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FE as a cultural phenomenon.
« on: May 18, 2017, 10:50:18 AM »
This thread is directed at the local FE's and RE's who inhabit this forum.

Where do you think FE will be in twelve months?
I'm assuming this forum will still be here, but it may be a very crowded house.
This could be bigger than the sixties peace movement.
Its morphing into a tsunami online, every one who can write "Yo Mama" is posting a video.

Look, I'm a true believer, I admit I'm pretty ignorant, but never the less.
And that's why I'm asking the question, where will we be in 12 mths.

« Last Edit: May 18, 2017, 10:52:24 AM by Dither »
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Re: FE as a cultural phenomenon.
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2017, 02:29:36 PM »

Mmm, not quite the same as the hippies, they wanted a change of direction to a slower, greener evolution, and drugs (lots of drugs).

FE is dragging us back to before the enlightenment, they are like creation scientists, trawling the edges of knowledge, looking for grey areas and controversy so they can say “hey this bit doesn’t work, therefore my personal theory that shooting stars are falling suns, must be right”.

YouTube is the worst thing to happen for the gullible, the dim, the paranoid and the badly educated as they can’t sort the chaff, so they go for the shiny, scary and loud.

On a personal level I hope it stays roughly the same, would be nice if the better elements from the other site came here, spice things up a bit, Oh and more drugs.
Just to be clear, you are all terrific, but everything you say is exactly what a moron would say.

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Re: FE as a cultural phenomenon.
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2017, 05:22:01 PM »
I don't think it's going to affect the real, working world a bit.
They are not about going to scrap all their charts and maps in favor of a "flat earth map."
First place, there are no "flat earth maps."
The question "how about this website ?"    I wouldn't venture a guess. Time will tell.
All of the members of the so-called "conspiracy" will just go about their business as usual.

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Re: FE as a cultural phenomenon.
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2017, 05:25:19 PM »
I don't think it's going to affect the real, working world a bit.
It already has (and you know it, too!), so you can throw that guess out of the window ;)
Read the FAQ before asking your question - chances are we already addressed it.
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Re: FE as a cultural phenomenon.
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2017, 06:38:25 PM »
I don't think it's going to affect the real, working world a bit.
It already has (and you know it, too!), so you can throw that guess out of the window ;)
How has it affected the real working world?  Planes still fly great circle routes, ships don't sail off the edge, people still study astrophysics, satellites still relay calls and show weather.
Do you have a citation for this sweeping generalisation?

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Re: FE as a cultural phenomenon.
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2017, 07:34:02 PM »
Planes still fly great circle routes, ships don't sail off the edge, people still study astrophysics, satellites still relay calls and show weather.
*yawn*
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Re: FE as a cultural phenomenon.
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2017, 11:48:38 PM »
I don't think it's going to affect the real, working world a bit.
It already has (and you know it, too!), so you can throw that guess out of the window ;)
How has it affected the real working world?  Planes still fly great circle routes, ships don't sail off the edge, people still study astrophysics, satellites still relay calls and show weather.

I haven't heard of any affect to the Astronomical Observatories , NASA, USN or the FAA in the USA.

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Re: FE as a cultural phenomenon.
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2017, 09:31:53 PM »
Here they come everyone, hopefully they will stay,
The advantage with this forum is that you don't get your head torn off here.
So if your reading this and your new (like me) please interact.

And while your here, don't forget to visit the gift shop for some FET tee Shirts.
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Re: FE as a cultural phenomenon.
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2017, 09:06:42 PM »
Just bringing this thread back for roundy, the last one was spammed.

And since I posted this there has been a moderate increase in traffic but nothing like I thought would happen.

Flat Earth for myself is a bit like getting into a band before they are famous, then after they make their breakthrough album say, "Oh but their early stuff was heaps better." Only problem is, I came in with the breakthrough album and I haven't listened to much of the early stuff.
 
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Re: FE as a cultural phenomenon.
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2017, 09:23:17 PM »

And since I posted this there has been a moderate increase in traffic but nothing like I thought would happen.
 

Hey Dither.  :) Maybe those who join are, like me, people who struggle to understand why anyone would think the earth was flat, the frustration is that Tom seems to stop answering just at the crucial point in the debate thus the chance if converts is low. I have read and asked, had a few answers and digested those but at the crux the responses stop. Another convert lost :-(

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Re: FE as a cultural phenomenon.
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2017, 07:44:47 AM »
Maybe those who join are, like me, people who struggle to understand why anyone would think the earth was flat,

Yes there are those types,

But there are also those who are FEers and the Roundies attack them and they run away and move to other places where people share their views. (As you do, we are only human after all) I came from the other flat earth forum which was way too aggressive for my tender sensibilities, but I was already convinced beforehand anyway.

This forum is well moderated and most of the Roundies on here are a little nicer to deal with.
But both forums are great IMO because they give you real world reactions and whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. 
   
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Re: FE as a cultural phenomenon.
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2017, 09:09:38 PM »
I'm a roundy, but I share FE ideas at lunch with my co-workers.  Everybody LOVES it.  I make all the FE arguments as best I can and am the designated Flat Earth information resource.  It is all fun, but nobody actually believes the Earth is not a globe.  For me the flat-earth movement is all about that.

I believe that 6 month from the original post, and 6 months from now, the Flat Earth movement will be exactly what it is today;
An interesting, shallow thought experiment that is fun to discuss with friends.
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Re: FE as a cultural phenomenon.
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2017, 10:20:14 PM »
I'm a roundy, but I share FE ideas at lunch with my co-workers.  Everybody LOVES it.  I make all the FE arguments as best I can and am the designated Flat Earth information resource.  It is all fun, but nobody actually believes the Earth is not a globe.  For me the flat-earth movement is all about that.

I believe that 6 month from the original post, and 6 months from now, the Flat Earth movement will be exactly what it is today;
An interesting, shallow thought experiment that is fun to discuss with friends.

It is definitely an interesting mental challenge to build a construction of ideas that could make the FE world work - but honestly, it's futile.  It can't be done.   It's not just that FE theories can be disproved - it's that problems of the topology of Flat Earth maps (things like the Quadrilateral Of Cities thing) make it entirely impossible for ANY FE theory to work.  Not just this one or that one...ALL of them.
Hey Tom:  What path do the photons take from the physical location of the sun to my eye at sunset?

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Re: FE as a cultural phenomenon.
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2017, 07:25:51 PM »
I'm a roundy, but I share FE ideas at lunch with my co-workers.  Everybody LOVES it.  I make all the FE arguments as best I can and am the designated Flat Earth information resource.  It is all fun, but nobody actually believes the Earth is not a globe.  For me the flat-earth movement is all about that.

I believe that 6 month from the original post, and 6 months from now, the Flat Earth movement will be exactly what it is today;
An interesting, shallow thought experiment that is fun to discuss with friends.

I personally don't know any FE'ers but my best friend does.   He describes the man as delusional with an argument for everything until he gets backed into a corner with logic.  Then he just claims everyone is brainwashed.   LOL

Interestingly enough he is the reason I found this place.  I really thought it was a joke until I read the great Tom Bishop and all his wisdom.  Now I am a true believer.  Not in FE but that there are some nutty ideas and a lot of believers.  Facts be damned.

Do you have a citation for this sweeping generalisation?