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« Reply #7840 on: December 23, 2020, 08:37:11 PM »
The Gateway Pundit seems to be basing their story entirely on an account from Steve Bannon, and another guy talking about it on YouTube isn't any more convincing. Where was this officially recorded as actually having happened? I'm looking for the official record, not a YouTube talking head.
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« Reply #7841 on: December 23, 2020, 08:47:09 PM »
The report from the Georgia State Senate Judiciary Committee that they are looking at is right here: http://www.senatorligon.com/THE_FINAL%20REPORT.PDF

Maybe do some research before claiming that multiple sources are lying.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7842 on: December 23, 2020, 08:47:38 PM »

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« Reply #7843 on: December 23, 2020, 08:48:19 PM »
The report from the Georgia State Senate Judiciary that they are looking at is right here: http://www.senatorligon.com/THE_FINAL%20REPORT.PDF

Maybe do some research before claiming that multiple sources are lying.

You must be taking argumentation lessons from Giuliani. Honk never said anyone was lying. But you didn’t show where the official record of the GA judiciary committee is either.

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« Reply #7844 on: December 23, 2020, 08:49:16 PM »
The report from the Georgia State Senate Judiciary that they are looking at is right here: http://www.senatorligon.com/THE_FINAL%20REPORT.PDF

Maybe do some research before claiming that multiple sources are lying.

You must be taking argumentation lessons from Giuliani. Honk never said anyone was lying.

Either they are lying or telling the truth. We know that they tell the truth now.

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« Reply #7845 on: December 23, 2020, 08:55:50 PM »
Nope. It happened. The Georgia State Senate Judiciary committee recommended the decertification of the electors in Georgia.

J-Man posted a second source on the topic.
Yes. A second source which he has consistently referenced over the last month and has consistently been unreliable.

And even if “it” happened, what is the significance? You have spent the last month getting excited about one thing or another - probably because you’re being fed nonsense from YouTube channels like this.

Remember how you said it was a good thing they kept losing in the lower courts because it gave Trump a route to the SCOTUS?

Remember how excited you got about Texas taking the case to the SCOTUS? You excitedly chuckled about how many other States joined. People kept trying to tell you it was going nowhere but you kept citing cherry picked  “experts” who backed up your views.
How did that go?

How long are you going to keep flailing around like this?
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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« Reply #7846 on: December 23, 2020, 09:06:28 PM »
The report from the Georgia State Senate Judiciary that they are looking at is right here: http://www.senatorligon.com/THE_FINAL%20REPORT.PDF

Maybe do some research before claiming that multiple sources are lying.

You must be taking argumentation lessons from Giuliani. Honk never said anyone was lying.

Either they are lying or telling the truth. We know that they tell the truth now.

Who is they?

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« Reply #7847 on: December 23, 2020, 09:19:27 PM »
I guess they don't want you to know the truth. The Georgia State Senate Judiciary committee is officially recommending the decertification of the electors in Georgia.

I went through that dude's YouTube channel. This are the titles of a selection of his videos in chronological order

