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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Comprehensive explanation for sunsets
« on: October 01, 2022, 06:30:37 PM »
You have stuff on YouTube? Where?

Told you already in a previous thread. PM me for links. Last time I posted them in threads, Pete slapped me down for "spamming" my own channel

PM me, and I'll link you.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Comprehensive explanation for sunsets
« on: October 01, 2022, 07:44:53 AM »
I am not going to engage in any of your research projects.
To my mind, the next step would be for you to engage with my "project", and demonstrate how the "atmoplane" has affected it. But you won't. Vague hints in the direction of "mirages" do not make for a sound basis.
What project? You have no project.

I never claimed to have something named as a project. I invited you to examine my observations and conclusions, all on YouTube (here and in other threads), and you declined, referring to this here as my "research project". I put it in quotes because I was quoting you. You were the first to refer to me having a "project".

Again, I invite you to view my observations and conclusions, and indicate what I should be looking for in terms of these "atmoplane" effects that would have any significant effect on either.

If you're not going to engage in review of my work, and you refuse to engage with others, and you provide no observations, projects or experimentation of your own, then ... why are you here?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Comprehensive explanation for sunsets
« on: September 30, 2022, 09:35:42 AM »
I am not going to engage in any of your research projects.

My time is too valuable to surrender for free.

Yes, I have a basis for stating the atmoplane is a variable affecting the appearance of objects to individual viewers located at various distances from the object(s) in question.

I am relatively confident you and everyone else has heard of mirages, for instance.

To my mind, the next step would be for you to engage with my "project", and demonstrate how the "atmoplane" has affected it. But you won't. Vague hints in the direction of "mirages" do not make for a sound basis.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Comprehensive explanation for sunsets
« on: September 29, 2022, 01:11:22 PM »
Not surprisingly, the OP reveals itself to be another case of RE stomping their collective feet, outrageously demanding an explanation from FE for something they claim to have already analyzed in depth.

I did not claim that. Your question was, paraphrased "Have you accounted for atmospheric variables?", directed toward McToon. I've fielded the same question in the past, with regard to my own observations, phrased in different ways. My response is always to ask - "How do you suggest I do that?", and after that, everything goes silent. 

Do you have any method for accounting for the things that you say McToon (and possibly I) should be accounting for?

If you don't, do you have any basis for suggesting that they have any effect, at all, on the observation?  I want to know if my eyes and camera are misleading me, so tell me what I should be looking for.   

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Comprehensive explanation for sunsets
« on: September 28, 2022, 02:04:15 PM »
How did you account for air quality variables between yourself and the sun during your period of observation?

Can you suggest a method or methods for doing this?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: September 25, 2022, 10:18:09 PM »
Why aren't you asking the others why they were "obsessed" with Biden's lavatorial functions?
Because it's just one person, and he's completely unhinged. Not worth anyone's time.

Well, unfortunately that implies you think I'm "worth the time", but if you want to take the attitude that I'm not, and simply walk on by when you see my name, that's fine with me.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: September 25, 2022, 03:25:20 PM »
People's obsession with Trump's dump truck of an arse is peak politics

Wouldn't have mentioned without the previous posts. Why aren't you asking the others why they were "obsessed" with Biden's lavatorial functions?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: September 24, 2022, 05:50:14 PM »
So sad this country is being run by Bidens handlers. Where's the potty? my diapers are soaked


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: September 24, 2022, 08:27:45 AM »
It's really sad how you guys would rather twist lines out of context and deliberately misinterpret them rather than argue in good faith and criticize Biden for his actual faults and weaknesses.

The good things that he's doing outweigh any minor gaffes and mis-speaks. To borrow a self-help book title from years back - "Don't sweat the small stuff". 

The alternative at the moment is fluctuating between Trump and de Santis, which to my mind is a wholly unacceptable alternative.   

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 23, 2022, 10:52:02 AM »
Since Trump and lawyers have suggested that the FBI may have planted some docs, Special Master has given them until a week today to provide sworn statements as to which documents they allege were not seized from Mar a Lago; i.e. those which they claim were planted.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 23, 2022, 07:33:15 AM »
If Trump declassified them by thinking about it, I'm sure Biden has been keeping up to speed with the case, and has thought about re-classifying them all already.

