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There'd be more money in the kitty if the taxpayer didn't have to fork out for all these pesky brutality settlements ...

"US police continue to kill three people a day, with 2021 the deadliest year on record, making America a leader in law enforcement violence.

The persistent killings as well as stories of police abuse of Black people in spite of reforms has led to growing mainstream interest in a different response – the fight to defund, dismantle and abolish police. In their new book  ... 

Less than 5% of the 10 million arrests each year are for incidents classified as “violent crime”. Police typically arrive after harm has occurred and solve 20-25% of “serious crimes”. "

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 26, 2022, 09:05:41 PM »
specifically identified Trump’s goal to release the information publicly. ...  He also said, “Trump declassified whole sets of materials in anticipation of leaving government that he thought the American public should have the right to read themselves.”

.. but Trump claimed the FBI planted documents during the search.

He declassified a bunch of documents before the FBI planted them? Really?

We might be better able to offer an opinion on any of the incidents you're referring to if you posted a link to the footage in question, or even just to a news article talking about what happened.

A trio of officers repeatedly punching an unarmed man, with one of the officers grabbing his head and repeatedly slamming it onto a concrete sidewalk;

Officers punching lady with mental health problem

Patrick Lyoya shot in the back of the head, with officer on his back pinning him down

One in three people killed by US police were running away from traffic stops or other inconsequential matters.

In the last couple of days, I've seen video of the off-duty officer who pinned down a child for supposedly stealing somone's bike (he was moving it to get at his own);

A trio of officers repeatedly punching an unarmed man, with one of the officers grabbing his head and repeatedly slamming it onto a concrete sidewalk;

And a pair of officers repeatedly punching a lady who was experiencing a mental health episode.

In the last month or so, there was the officer who shot Patrick Lyoya in the back of the head, and a host of other instances where unarmed citizens were shot in the back merely for running away.

Seriously out of control

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 11, 2022, 05:03:25 PM »
Many US cities and towns are massively overfunding their police forces. I'll post stats later, but when you look at some of them, the city or town budget is basically a police force that does some other incidental stuff.

Spend elsewhere to keep the populace happy, housed and fed, and you have less need for the police force. Take money away from police (defund them) and if you spend it in the right places elsewhere, you won't notice the defunding.

Example; Uvalde. 40% of the budget on police, and look where it got them ...

Check out the graph halfway down the page

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 11, 2022, 02:02:31 PM »
Yes, as it turns out, people who say "defund the police" are universally people who are at the wrong end of the law.

Well that's completely untrue.  Defund the police as a slogan came from people who were fed up with excessive violence propagated by the police.  That's not being on the wrong end of the law, it's being in the out-group police neither serve nor protect.

This. It came on the back of the killing of George Floyd, the cover-up surrounding the Amhoud Arbery killing, and a whole host of other instances where police over-escalation and violence led to injury or death for innocent parties.

The homeless guy in the wheelchair who lost an eye from a baton round, the journalists who similarly suffered.

The elderly pushed over onto concrete, then ignored by Buffalo police.

The innocent cyclist crossing the road who was picked on by NY police because he happened to be passing by.


Flat Earth Theory / Re: Moon landing hoax question
« on: July 20, 2022, 08:46:33 PM »
We just saw 238,000? miles with naked eye, beetchez

Dunno about you, but I just watched a video. Does the term SFX hold any meaning for you?

Is it no longer possible for governments to be tyrannical?

It is, and probably will be if the Repugnicans get control. 

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: July 06, 2022, 05:30:57 PM »
Tom, you don't find any .... contradiction, say, between the FRC's mission statement and vision?

Vision Statement:
Family Research Council's vision is a prevailing culture in which all human life is valued, families flourish, and religious liberty thrives.
Mission of Organization:
Family Research Council's mission is to advance faith, family, and freedom in public policy and the culture from a biblical worldview.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 06, 2022, 08:36:51 AM »
Yes, the tweet clearly states that it is at the 571 (517 according to the above, not 571 - T) mark. The graph shows that his popularity has been dropping to the point that he is now the most unpopular president at this point in his presidency in recorded US History.

His net approval has been higher than Trump's for around 490 days out of those 517, though. So on balance, he has greater approval than Trump. 

Scroll down to the graphs with the sliders -

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 05, 2022, 09:01:10 AM »
Although this is clearly biased, a more detailed timeline is here, with the video in bold:

WHY is it "clearly biased" ?

So Trump waited around to tell the protestors to leave, but Joe Biden didn't wait around to call for it to end?

Which one of them was Commander-in-Chief at the time, and which was not? Biden was merely President-elect at the time, wasn't he? Who was the actual President?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: July 04, 2022, 02:58:09 PM »

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 04, 2022, 02:52:54 PM »
the Republicans are focused on the threat from drag queens.

In the UK, we've had drag acts on stage and on TV for decades, without society collapsing in a heap.

Every year, theatres up and down the country stage Christmas pantomime, which routinely includes at least one male performer in drag as the "pantomime dame".

Danny La Rue, Stanley Baxter, Dick Emery, Les Dawson and a host of others were regulars on prime-time Saturday night TV, often appearing in drag.

Harmless fun.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 04, 2022, 09:45:07 AM »
He didn't stop them.

When they entered the building he told them to go home:

Oh, puh-leeze.

You don't think everyone can examine the timeline of when the rioters were breaking in, and when Trump spoke? Really?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 03, 2022, 09:04:32 AM »
Trump must've been riding in the front seat to pull off this one.

There's video. He wasn't.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 02, 2022, 04:51:08 PM »
Oh, you have seen the footage...BWAHAHA!!!

It's on Twitter. Want a link?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 02, 2022, 10:04:14 AM »
The hearsay is being confirmed by multiple sources within Secret Service, by footage of Trump in the vehicle.

He could have got out and walked there by himself, couldn't he? Oh, no, I forgot; he can't walk that far, and needs a golf cart to get around.

And like I said earlier, if the facts are in dispute, he can volunteer to testify, under oath, to set the record straight, can't he?

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