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1341
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 29, 2022, 06:40:41 PM »
Well, you are here writing about it.

I thought you would have already known that.

I know who is legally able to submit it.  Just curious if you do.

So what do you call people, who claim to be electors from state representatives, who are not on the official certificate signed by the legally responsible person?
I would call that fake news.

Do you have some evidence electors made it to any official certificate?

1342
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 29, 2022, 05:35:36 PM »
Just curious.. how would YOU define a fake elector if you claiming to be an elector when you aren't doesn't make you a fake elector.
There is no such thing as a "fake," elector.

There is such a thing as an elector that is not recognized.
So what you're saying is that if I claim to be an elector, with forged documentation, I'm not a fake elector?  If I blackmail the appointed elector and take his place, that's not fake?  If no fake elector can exist, then that means that anyone who is recognized as an elector by anyone is automatically an elector.

Therefore, I appoint you,  Action80, an elector.  I recognize you as such.
What "forged documentation?"

The documentation is what it is.

As an elector, you become recognized by the body in charge of recognizing the electors.

The official documentation, signed by the governor, of which electors are selected for the state, of course.
Oh, so the governor is signing the slate, not Trump.

?? Have I said otherwise?
Trump can't appoint electors.  Or verify them.  Or sign the Certificate of Ascertainment.
Oh, kinda shoots the foot of the story of the DOJ investigating Trump in any involvement.

Why?
Are you saying that one can't be involved in a crime unless one is there, physically doing the crime?
No, I am writing that proposing or submitting any slate of electors is perfectly legal.

There is no crime of fake electors.

It is all fake news.

Who submits them?
Well, you are here writing about it.

I thought you would have already known that.

1343
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 29, 2022, 05:32:14 PM »
No, I am writing that proposing or submitting any slate of electors is perfectly legal.

There is no crime of fake electors.

It is all fake news.

They are investigating Obstructing an official proceeding.  Being purposely obtuse is so weak.  You should really be brave enough to deal with the actual news and not just disagreeing to own the libs.
The proceeding includes the process of recognizing electors.

Electors are submitted and then either recognized or not recognized.

No proceeding was obstructed.

Now you are miraculously claiming that someone doing their required job is an obstruction of the process!

LOL!!!

Being purposefully obtuse is indeed very weak and you should stop.

1344
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 29, 2022, 11:21:36 AM »
Just curious.. how would YOU define a fake elector if you claiming to be an elector when you aren't doesn't make you a fake elector.
There is no such thing as a "fake," elector.

There is such a thing as an elector that is not recognized.
So what you're saying is that if I claim to be an elector, with forged documentation, I'm not a fake elector?  If I blackmail the appointed elector and take his place, that's not fake?  If no fake elector can exist, then that means that anyone who is recognized as an elector by anyone is automatically an elector.

Therefore, I appoint you,  Action80, an elector.  I recognize you as such.
What "forged documentation?"

The documentation is what it is.

As an elector, you become recognized by the body in charge of recognizing the electors.

The official documentation, signed by the governor, of which electors are selected for the state, of course.
Oh, so the governor is signing the slate, not Trump.

?? Have I said otherwise?
Trump can't appoint electors.  Or verify them.  Or sign the Certificate of Ascertainment.
Oh, kinda shoots the foot of the story of the DOJ investigating Trump in any involvement.

Why?
Are you saying that one can't be involved in a crime unless one is there, physically doing the crime?
No, I am writing that proposing or submitting any slate of electors is perfectly legal.

There is no crime of fake electors.

It is all fake news.

1345
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 29, 2022, 07:33:08 AM »
Just curious.. how would YOU define a fake elector if you claiming to be an elector when you aren't doesn't make you a fake elector.
There is no such thing as a "fake," elector.

There is such a thing as an elector that is not recognized.
So what you're saying is that if I claim to be an elector, with forged documentation, I'm not a fake elector?  If I blackmail the appointed elector and take his place, that's not fake?  If no fake elector can exist, then that means that anyone who is recognized as an elector by anyone is automatically an elector.

