[Lord Dave]

^ LD - "Trump is at fault for what these people are thinking."

LMMFAO!!! You can't make this shit up! But LD tries his very, fucking best.

He kinda is, yeah.  He certainly tells you what to think.

Tho in this case, I haven't blamed him since as far as I know he hasn't spread that fake news.  But you didn't read my short post so I guess you wouldn't have known that.The fact I posted this in the Trump thread is not to be taken as guilt by association.

FTFY.

It really isn't since we dump all sorts of news about trump supporters and conservatives in general here.

^According to LD, all the people having doubts about FEMA are conservative.

Doubts? No, treatening FEMA workers.  Big difference.

Ah...I see...do you not find it interesting the article you provided listed exactly ZERO evidence of any threats other than a statement from unnamed sources from the US Forest Service "reportedly claiming," these threats were made?

I call bullshit.

I don't, actually.
See, if someone threatens you, unless its via text or email (or regular paper) its generally unrecorded with no evidence. For example, if I were to walk up to you on the street and say "I'm gona fucking kill you, you fasist piece of shit!" then walk away... you have no evidence I said anything.

[Action80]

I am glad you agree there is no evidence in support of the bs you posted.

[Lord Dave]

I am glad you agree there is no evidence in support of the bs you posted.

Yeah, just reports of it.  No hard evidence.


Well, except the guy they arrested.
https://cardinalpine.com/2024/10/15/nc-man-is-arrested-for-threatening-fema-officials-after-trump-spent-weeks-lying-about-them/

[Action80]

I am glad you agree there is no evidence in support of the bs you posted.

Yeah, just reports of it.  No hard evidence.


Well, except the guy they arrested.
https://cardinalpine.com/2024/10/15/nc-man-is-arrested-for-threatening-fema-officials-after-trump-spent-weeks-lying-about-them/

I see...Seems like a sure-fire case to me, amirite?

jeezuschrist, the amount of bs you promote is truly amazing.

How long have you been a huckster?

[AATW]

Surely yesterday's events kill off any prospect of him running in 2024. Maybe as an independent but surely the Republicans wouldn't touch him again?

Follow me for more betting tips and future predictions

[Tom Bishop]

Another great thing about Trump is that his policy announcement videos look like video game cut scenes from a hyper-conservative American dictatorship. This video is basically a dystopian announcement to any left-leaning woke who sympathizes with gender affirming care for children.

https://twitter.com/notPBD/status/1855109055074779251

[Lord Dave]

Another great thing about Trump is that his policy announcement videos look like video game cut scenes from a hyper-conservative American dictatorship. This video is basically a dystopian announcement to any left-leaning woke who sympathizes with gender affirming care for children.

https://twitter.com/notPBD/status/1855109055074779251

He's gonna have to define mutilation because that does include circumcisions.  It's genitalia mutilation of children.  I'm all for banning it but the Jews may not be so happy.

Of course, congress and the house need to pass the bill first.


Hopefully this isn't gonna be a slippery slope of ensuring trans people are not allowed to exist anymore.  You know, like the government telling adults what they can't put into their bodies.

[garygreen]

imagine being so pathetically afraid of seeing a man in a dress that you have to manufacture a narrative about children being in danger, even though it is many orders of magnitude more likely for a child to be abused by a parent/teacher/clergy than to even so much as hear the words "gender-affirming care" at any point growing up.

but y'all are the "fuck facts, i'm scared of my own shadow" party, so go for it, i guess.

[Tom Bishop]

Hopefully this isn't gonna be a slippery slope of ensuring trans people are not allowed to exist anymore

Considering that trans children are a new phenomena which is coddled and promoted solely by the left, it's not clear that children should be allowed to be trans. Historically, trans children have not been a thing.

Today's trans children are really gay children with homophobic parents and teachers. See this video:

[Dr Van Nostrand]

About one and half percent of people on earth are born genetically, morphological and biologically 'intersex'.

Despite the conservative story of two genders, these people do exist and in some cases want surgical and hormonal therapies.

Where are people like Actio80 supposed to get these therapies?

[honk]

Trans people are only a new phenomenon insofar as anyone in years past who exhibited trans behaviors would have been dismissed as either a lunatic or a pervert. You might as well question why there aren't more openly gay people or people with mental illnesses throughout history. These concepts weren't understood by previous generations, and so they were entirely overlooked.

[Dr Van Nostrand]

Trans people are only a new phenomenon insofar as anyone in years past who exhibited trans behaviors would have been dismissed as either a lunatic or a pervert. You might as well question why there aren't more openly gay people or people with mental illnesses throughout history. These concepts weren't understood by previous generations, and so they were entirely overlooked.

Actually, in Iran, they have no gay people. The Ayatollah explains that they have no actual homosexuals. They, of course, have people who suffer from various mental illnesses, which they treat medically and compassionately. But there are no gay people.

[Tom Bishop]

If it were natural for children to be trans you would be able to cite cases of it in human history. We can find plenty of gay acceptance in ancient civilizations, so this claim that people were always too biased for it by everyone everywhere is clearly nonsense.

[garygreen]

you can say basically the same thing about penicillin, the internet, and indoor plumbing. none of those things were around for most of human history, but *spoiler alert* that doesn't have anything to do with anything unless "new thing bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111" is really your political philosophy.

and even if it the case that being trans is literally completely new to the 21st century (lmao please for the love of god read one fucking history book someday, i'm begging you), that doesn't really have anything to do with the fact that it's morally wrong to use the state to police gender identity.

[Lord Dave]

It's kinda weird seeing the same "government should stay outta private lives and how I raise my kids" people say "Government should be included in our lives and tell people how to raise their kids!"

[Tom Bishop]

you can say basically the same thing about penicillin, the internet, and indoor plumbing. none of those things were around for most of human history, but *spoiler alert* that doesn't have anything to do with anything unless "new thing bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111" is really your political philosophy.

Those are examples of things that are not natural.

You are basically admitting that trans children are unatural to humanity. If you are arguing that woke leftists brainwashing gay children to be trans might be a good thing because the internet and penicillin was a good thing, then wow.

[Pete Svarrior]

We can find plenty of gay acceptance in ancient civilizations

I mean, there's a good amount of acceptance for various forms of gender non-confirming people in history. Different cultures had different ways of interpreting the same issue (often by defining a third gender), but they're definitely present. If you're looking to learn more about this, you could start with the Indian subcontinent or native American cultures

[Tom Bishop]

We can find plenty of gay acceptance in ancient civilizations

I mean, there's a good amount of acceptance for various forms of gender non-confirming people in history. Different cultures had different ways of interpreting the same issue (often by defining a third gender), but they're definitely present. If you're looking to learn more about this, you could start with the Indian subcontinent or native American cultures

I note that the word children was avoided in this, so I will take the win.

[garygreen]

If you are arguing that woke leftists brainwashing gay children to be trans might be a good thing because the internet and penicillin was a good thing, then wow.

nope, just pointing out that the natural-vs-unnatural distinction is stupid. botulism and brain tumors are "natural." gas stoves and automobiles are "unnatural." it's obviously a pretty useless distinction for grouping things into "good" and "bad."

it's also not even remotely coherent. what does it even mean to say that some human behavior is "unnatural"?? lmao you get that humans are part of nature, right?

as ever, "unnatural" always just means "the things i don't like." you're free to take that highly-emotional, fearful, and fundamentally amoral position if you like, i just think it's shitty.

[Lord Dave]

And really, transgenderism is very natural.  Plenty of species swap sex.