have provided my credentials in a previous thread, so they should be in no doubt, you dont get a Master Mariners licence by sitting in an armchair, but just to wipe the smug smile off your face;
My last 2 noon reports sent to my company show that we were as follows,
Yesterday 21 49.5N 126 51.2E and today 15 25.6N 127 25.8E we are travelling from Asia to Australia, i am afraid i cannot give out precise details of my vessels name exact route or other data due to security.
I am not in an armchair but on a ship.

I have been making observations and providing proof, but all you do is insult me personally, and try to discredit me, well I ain’t going anywhere, and i will continue to explore EnaG. I will quote him as often as i like, it is you who disrespect him and his memory by refusing to follow his words, and having a closed mind to any possibility of being wrong.

However it is also not you, your sum total to the forums so far as i can see is saying anyone who does not agree with you is wrong, and yet you do not offer ANY single idea, proof or evidence other than EnaG proves it.

I stopped calling that person a Charlatan to avoid a ban by Junker, nothing to do with you. I really could not give 2 hoots what you think he was, i have my opinion and you, yours, and yes they are both opinions. You prove a positive I will agree. You provide no proof, sorry tough for you.

I have provided explanations as to why his observations on magnetic force and direction is wrong, but you say I have not, seems like you dont want to know rational descriptions and understandable repeatable evidence.

I can only conclude your throwing your toys out of the Pham, and personal insults are aimed at trying to get me banned, as i am getting too close to providing the irrefutable proofs needed to burst the FE bubble, sorry it wont work, and on that note I will go onto explore a further “proof” laid out in EnaG....
Oh don't worry, you haven't wiped any 'smug smile' off my face. I don't have one for starters.

You claim to be on a ship... well I suppose we'll just have to take your word for that then.

I'm not disrespecting his memory. In fact I honour Dr Rowbotham by following his work. I know it to be absolutely irrefutable proof of the earths lack of roundness, and happily debate with other people. You, on the other hand, make false claims about him being a charlatan, say his experiments were conducted incorrectly leading to incorrect results, and question him being a Dr. And you dare to question my respect? I happily question others, but you are downright insulting to his memory.

Though its hilarious how you claim to be close to providing irrefutable proof earth is round. You on a crusade or something? Again, Dr Rowbotham conducted his experiments over many years. You on the other hand, claim to conduct 'experiments', but its nothing more than a forum post on a website. That's not an experiment, that's typing guff on a keyboard. Dr Rowbotham was a well respected expert, remembered 134 years after his death. Who are you? You're nobody. I'd say you'd be lost to the mists of time, but hell, they've already engulfed you.

So Enag does not refer to newspapers??

Maybe you should consult the list on page 426, which is titled

List of Works, Newspapers, periodicals, public correspondence,and (scripture texts??) reffered to or quoted from[/u]

Just glancing down I see;
Boston post 1856, P 92,
Brighton Examiner, 1870, P107,
Cheltenham Examiner, 1865, P95,
Liverpool Mercury, 1867, P97,

Etc etc etc.

The list of newspapers is quite long.

Care to continue claiming he didnt refer to newspaper articles for his “proofs”??

Maybe you should actually read the book, and understand what is written before making false claims that you cannot substantiate.
I said he didn't rely on newspaper sources. Rely. He didn't. I know he referenced them.

Go back to your armchair, nobody.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: On a globe Earth the horizon should not curve
« on: April 13, 2018, 07:18:47 AM »
Now I understand what you are saying.

Yes, the airport is built on higher land a couple of miles away. The Nile only falls a foot.
I suspect it to be futile, but have you any evidence of your claim? A man saying so in a book is not evidence.

Dam quite conclusively proves otherwise, regardless of the state of the airport. Denial only shows you for either a troll or not understanding how a dam works. Personally still going with choice number 1.
Funny, cos man saying so on a forum isn't evidence.

Dr Rowbotham was astute in his experiments. The Nile drops only a foot.

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If you know full well what he opened the book with, and are a follower of his writings, surely you should follow them all, or do you get to choose which bits to follow? I do not have to respect a person who also in turn disrespects almost every eminent scientist mentioned in his book. Newton being a chief among them, along with Herschel, and a bunch of others. I am doing what he says, critiquing the statements and experiments, and showing why such statements as the needle always points directly to the pole are flawed.