So they are all classified again now. Prove me wrong.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 21, 2022, 06:12:30 PM »

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: ISS Photo From The Ground
« on: September 21, 2022, 04:35:17 PM »
photo shop BS

How did you establish that?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Queen
« on: September 20, 2022, 06:14:03 PM »
So Biden was in the back because he didn't have a good relationship with the Queen and he deserved to be in the back. That was the premise of the post you are trying to argue against.

No, he was in the back because he is not in any of the following categories; family and close personal friends of the Queen; UK and Commonwealth heads of state and dignitaries.

It was a funeral, not a political assembly. You wouldn't even have mentioned it had Trump not posted about it. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Queen
« on: September 20, 2022, 06:05:28 PM »
being put in the back has nothing to do with Trump, only Joe Biden.

... but you introduced the topic with Trump's post bemoaning the fact, so ... it's suddenly nothing to do with Trump, because ... you say so?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 20, 2022, 09:00:53 AM »
Tom, are you one of Trump's rally crowd?

Were you one of those giving a stylised Nazi salute at the most recent?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Queen
« on: September 20, 2022, 08:30:39 AM »
At the Queen's funeral Joe Biden was made to sit towards the back

...with the front occupied by those related to the Queen, and with close connections to the Queen. As is standard practice for a funeral over here. Cannot imagine it being any different in the US.


No former president was invited. This is also irrelevant to the fact that Joe Biden was made to sit near the back.

That's great. So you agree Trump is a former President. Not the current President. He lost the 2020 election.

Yes, that's what happens when you visit someone else's country, at their invitation. You go where they tell you to go. You don't get to make your own rules, and decide where you sit. You're an invited guest.

This is embarassing for Joe Biden, though, to be made to sit towards the back in a room of world leaders. His being put in the back has nothing to do with Trump, only Joe Biden.

Are you REALLY trying to equate being placed behind the Queen's own family and friends, at her funeral, as being some form of "pecking order" slight or insult toward Biden, something which you can use to paint him as inferior to other world leaders?

It wasn't a "room" in the sense of a conference room or meeting space. It's an abbey.

Do you think this would be appropriate behaviour at a funeral ....?


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 14, 2022, 01:47:05 PM »
The FBI recently seized the Pillow Guy's phone.

I'm not surprised.

Can you imagine working for MyPillow and watching the owner drag the whole company's reputation and sales prospects down like that?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: September 14, 2022, 01:32:28 PM »
And as far as the ship video is concerned, how large a wake do you propose a cruise ship would make?

It will only make a wake to the rear of the ship, with a bow wave spreading out from the sides, always behind the bow.

So, in the video above, where one ship goes away, the other approaches the camera, the second one will have no wake between it and the camera or observer.

Let's do the long hotel corridor, then;

The corridor is 12 ft high from floor to ceiling. You, the observer, are 6ft 4ins tall, so your eyes are at exactly 6 feet above the floor, and 6 ft below the ceiling.

Let's ignore what's happening in the far distance for the moment. Yes, the ceiling, floor and walls APPEAR to converge to a point, but we all know the corridor does not get narrower or shallower.

Do you agree that the floor is, at all points, below your eye level? Eye level is parallel to the floor, at 6 ft above it, so you must be looking downward when you look at the floor, right?

Do you agree that if you look at a point on the floor some 20 ft away, your line of sight to that point, from 6 ft above the floor, passes through a level of 5 ft, 4, 3, 2, 1, 6 inches, down to zero?

It's a straight line of sight, isn't it? No refraction, fog, or other atmospherics to distort it? It doesn't curve upward, then back down to reach the floor. You're looking straight at the floor. Right?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: September 14, 2022, 01:24:50 PM »
So far photographing objects in the distance are beginning to look unreliable as to whether its physical in nature or a refracted image.

Leaving waves and perspective aside, its clear that sometimes depending on the weather ships and other objects will sink beneath the horizon or in front of it as is the case with the Nat Geo experiment.
 Objects will also remain level with the horizon or even float above it as is the case with "Superior Mirages"

That's fine. Just disregard all photos where the ship "appears to be floating", then. There's plenty more evidence available where they do not appear to be so.

I refer you back to my photo and the video I cited above. Does it look a like any of the ships or islands are floating?

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