2nd Nov Far Left FREAKS OUT as GOP SURGES and Trump Approval SKYROCKETS!!!
3rd Nov LAST MINUTE PANIC! Biden Campaign GIVES UP on FLORIDA and PENNSYLVANIA!!!
6th Nov Why Trump Will TRIUMPH in PA and WIN the ELECTION!!!
9th Nov The COMEBACK BEGINS as President Trump Goes on the OFFENSIVE!!!
10th Nov ‘WE WILL WIN’ as Coming REVELATIONS May SHOCK THE WORLD!!!
12th Nov BREAKING! Pennsylvania Court RULES for TRUMP! BALLOTS THROWN OUT!!!
13th Nov MI and PA on VERGE of FLIPPING to TRUMP as Pundit Warns ‘Things are About to EXPLODE’!!!
16th Nov Lawyers Predict ELECTION Will Be OVERTURNED! Evidence Will SHOCK the Nation!!!
17th Nov STUNNING EVIDENCE May OVERTURN Election as NV TOSSES 153K Ballots and Trump Gains in GA!!!
19th Nov TRUMP RELEASES THE KRAKEN! ‘We Are Taking Our Country BACK’!!!
23rd Nov CNN PANICS as Vote Certification in PA and MI in DOUBT!!!
24th Nov Trump Scores HUGE WINS in MI and PA as Feckless Republicans Certify FRAUDULENT Votes!!!
24th Nov HUGE! Georgia ORDERS Ballot Audit as Sidney Powell RELEASES THE KRAKEN!!!
30th Nov HUGE Win for Trump as Judge Orders Dominion Voting Machines in Georgia IMPOUNDED!!!
1st Dec BOMBSHELL Hearings in Michigan as Trump Drops MEGATON Lawsuit on Wisconsin!!!
2nd Dec KRAKEN RELEASED! STOP THE STEAL Rally in Georgia AWAKENS a Populist GIANT!!!
3rd Dec IT’S HAPPENING! Trump’s LEGAL TEAM Is Beginning to CLOSE IN on the DEMOCRATS!!!
4th Dec GA Governor Orders BALLOT AUDIT after SHOCKING VIDEO EVIDENCE of FRAUD Emerges!!!
8th Dec Texas Drops BOMBSHELL Lawsuit Challenging ELECTION as Congress Rejects Biden as President-Elect!!!
9th Dec THIS IS THE BIG ONE! The Supreme Court Will DETERMINE the FATE of the 2020 ELECTION!!!
10th Dec BREAKING! Pennsylvania Will JOIN Texas Lawsuit AGAINST Pennsylvania! This is HUGE!!!
14th Dec BREAKING! Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Nevada Electors VOTE FOR TRUMP!!!

Do I need to explain why you continuing to believe people like this is a little silly?
The one on the 9th Dec is my favourite. Remember you were getting all excited about the SCOTUS case? So was he



Hasn't aged well, has it?
Quote from the video "This is the End all, Be All case. This is it. It's going to decide it all"
Hilariously, after the SCOTUS told them to stop wasting their time he did another video explaining why it's not all over, despite him saying in that video that it was the "End all, Be all" case which was "going to decide it all".

TL;DR - you continue to watch and believe sources which tell you what you want to hear no matter how demonstrably wrong they have repeatedly been in the past.

Little too much time on your hands? or Soros pays your crew well here. Look anyone who has an IQ above 75 knows this election was fraudulent to throw crumbs to the needy hand out peeps. More votes for dems=billions printed for the elite demons to run amuck on flat earth till Jesus returns and toast them. Speaking of toast, hows that crow coming along?
What kind of person would devote endless hours posting scientific facts trying to correct the few retards who believe in the FE? I slay shitty little demons.

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« Reply #7848 on: December 23, 2020, 09:28:54 PM »
J-Man. Explain why the Presidential election was “stolen” but the Senate one - where the Republicans actually did pretty well - was not.
Why steal one part and the completely hobble yourself by losing ground in the Senate thus limiting the effect a Democrat President can actually have.
They were on the same ballots so why not rig both parts?
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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« Reply #7849 on: December 23, 2020, 09:30:13 PM »
They gained seats in Congress too.

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« Reply #7850 on: December 23, 2020, 09:56:55 PM »
Nope. It happened. The Georgia State Senate Judiciary committee recommended the decertification of the electors in Georgia.

J-Man posted a second source on the topic.

Arizona is now going to Trump too.  They are all coming to Trump, the Fraud is blatant and real. Trump won by a landslide...yippie

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-rudy-giuliani-drops-bomb-war-room-says-arizona-lawmakers-will-vote-wednesday-certify-president-trump-winner/

Add Georgia Add Wisconsin Penn coming with Mich...ha ha

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/georgia-judiciary-committee-votes-election-fraud-report-says-enough-evidence-decertify-vote-joe-biden/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/will-wisconsin-republicans-reassign-current-wisconsin-electoral-college-votes-trump-judge-rules-200000-biden-votes-illegitimate/

And their rationale + power to do so is?  Because last I checked, a judiciary committee has 0 power to affect the election results or decertify anything.
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« Reply #7851 on: December 23, 2020, 11:47:19 PM »
The report from the Georgia State Senate Judiciary that they are looking at is right here: http://www.senatorligon.com/THE_FINAL%20REPORT.PDF
Maybe do some research before claiming that multiple sources are lying.
You must be taking argumentation lessons from Giuliani. Honk never said anyone was lying.
Either they are lying or telling the truth. We know that they tell the truth now.