I have already been warned by Junker to stoop using that term, but i guess it is relative to your question, i will answer it, but cannot understand however, why you never get warned for personal attacks, and ranting, i am led to believe that you are an ALT of Junker; but in this context i am answering your question.

From the dictionary;

Charlatan;

a person falsely claiming to have a special knowledge or skill.”

synonyms:   quack, mountebank, sham, fraud, fake, humbug, impostor, pretender, masquerader, hoodwinker, hoaxer, cheat, deceiver, dissembler, double-dealer, double-crosser, trickster, confidence trickster, cheater, swindler, fraudster, racketeer.

Which is pretty much an apt description of him, in my OPINION.
If your OPINION of him was that he was a doctor, without any proof, then MY OPINION of him is the term I used. I never anywhere said that he was not a flat earth believer. He may have believed in a flat earth, but certainly he claimed to have a special knowledge about the earth being flat, when all the empirical evidence points to it being round, so yes i think my Opinion is correct.

Which gets us knowhere. I agreed to stop using the term to avoid arguments and bans, and would hoped you would do the same, but it looks like you have a get out of jail free card, and are able to use whatever language you wish. It’s like tying to debate and being only allowed a 1/4 of the dictionary.

Anyway on to the topic;
I am exploring the “proofs” provided in EnaG and was hoping for a rational discussion, other than  “He was true, you are wrong.” That does not add anything to the discussion at all.
Exploring why someone is wrong is not disrespectful. Again i refer you to his preface that i copied, and you copied.

As for providing evidence that experiments in EnaG are flawed, I am pretty certain I did. The pictures of the magnetic field around a bar magnet and the picture provided in ENAG along with his assertion that the needle points directly to the pole are evidence that his statement is incorrect, and therefore flawed at 1st principles.
This then can be taken (in the same way he uses the argument) that the “earth cannot be plane so must be global”.

I see yourself have not advanced any theories yourself other than EnaG proves xxxx or yyyy.

When you can back up your slavish beliefs of dodgy annecdotal experiments heavily reliant on 3rd party accounts taken from articles written in journals or magazines, with modern day observations and accurate measurements i will take you more seriously.

As for Tom Bishops statements i will address that in another post.
No, I don't cherry pick what Dr Rowbotham says, I've been very fair to people here. You, on the other hand, are different. You personally disrespect the memory of Dr Rowbotham and post 'experiments' which are nothing more than a post on a forum. That's not an experiment, it's a message board post.

And it's also outrageous how you imply he's a charlatan. Now I've called you out you backtrack and say it's your opinion, which is still incorrect. You say he's not a Dr, yet can provide no proof whatsoever to back up those claims. We can at least point to his grave, what have you got? Oh yeah, he didn't go to uni in Germany or America. Because as we know, all doctors in those days went to Germany and America, none of them qualified domestically  ::)

And nowhere in his book does he claim to have 'special knowledge'. That's a claim you've simply made up right now.

If you simply disagreed with him, that's fine. But constantly calling him charlatan is not respectful.

The evidence in his book was logically sound and the facts are irrefutable. Earth is not a globe.

I can see that you've not proved anything, and instead spouted out what amounts to

"Charlatan Rowbotham was wrong, I've sailed around the world (apparently) so I am right"

The articles he mentioned were referred to, his outright experiments did not rely on newspaper sources. You'd know this if you read his book properly. You have yet to prove him wrong.

Perhaps you should get out of the armchair, rethink your slavish beliefs, and maybe, just maybe, you'll start to think for yourself. The evidence points to earth being flat, though I doubt it. You are so blinkered in your views that nothing whatsoever would sway you. We could take to to space and show you the earth being flat and you still wouldn't believe.

There are none so blind as those who cannot see.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: On a globe Earth the horizon should not curve
« on: April 13, 2018, 03:57:36 AM »
Now I understand what you are saying.

Yes, the airport is built on higher land a couple of miles away. The Nile only falls a foot.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: On a globe Earth the horizon should not curve
« on: April 12, 2018, 09:54:28 PM »
Not sure how it's not contributing. All I was asked is why Luxor airport is higher in elevation. Logic would dictate it was built on higher land.
Well yeah. That's the point. And the Nile flows nearby and isn't in a massive ditch. So clearly the Nile doesn't just drop 1 foot along its whole length.
Glad we've finally agreed that.
Confused here. Are you saying the Nile flows through Luxor airport?

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Dr Rowbotham already conducted an experiment to determine the true distance of the sun. A 2D map does not prove a round earth I'm afraid.

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