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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: September 14, 2022, 01:32:28 PM »
And as far as the ship video is concerned, how large a wake do you propose a cruise ship would make?

It will only make a wake to the rear of the ship, with a bow wave spreading out from the sides, always behind the bow.

So, in the video above, where one ship goes away, the other approaches the camera, the second one will have no wake between it and the camera or observer.

Let's do the long hotel corridor, then;

The corridor is 12 ft high from floor to ceiling. You, the observer, are 6ft 4ins tall, so your eyes are at exactly 6 feet above the floor, and 6 ft below the ceiling.

Let's ignore what's happening in the far distance for the moment. Yes, the ceiling, floor and walls APPEAR to converge to a point, but we all know the corridor does not get narrower or shallower.

Do you agree that the floor is, at all points, below your eye level? Eye level is parallel to the floor, at 6 ft above it, so you must be looking downward when you look at the floor, right?

Do you agree that if you look at a point on the floor some 20 ft away, your line of sight to that point, from 6 ft above the floor, passes through a level of 5 ft, 4, 3, 2, 1, 6 inches, down to zero?

It's a straight line of sight, isn't it? No refraction, fog, or other atmospherics to distort it? It doesn't curve upward, then back down to reach the floor. You're looking straight at the floor. Right?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: September 14, 2022, 01:24:50 PM »
So far photographing objects in the distance are beginning to look unreliable as to whether its physical in nature or a refracted image.

Leaving waves and perspective aside, its clear that sometimes depending on the weather ships and other objects will sink beneath the horizon or in front of it as is the case with the Nat Geo experiment.
 Objects will also remain level with the horizon or even float above it as is the case with "Superior Mirages"

That's fine. Just disregard all photos where the ship "appears to be floating", then. There's plenty more evidence available where they do not appear to be so.

I refer you back to my photo and the video I cited above. Does it look a like any of the ships or islands are floating?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: September 14, 2022, 01:20:49 PM »
So, you are just making a broad claim about an issue with no actual visual.

I provided you with a photo taken by myself and a video by another YouTuber.

What is there about these that leads you to say "no actual visual"? 

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: September 14, 2022, 08:08:50 AM »
Maybe I missed the picture.  Got one?



It doesn't need to be a ship, either. Can do the same with lighthouses and islands. YouTuber Flatsa's video below shows the same geometric proof of Not Flat that my own video does. I won't post a link to my own, else Pete will slap me down for "spamming" my own. But here's his; the first minute or so shows that the seas around are Not Flat. See the comments at that video for my explanation.




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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Queen
« on: September 13, 2022, 02:35:33 PM »
In solidarity of the Queen's passing the NHS has canceled thousands of surgeries and doctor's appointments that people have waited months to get.

What happened on the day of (say) JFK's funeral? Did the USA proceed as normal, or were many things cancelled?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: September 13, 2022, 01:14:20 PM »
The waves and swells do not need to be 100 feet to commence obscuring portions of the ship that would be visible to an observer from shore.

.. but, as I said in my opening line of reply #22 - "you don't actually NEED to see the ship go over the horizon to see that the sea is Not Flat."

I'm not talking about anything obscuring the ship. I'm talking about the situation where the observer, at a height of 100m, observes the ship of 52m, and should, if the sea is flat, see clear water behind and beyond the topmost point of the ship, but does not. Indicating the sea cannot be flat.

With the observer at 100m, every sightline to the water is a downward one, and must pass through every height between 0 and 100 on the way. 90, 80, 70, down to zero, including 52m

If the ship is 52m high, and the observer looks down from 100m, the continuation of the sightline to 52m must continue to zero. IF the sea is flat.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Britain's Pedo Prince
« on: September 13, 2022, 07:52:45 AM »
Prince Andrew was allowed to attend the procession, although without his military uniform. He walked around with his medals pinned to his suit blazer, suffering heckling and public embarrassment.

Frankly, that's a reflection on the heckler, not the Prince.  A funeral cortege is not the place for shouting out your grievances.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: September 13, 2022, 07:49:46 AM »
I have no idea why any of you want to claim anyone here has written or claimed seas are flat. Seas are well noted for possessing waves and swells, frequently exceeding heights of 100 feet.

100 feet is approximately 30 metres.

When observing a ship of 52 metres, I think I can clearly see that the "waves and swells" are not reaching 60% of the height of the ship .....