Therefore, I appoint you,  Action80, an elector.  I recognize you as such.
What "forged documentation?"

The documentation is what it is.

As an elector, you become recognized by the body in charge of recognizing the electors.

The official documentation, signed by the governor, of which electors are selected for the state, of course.
Oh, so the governor is signing the slate, not Trump.

?? Have I said otherwise?
Trump can't appoint electors.  Or verify them.  Or sign the Certificate of Ascertainment.
Oh, kinda shoots the foot of the story of the DOJ investigating Trump in any involvement.

1346
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 28, 2022, 07:58:27 PM »
Just curious.. how would YOU define a fake elector if you claiming to be an elector when you aren't doesn't make you a fake elector.
There is no such thing as a "fake," elector.

There is such a thing as an elector that is not recognized.
So what you're saying is that if I claim to be an elector, with forged documentation, I'm not a fake elector?  If I blackmail the appointed elector and take his place, that's not fake?  If no fake elector can exist, then that means that anyone who is recognized as an elector by anyone is automatically an elector.

Therefore, I appoint you,  Action80, an elector.  I recognize you as such.
What "forged documentation?"

The documentation is what it is.

As an elector, you become recognized by the body in charge of recognizing the electors.

The official documentation, signed by the governor, of which electors are selected for the state, of course.
Oh, so the governor is signing the slate, not Trump.

1347
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 28, 2022, 12:15:07 PM »
Just curious.. how would YOU define a fake elector if you claiming to be an elector when you aren't doesn't make you a fake elector.
There is no such thing as a "fake," elector.

There is such a thing as an elector that is not recognized.
So what you're saying is that if I claim to be an elector, with forged documentation, I'm not a fake elector?  If I blackmail the appointed elector and take his place, that's not fake?  If no fake elector can exist, then that means that anyone who is recognized as an elector by anyone is automatically an elector.

Therefore, I appoint you,  Action80, an elector.  I recognize you as such.
What "forged documentation?"

The documentation is what it is.

As an elector, you become recognized by the body in charge of recognizing the electors.

1348
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: July 28, 2022, 03:43:14 AM »
Reagan was a converted Democrat, but in the vein of JFK, and was subsequently shot for trying to make things right in the country. Courtesy of Czar Bush the I.

Nixon was a career criminal fraudster who didn't care about such things as supposed party affiliation.

1349
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 28, 2022, 03:38:35 AM »
There is no such thing as a "fake," elector.

In emails reviewed by The New York Times and authenticated by people who had worked with the Trump campaign at the time, one lawyer involved in the detailed discussions repeatedly used the word “fake” to refer to the so-called electors, who were intended to provide Vice President Mike Pence and Mr. Trump’s allies in Congress a rationale for derailing the congressional process of certifying the outcome. And lawyers working on the proposal made clear they knew that the pro-Trump electors they were putting forward might not hold up to legal scrutiny.

“We would just be sending in ‘fake’ electoral votes to Pence so that ‘someone’ in Congress can make an objection when they start counting votes, and start arguing that the ‘fake’ votes should be counted,” Jack Wilenchik, a Phoenix-based lawyer who helped organize the pro-Trump electors in Arizona, wrote in a Dec. 8, 2020, email to Boris Epshteyn, a strategic adviser for the Trump campaign.

In a follow-up email, Mr. Wilenchik wrote that “‘alternative’ votes is probably a better term than ‘fake’ votes,” adding a smiley face emoji.

Yeah, thanks for proving my point.

Somebody called them fake.

Yes, the attorney called them fake because that's what they were, fake.
The attorney calling them fake makes no difference nor does it make them fake.

It does make for a cool story though.

He could've called them flying monkeys and that would've been just as legitimate.

The reporting you provide demonstrates that quite clearly.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 27, 2022, 07:47:59 PM »
And I accepted your insult.

I never insulted you.
Okay, telling someone they are pretending to be an idiot is not an insult.

Gotcha.

1351
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: July 27, 2022, 07:35:20 PM »
Bananas don't kill people.
People kill people.
Abortionists who just ate a banana kill people.