The closing statement of this report says it was "submitted". To whom?
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« Reply #7852 on: December 24, 2020, 12:37:31 AM »
Nope. It happened. The Georgia State Senate Judiciary committee recommended the decertification of the electors in Georgia.

Do you think that's going to actually convince the General Assembly to decertify the electors? Or will it be another bombshell that has no effect on the election? Surely you have thoughts on this.
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« Reply #7853 on: December 24, 2020, 01:19:27 AM »
I don’t think decertifying electors, when they followed the certification process and performed ample due diligence to ensure the integrity of the election is even a thing that’s possible.

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« Reply #7854 on: December 24, 2020, 01:27:01 AM »
From the little research I've done I'm pretty sure it's possible, but it's super obviously not gonna happen because the Committee's report was so full of nothing lol. Which is why I really want Tom's answer on whether he thinks this big ol' pile of empty space is going to sway the General Assembly whatsoever, because I genuinely think he knows it won't. Seriously, I recommending reading through this and looking into any given evidence raised:

http://www.senatorligon.com/THE_FINAL%20REPORT.PDF
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« Reply #7855 on: December 24, 2020, 08:14:18 AM »
Right. And this is the exact point.
People hang on the every word of this YouTube channel which keeps on posting videos with titles including the words “HUGE!!!” or “BOMBSHELL!!!”.

And it’s not that everything the videos say is untrue, it’s just that they’re not significant.

Yes, Texas did go to the Supreme Court. Yes, a lot of other States did go #MeToo. But it wasn’t HUGE. It wasn’t a BOMBSHELL. Plenty of people tried to tell Tom that it was going nowhere. But no, his cherry picked “expert” said what he wanted to hear and that was good enough for him. And how did that turn out?

Surely at some point people have to realise that this dude is full of shit. Biden is President Elect, within a month he will be President. That’s what is happening in the real world. Living in a fantasy world and pretending it’s not happening isn’t going to change that.
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« Reply #7856 on: December 24, 2020, 09:15:41 AM »
What I can't understand is that if I were a Repub, I'd have my eyes solely on the prize: Enough of withering away any sense of Democracy, decorum, and servitude, and feeding the ego of one man, I'd focus on getting my Georgia Senators seated and keep that house.
Then focus on the mid-terms and try and capture that Rep house and thwart any Democrat agenda.

Why all this completely embarrassing machinations around Trump is such a sideshow and only diminishes the Repub brand. I mean really, like anyone with half a brain cell takes kraken Sydney and weeping hair dye stains Guiliani seriously? Forget about that.

The strategy is the long con, not this, "the election was stolen" ridiculousness.

Maybe the Repubs think that trying to subvert an election is a good look. Mindboggling. I see no logic in any of what's been going on since the 3rd. Maybe this is why Mitch acknowledged Biden as President Elect because he sees the bigger picture and wants to take it all back in two years.

The Repubs need to get on a united message and stop with the frivolous Bishop antics of, "Oh yeah, the next date in the process, that's where we overturn a free election..." on and on and on. First it was the certifications by the States. Then the electoral college votes. Now the 6th in congress...Finally the 20th at high noon...

Small minds will keep having sideshow events in front of landscaping businesses next to porn stores. I mean come on, pathetic at best. Embarrassing at worst. The World is watching and I'm ashamed at what they have seen.

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« Reply #7857 on: December 24, 2020, 09:41:01 AM »
What I can't understand is that if I were a Repub, I'd have my eyes solely on the prize: Enough of withering away any sense of Democracy, decorum, and servitude, and feeding the ego of one man, I'd focus on getting my Georgia Senators seated and keep that house.
Then focus on the mid-terms and try and capture that Rep house and thwart any Democrat agenda.

Why all this completely embarrassing machinations around Trump is such a sideshow and only diminishes the Repub brand. I mean really, like anyone with half a brain cell takes kraken Sydney and weeping hair dye stains Guiliani seriously? Forget about that.

The strategy is the long con, not this, "the election was stolen" ridiculousness.

Maybe the Repubs think that trying to subvert an election is a good look. Mindboggling. I see no logic in any of what's been going on since the 3rd. Maybe this is why Mitch acknowledged Biden as President Elect because he sees the bigger picture and wants to take it all back in two years.

The Repubs need to get on a united message and stop with the frivolous Bishop antics of, "Oh yeah, the next date in the process, that's where we overturn a free election..." on and on and on. First it was the certifications by the States. Then the electoral college votes. Now the 6th in congress...Finally the 20th at high noon...

