Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #441 on: December 14, 2020, 08:59:30 PM »
Wrong.



Looks like you’ve backed another winner

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/04/russell-james-ramsland-jr/affidavit-michigan-lawsuit-seeking-overturn-electi/

Yep, Ramsland is right up there with the Kracken's 'Spyder', a "cyber security expert" who turned out to be an Army motor pool mechanic. One who Powell referred to as a "Military Intelligence Expert" in affidavits, no less. 
At a certain point this is all just laughably embarrassing if it weren't for the sole purpose of this nonsense to undermine democracy at its core.

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #442 on: December 14, 2020, 09:34:23 PM »
The Lungmen were here...   but not anymore.


Round Earther patiently looking for a better deal...

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #443 on: December 14, 2020, 09:57:25 PM »
Are the people who say that the forensic report is wrong forensic auditors?

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #444 on: December 14, 2020, 09:59:26 PM »
Are the people who say that the forensic report is wrong forensic auditors?

Are the people who say the forensic report is right forensic auditors?

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #445 on: December 14, 2020, 10:03:39 PM »
Are the people who say that the forensic report is wrong forensic auditors?

Are the people who say the forensic report is right forensic auditors?

Yep. They hired a forensic auditing company.

https://www.depernolaw.com/uploads/2/7/0/2/27029178/antrim_michigan_forensics_report_[121320]_v2_[redacted].pdf

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I am part of the management team of Allied Security Operations Group, LLC,
(ASOG). ASOG is a group of globally engaged professionals who come from
various disciplines to include Department of Defense, Secret Service,
Department of Homeland Security, and the Central Intelligence Agency. It
provides a range of security services, but has a particular emphasis on
cybersecurity, open source investigation and penetration testing of networks. We
employ a wide variety of cyber and cyber forensic analysts. We have patents
pending in a variety of applications from novel network security applications to
SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition) protection and safe browsing
solutions for the dark and deep web. For this report, I have relied on these
experts and resources.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #446 on: December 14, 2020, 10:08:18 PM »

Yep. They hired a forensic auditing company.


People who write report agree with their own conclusions.  Brilliant.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #447 on: December 14, 2020, 10:12:00 PM »
Are the people who say that the forensic report is wrong forensic auditors?

Are the people who say the forensic report is right forensic auditors?

Yep. They hired a forensic auditing company.

https://www.depernolaw.com/uploads/2/7/0/2/27029178/antrim_michigan_forensics_report_[121320]_v2_[redacted].pdf

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I am part of the management team of Allied Security Operations Group, LLC,
(ASOG). ASOG is a group of globally engaged professionals who come from
various disciplines to include Department of Defense, Secret Service,
Department of Homeland Security, and the Central Intelligence Agency. It
provides a range of security services, but has a particular emphasis on
cybersecurity, open source investigation and penetration testing of networks. We
employ a wide variety of cyber and cyber forensic analysts. We have patents
pending in a variety of applications from novel network security applications to
SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition) protection and safe browsing
solutions for the dark and deep web. For this report, I have relied on these
experts and resources.

Yeah, that's Ramsland's "company". There's no there there. There is zero information about anyone using ASOG for anything and it looks like it just came into being July of this year. Garbage.

Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #448 on: December 14, 2020, 10:13:07 PM »
Are the people who say that the forensic report is wrong forensic auditors?
The person who says the forensic report is right has a history of cherry picking who they believe and how much regard they have for people’s qualifications depending on whether what’s being said agrees with their world view or not.

This person has already been thoroughly debunked.

But ok, if this is the horse you want to jump on now then fine. You’ve spent the last month pinning your hopes on all kinds of nonsense like this.
Meanwhile back in the real world the electoral college are voting for Joe Biden to be the next President as we speak.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #449 on: December 14, 2020, 10:25:38 PM »
Are the people who say that the forensic report is wrong forensic auditors?
The person who says the forensic report is right has a history of cherry picking who they believe and how much regard they have for people’s qualifications depending on whether what’s being said agrees with their world view or not.

So that's a "no, they are not forensic auditors" then.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2020, 11:50:05 PM by Tom Bishop »

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #450 on: December 14, 2020, 10:26:45 PM »
From which university or college, Tom, would you accept a forensic auditing qualification? I might want to check the qualifications of those who are claimed here to be forensic auditors and those who are decried as not being so.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #451 on: December 14, 2020, 10:27:03 PM »
Are the people who say that the forensic report is wrong forensic auditors?
The person who says the forensic report is right has a history of cherry picking who they believe and how much regard they have for people’s qualifications depending on whether what’s being said agrees with their world view or not.

So that's a "no, they are not forensic auditors" then.

Neither is Ramsland.

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #452 on: December 14, 2020, 10:33:56 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/electoral-college-vote-2020-biden-trump/index.html?tab=all

The Electoral College has voted for President-Elect Biden.

Here is how Trump can still win.
Th*rk is the worst person on this website.

Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #453 on: December 14, 2020, 10:34:18 PM »
Neither is Ramsland.
He’s whatever Tom wants him to be if he’s saying what Tom wants to hear.

Tom may allow himself a moment of self-awareness at this point and consider that all the other people whose “expertise” Tom has got excited about over the last month have proved to be full of shit. But I doubt it.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #454 on: December 14, 2020, 10:39:47 PM »
Are the people who say that the forensic report is wrong forensic auditors?
The person who says the forensic report is right has a history of cherry picking who they believe and how much regard they have for people’s qualifications depending on whether what’s being said agrees with their world view or not.

So that's a "no, they are not forensic auditors" then.

Neither is Ramsland.

Does he say that he performed the audit himself, or does he say in the intro "For this report, I have relied on these experts and resources"?

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #455 on: December 14, 2020, 10:44:32 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/electoral-college-vote-2020-biden-trump/index.html?tab=all

The Electoral College has voted for President-Elect Biden.

Trump lost the EC vote in every state in which he contested the result. Per @MeidasTouch on Twitter
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #456 on: December 14, 2020, 10:49:02 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/electoral-college-vote-2020-biden-trump/index.html?tab=all

The Electoral College has voted for President-Elect Biden.

Trump lost the EC vote in every state in which he contested the result. Per @MeidasTouch on Twitter
Wait. They didn’t stop the EC vote after Tom found a definitely valid report from someone which has cracked this whole thing wide open?
How strange.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #457 on: December 14, 2020, 10:52:35 PM »
Are the people who say that the forensic report is wrong forensic auditors?
The person who says the forensic report is right has a history of cherry picking who they believe and how much regard they have for people’s qualifications depending on whether what’s being said agrees with their world view or not.

So that's a "no, they are not forensic auditors" then.

Neither is Ramsland.

Does he say that he performed the audit himself, or does he say in the intro "For this report, I have relied on these experts and resources"?

Tom.  As many conservatives said in 2016: he won.  Get over it and get behind your president.
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #458 on: December 14, 2020, 11:07:24 PM »
Are the people who say that the forensic report is wrong forensic auditors?
The person who says the forensic report is right has a history of cherry picking who they believe and how much regard they have for people’s qualifications depending on whether what’s being said agrees with their world view or not.

So that's a "no, they are not forensic auditors" then.

Neither is Ramsland.

Does he say that he performed the audit himself, or does he say in the intro "For this report, I have relied on these experts and resources"?

And who might those experts and resources be? Spyder?

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #459 on: December 16, 2020, 05:52:32 PM »
And who might those experts and resources be? Spyder?

They are experts which were accepted and appointed by the court to be experts. Sounds like denial.