Really good that you edited your comment, it is now super hilarious.
Always seeking improvement in all areas.

Thanks for the compliment!

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/07/26/1111280165/because-of-texas-abortion-law-her-wanted-pregnancy-became-a-medical-nightmare

Even before Roe v Wade being struck down, TXs abortion bounty law had terrible consequences.
That incident has more to do with malpractice than Roe v. Wade.

So you think they should have aborted the fetus?
No.

I do not believe in abortion.

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Similar to when the time my son was born, there was huge hoopla in the media over the issue of unnecessary C-Sections being performed.

As a result, my son, who was going through obvious stress during the delivery (heart rate ranging from 40 all the way up to 220) was not delivered via C-Section and ended up with severe mental retardation due to the lack of adequate oxygen for over an hour of labor.

The obstetrician even had the gall to come in, asking me if I thought a C-Section was in order. I am not a doctor.

Another gift of democratic legislators promoting such laws during the time of the mid to late 80's.

And you can spare the spiel about Republicans being in charge then, as nearly all the Republicans at the time were in fact former Democrats: aka, RINO's.

Only RINOs when they do something you disagree with, I guess. The Party is perfect.
Why write "I guess."

Of course.

You, as well I, know there is no Republican party anymore.

Hasn't been since Goldwater.

You just like typing the word cause you think its cool and it's part of your job.

1352
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 27, 2022, 07:30:45 PM »
Someone in the thread needs to pretend to be an idiot.

That would be me.

As opposed to the natural state of others.

You should refrain from personal attacks. We’d hate for you to get banned again.
Yeah, we know you won't be banned for calling me a "pretend idiot," right?

I said you were pretending to be an idiot, meaning that you aren’t an idiot just you know, pretending to be one.
And I accepted your insult.

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The incumbent trying to defraud the election process is nothing to you. Glad to hear it.
Wait, now you're claiming fraud?

LOL!!!

Ohmegerd!
Is english your second language?
[/quote]

Careful now. There isn’t anything wrong with English not being someone’s native tongue.
[/quote]
Of course.

I was just asking because what you wrote doesn't resemble English at all.

1353
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 27, 2022, 07:09:00 PM »
There is no such thing as a "fake," elector.

In emails reviewed by The New York Times and authenticated by people who had worked with the Trump campaign at the time, one lawyer involved in the detailed discussions repeatedly used the word “fake” to refer to the so-called electors, who were intended to provide Vice President Mike Pence and Mr. Trump’s allies in Congress a rationale for derailing the congressional process of certifying the outcome. And lawyers working on the proposal made clear they knew that the pro-Trump electors they were putting forward might not hold up to legal scrutiny.

“We would just be sending in ‘fake’ electoral votes to Pence so that ‘someone’ in Congress can make an objection when they start counting votes, and start arguing that the ‘fake’ votes should be counted,” Jack Wilenchik, a Phoenix-based lawyer who helped organize the pro-Trump electors in Arizona, wrote in a Dec. 8, 2020, email to Boris Epshteyn, a strategic adviser for the Trump campaign.

In a follow-up email, Mr. Wilenchik wrote that “‘alternative’ votes is probably a better term than ‘fake’ votes,” adding a smiley face emoji.

Yeah, thanks for proving my point.

Somebody called them fake.

1354
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 27, 2022, 07:06:12 PM »
Someone in the thread needs to pretend to be an idiot.

That would be me.

As opposed to the natural state of others.

You should refrain from personal attacks. We’d hate for you to get banned again.
Yeah, we know you won't be banned for calling me a "pretend idiot," right?

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The incumbent trying to defraud the election process is nothing to you. Glad to hear it.
Wait, now you're claiming fraud?

LOL!!!

Ohmegerd!
Is english your second language?

1355
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: July 27, 2022, 07:04:29 PM »
Bananas don't kill people.
People kill people.
Abortionists who just ate a banana kill people.

Really good that you edited your comment, it is now super hilarious.
Always seeking improvement in all areas.

Thanks for the compliment!