Small minds will keep having sideshow events in front of landscaping businesses next to porn stores. I mean come on, pathetic at best. Embarrassing at worst. The World is watching and I'm ashamed at what they have seen.

I understand why they are.  A large part (75%) of their voters think the election was rigged for Biden.  That he cheated.  If they don't make a show of trying, that 75% will turn on them and what happens is almost always revolution.

Imagine if 40% of Americs decided that both parties were evil and needed to be stopped?  Especially since most of those 40% have guns.  Lots of guns.

So yeah.  Best case: Trump Party crushes Republican party and it makes the Tea Party look like liberals.  At worse: Revolution.
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« Reply #7858 on: December 24, 2020, 10:21:29 AM »
I understand why they are.  A large part (75%) of their voters think the election was rigged for Biden.  That he cheated.  If they don't make a show of trying, that 75% will turn on them and what happens is almost always revolution.

They only believe that because Trump keeps saying it. He has an almost cult-like following who hang on his every word. It's really weird, I don't think I've seen a political leader like it before.

If Trump was a grown up and magnanimously accepted the election result (you know, like every other candidate does - with the possible exception of Gore but that election was genuinely close and he did in the end concede the point when the SCOTUS ruled against him) then they would too, or most of them. And this is where what Trump's doing is dangerous. Usually the concession speech is where the defeated candidate "stands down" their supporters and urges them to get behind the new President. Sure, it's not the person they wanted but they're going to be the President anyway so you might as well root for them. That hasn't happened so it leaves the country more divided than ever and you have a significant percentage of the population who now believe the election has been stolen from them and "their guy" is the rightful President. No amount of failed law suits, debunked "evidence" or Republicans conceding the point will sway them, as Tom is showing.
So when Republicans call Trump's bullshit out they become "RINO"s, and this is how it works. All Republicans know it was stolen. Not that guy? Well, he's obviously not a real Republican then.
It's pretty dangerous stuff.
And let's be clear - Trump is not doing this because he really believes he won. Part of him probably does because he's a narcissist who cannot bear the thought that he lost an election. But part of him definitely knows he lost and is simply doing this to raise money to pay off campaign debt or to position himself for another run in 2024 or whatever else he has planned after this. It's sad how many people are falling for it and don't care what damage it's doing to the country.
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« Reply #7859 on: December 24, 2020, 12:12:38 PM »
I understand why they are.  A large part (75%) of their voters think the election was rigged for Biden.  That he cheated.  If they don't make a show of trying, that 75% will turn on them and what happens is almost always revolution.

They only believe that because Trump keeps saying it. He has an almost cult-like following who hang on his every word. It's really weird, I don't think I've seen a political leader like it before.

If Trump was a grown up and magnanimously accepted the election result (you know, like every other candidate does - with the possible exception of Gore but that election was genuinely close and he did in the end concede the point when the SCOTUS ruled against him) then they would too, or most of them. And this is where what Trump's doing is dangerous. Usually the concession speech is where the defeated candidate "stands down" their supporters and urges them to get behind the new President. Sure, it's not the person they wanted but they're going to be the President anyway so you might as well root for them. That hasn't happened so it leaves the country more divided than ever and you have a significant percentage of the population who now believe the election has been stolen from them and "their guy" is the rightful President. No amount of failed law suits, debunked "evidence" or Republicans conceding the point will sway them, as Tom is showing.
So when Republicans call Trump's bullshit out they become "RINO"s, and this is how it works. All Republicans know it was stolen. Not that guy? Well, he's obviously not a real Republican then.
It's pretty dangerous stuff.
And let's be clear - Trump is not doing this because he really believes he won. Part of him probably does because he's a narcissist who cannot bear the thought that he lost an election. But part of him definitely knows he lost and is simply doing this to raise money to pay off campaign debt or to position himself for another run in 2024 or whatever else he has planned after this. It's sad how many people are falling for it and don't care what damage it's doing to the country.

I am aware as to why they believe it and this shit happens when countries go through revolutions.  Ceasar, Nepoleon, Lenin, Hitler, Mussilini, Saddam, the Ayatola, Kim Jong Yung(?).

And Republicans are doing their best to not be on the chopping block when the revolution hits.
The conviction will get overturned on appeal.