I'm not asserting "anyone here" has written or claimed it in writing. But it's a common claim amongst other flat-earthers, and don't you think it's implied in the overall terminology?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Queen
« on: September 12, 2022, 09:11:54 PM »
Public admission to the Queen at rest in St Giles, Edinburgh, commenced earlier this (Monday) evening. By some estimates, there are 20,000 people queued three times around one of Edinburgh's public parks, and their numbers will be filing past overnight, all through the night, until sometime tomorrow afternoon.

I predict there'll be a lot of people joining the tail end, only to be turned away sometime tomorrow

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: September 12, 2022, 09:07:57 PM »
The thing is, you don't actually NEED to see the ship go over the horizon to see that the sea is Not Flat.

If it were, any sightline to the surface, from any height above the surface, would form a right-angle triangle, and from there, school-level geometry rules apply.

If I look out from 100m elevation to a ship of height 52m, I have a downward sightline. All sightlines from 100m to zero pass through the 52m level. Conversely, a sightline from 100 through 52 must meet the surface at zero. It cannot miss it.

Any situation where I'm looking out from 100m to a ship of 52m air draught (height above waterline) and do not see water behind and beyond the top of the ship shows the seas cannot be flat. 

Previous starting point - https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=19213.0

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: September 12, 2022, 06:13:58 PM »
...  the farther away you are from objects, especially those at ground or water level, the less likely you are to see them. Imperfections in the surface and atmoplane being what they are.

Which has no bearing at all on observations wherein we can clearly see the objects which disprove the geometry of flat seas.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 12, 2022, 06:08:29 PM »
You are simply wrong that the lawyers aren't being selected based on their specific experience. The new lawyers were added based on their experience:

Trump seems to select lawyers and judges by whether or not they look good on TV.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: September 11, 2022, 01:25:40 PM »
Seems like NG just came along to film it, and weren't responsible for protocol or method

https://cfiig.org/earth-curvature-test/


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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: September 08, 2022, 05:06:21 PM »
Why don't you conduct a similar experiment which conclusively proves your point of view, then?

Make it a nice, clear view, with no "compression", so that there's no doubt your point is proved. 

I've already been out and done mine. The seas around East Scotland, at least, are Not Flat.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: September 07, 2022, 01:31:30 PM »
you missed the raid on Barrons bedroom?

Is there a valid reason that any room in MaL should have been excluded from the scope of the search warrant?

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so that people don't have to wonder whether you've made shit up every time you claim to have seen something.

Nobody "wonders" that. Not even you.

If anyone apart from you does, just leave them to tell me.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 03, 2022, 01:27:19 PM »
According to the leftist narrative this is over the 100th time Trump was supposed to have been sentenced to years of prison since 2016. Every couple of weeks there has been a declaration by the left that Trump is done for. How about you stop embarrassing yourselves and only post again when it actually happens.


According to Trump's own soshul meediyah posts, he's all but confessed. He claimed the FBI "took the documents out of the boxes" to photograph them on his office floor.

So he agrees he had classified material, in document boxes, unsecured, in his office in a non-Governmental building.

His lawyers add to his misery by saying "that's not how his office looks. It's a lot tidier than that, because he has guests coming in and out regularly". So the office where the documents were, has unsecured access to general public without security clearance or monitoring.

All quotes paraphrased from memory.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: September 03, 2022, 01:21:32 PM »
Grid can't and will never handle electric vehicles.

Change the focus from the car, then.  Pedestrianise city centres. Introduce cycle paths. Build more railways. Get out of your cars and walk some more.

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Citizen hospitalised over (another) trivial matter


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 01, 2022, 09:52:00 PM »
So when Trump said that the FBI planted confidential documents he's now arguing they didn't?

It's got worse. They found classified docs in one of the desks in his office, along with his passports, and other classified docs in storage boxes along with other miscellaneous stuff.

Trump's OWN STATEMENT on Twuth Sowshul admits that he had the classified docs, which he was not supposed to have, in the document boxes in his office; he actually protests at the FBI making a mess in his office, by taking the classified stuff OUT OF THE BOXES to lay it out on the carpet. That's a confession that they WERE in the boxes, at the time of the FBI visit, despite his attorneys' previous sworn affadavit that ALL documents requested by NARA had been removed from Mar-a-Lago. 

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