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/07/26/1111280165/because-of-texas-abortion-law-her-wanted-pregnancy-became-a-medical-nightmare

Even before Roe v Wade being struck down, TXs abortion bounty law had terrible consequences.
That incident has more to do with malpractice than Roe v. Wade.

Similar to when the time my son was born, there was huge hoopla in the media over the issue of unnecessary C-Sections being performed.

As a result, my son, who was going through obvious stress during the delivery (heart rate ranging from 40 all the way up to 220) was not delivered via C-Section and ended up with severe mental retardation due to the lack of adequate oxygen for over an hour of labor.

The obstetrician even had the gall to come in, asking me if I thought a C-Section was in order. I am not a doctor.

Another gift of democratic legislators promoting such laws during the time of the mid to late 80's.

And you can spare the spiel about Republicans being in charge then, as nearly all the Republicans at the time were in fact former Democrats: aka, RINO's.

1356
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 27, 2022, 06:51:55 PM »
Just curious.. how would YOU define a fake elector if you claiming to be an elector when you aren't doesn't make you a fake elector.
There is no such thing as a "fake," elector.

There is such a thing as an elector that is not recognized.
Trump is officially under criminal investigation by the DOJ for trying to create fake electors and steal the 2020 election.  Its a very neat self-fulfilling prophecy.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-justice-department-probing-trumps-efforts-overturn-election-wash-post-2022-07-27/
Define "fake electors."
 
Why?  That's the legislature's job.  Look it up, meat puppet.
The legislature does define fake electors.

Post appearance.

You cannot cook up fake electors prior to appearance.

Thanks for the fake news, sock puppet.

Are you claiming the DOJ is not investigating Trump for attempting to appoint fake electors?
Why do you think I am claiming that?

Because you said I was spreading fake news when I was talking about the DOJ investigation. If that wasn’t fake news then you are tilting at windmills.
It is fake news.

There is no such thing as a fake elector.

It’s incredible that you have to pretend to be an idiot to try and own the libs.
Someone in the thread needs to pretend to be an idiot.

That would be me.

As opposed to the natural state of others.
The incumbent trying to defraud the election process is nothing to you. Glad to hear it.
Wait, now you're claiming fraud?

LOL!!!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 27, 2022, 06:16:01 PM »
Trump is officially under criminal investigation by the DOJ for trying to create fake electors and steal the 2020 election.  Its a very neat self-fulfilling prophecy.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-justice-department-probing-trumps-efforts-overturn-election-wash-post-2022-07-27/
Define "fake electors."
 
Why?  That's the legislature's job.  Look it up, meat puppet.
The legislature does define fake electors.

Post appearance.

You cannot cook up fake electors prior to appearance.

Thanks for the fake news, sock puppet.

Are you claiming the DOJ is not investigating Trump for attempting to appoint fake electors?
Why do you think I am claiming that?

I can go to the Capitol and claim I am an elector.

Anyone can appoint electors.

It doesn't mean they will be recognized.

Just because they are not recognized, doesn't mean they are fake.

So, it is another nothing burger story designed to fill idle space.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 27, 2022, 03:58:54 PM »
Trump is officially under criminal investigation by the DOJ for trying to create fake electors and steal the 2020 election.  Its a very neat self-fulfilling prophecy.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-justice-department-probing-trumps-efforts-overturn-election-wash-post-2022-07-27/
Define "fake electors."
 
Why?  That's the legislature's job.  Look it up, meat puppet.
The legislature does define fake electors.

Post appearance.

You cannot cook up fake electors prior to appearance.

Thanks for the fake news, sock puppet.

1359
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: July 27, 2022, 03:57:36 PM »
Bananas don't kill people.
People kill people.
Abortionists who just ate a banana kill people.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: July 27, 2022, 02:08:43 PM »
As if there are gun dealers who currently sell weapons without serial numbers.
As if ghost guns are hard to come by.
https://ghostguns.com/
Every single item for sale on this website has a serial number attached to it.

As a matter of fact, every single item for sale in the US by any licensed retailer has a serial number associated with it.

Like Bananas.
How do you think bananas are checked out at grocers? There is a serial number or scan scode attached to the item.

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