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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« Reply #1540 on: May 24, 2022, 05:30:38 PM »
Yes, because the claim here is that it has a 100% near term fatality rate.  ::)

What are you referring to as a 100% near term fatality rate?

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« Reply #1541 on: May 24, 2022, 09:04:14 PM »
So the athlete deaths increase by a few every year, but then in 2021 it suddenly increases multiple fold in a single year like the FIFA increase, and coincidentally increasing in number throughout the year as the vaccines are rolled out in number throughout the year, sure.  ::)
So you don't think that the worsening opioid epidemic might have anything to do with the uptick in deaths?
https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/issue-brief-increases-in-opioid-related-overdose.pdf

If the vaccine lowers bodily immunity as it is alleged then it could result in things like infection or cancer.
Sorry, but unsupported "what ifs" are not a compelling argument.
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« Reply #1542 on: June 08, 2022, 01:26:29 PM »
« Last Edit: June 08, 2022, 01:33:31 PM by Tom Bishop »

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« Reply #1543 on: June 08, 2022, 01:49:19 PM »
From the Daily Mail!  LAMO!

Panic!  One 31 year old lady died last year, and we don't know why!!!!!  Run!  It's a conspiracy I tell you!!!!
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« Reply #1544 on: June 08, 2022, 02:00:28 PM »
From the Daily Mail!  LAMO!

Panic!  One 31 year old lady died last year, and we don't know why!!!!!  Run!  It's a conspiracy I tell you!!!!
Don't run, silly. That will just make the chest pains worse.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

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« Reply #1545 on: June 08, 2022, 02:27:40 PM »
From the Daily Mail!  LAMO!

Daily Mail isn't satire.

Neither is Euro Weekly News:

https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/06/08/sudden-adult-death-syndrome-sads/





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« Reply #1546 on: June 08, 2022, 02:34:25 PM »
Daily Mail isn't satire.

Neither is Euro Weekly News:
No, not satire, but mostly just hilarious tabloid sensationalist media.  Anything to keep the paranoid and easily mislead coming back for more exaggerated conspiratorial gibberish.  Just your kind of "news" sources Tom.  Bolster up that confirmation bias, buddy!
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« Reply #1547 on: June 08, 2022, 02:42:43 PM »
No, it's not satire. The story is not false, which is why other sources are reporting on the same subject.

By merely claiming sensationalism your stance appears to be that it is not a big deal that there is an increase of young healthy people dying from this, and not that the story is false that there is an increase of young healthy people dying of this. Which is a weak argument, to say the least, and admits truth to the premise of the story.
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Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« Reply #1548 on: June 08, 2022, 02:52:04 PM »
Daily Mail isn't satire.

Neither is Euro Weekly News:
No, not satire, but mostly just hilarious tabloid sensationalist media.  Anything to keep the paranoid and easily mislead coming back for more exaggerated conspiratorial gibberish.  Just your kind of "news" sources Tom.  Bolster up that confirmation bias, buddy!
Ah yes, the good old Daily Mail. Tom isn't from the UK so obviously doesn't know what a despicable rag it is, but anything that fits his agenda.
The Daily Mail were the ones hysterically wringing their hands about the MMR jab until they did a swift U-Turn once that report about autism was discredited.
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TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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« Reply #1549 on: June 08, 2022, 02:54:54 PM »
By merely claiming that the news is true but sensationalized you are admitting that it's true that there is an increase of sudden deaths, not that it is false.

You are not even claiming that the story is false, just that we shouldn't worry about it. How stupid is that?

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« Reply #1550 on: June 08, 2022, 03:01:17 PM »
By merely claiming that the news is true but sensationalized you are admitting that it's true that there is an increase of sudden deaths, not that it is false.

You are not even claiming that the story is false, just that we shouldn't worry about it. How stupid is that?

Hey tom.

Texas had a sudden increase of deaths recently.  Should you be worried?
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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« Reply #1551 on: June 08, 2022, 03:25:49 PM »
By merely claiming sensationalism your stance appears to be that it is not a big deal that there is an increase of young healthy people dying from this... blah, blah.

Well, first off I would not take any story like this seriously until I've had a gander at where the data came from, how the analysis was done and a detailed explanation on how the conclusions were drawn.  2nd, before I went down that road I'd look and see if there was any hubbub about this in the scientific publications just to make sure that it had some attention from the peers of the scientist's reporting it.  If I could find no evidence that the story was not fully scientifically based I would give it all the attention it deserves.

All that said, claiming sensationalism of a story from the Daily Mail goes without saying.  They would not "print" it otherwise.

That also being said, everyone, regardless of age, should get a physical every year.  That usually means having a gander at things cardio vascular in nature.  Also one 31 YO dyeing of unknown causes last year?  For fuck's sake Tom.  WTF does that even mean?  There were probably 10,000's of unexplained deaths around the world last year. In 1983 too.  Give your head a shake.
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« Reply #1552 on: June 08, 2022, 03:29:05 PM »
The article said that 750 people die a year from this condition. I couldn't find any statistics to show an extreme increase or a link to covid vaccine.

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« Reply #1553 on: June 08, 2022, 07:38:49 PM »
By merely claiming that the news is true but sensationalized you are admitting that it's true that there is an increase of sudden deaths, not that it is false.

You are not even claiming that the story is false, just that we shouldn't worry about it. How stupid is that?

Why are you posting all of this in the 'Coronavirus Vaccine and You' thread?

Apparently, SADS is nothing new. This from 2007:

Sudden arrhythmic death syndrome: a national survey of sudden unexplained cardiac death

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Deaths from SADS occur predominantly in young males. When compared with official mortality, the incidence of SADS may be up to eight times higher than estimated: more than 500 potential SADS cases per annum in England. Families with SADS carry genetic cardiac disease, placing them at risk of further sudden deaths. SADS should therefore be a certifiable cause of death prompting specialised cardiological evaluation of families.

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« Reply #1554 on: June 08, 2022, 07:50:23 PM »
By merely claiming that the news is true but sensationalized you are admitting that it's true that there is an increase of sudden deaths, not that it is false.

You are not even claiming that the story is false, just that we shouldn't worry about it. How stupid is that?

Why are you posting all of this in the 'Coronavirus Vaccine and You' thread?

Apparently, SADS is nothing new. This from 2007:

Sudden arrhythmic death syndrome: a national survey of sudden unexplained cardiac death

Conclusions
Deaths from SADS occur predominantly in young males. When compared with official mortality, the incidence of SADS may be up to eight times higher than estimated: more than 500 potential SADS cases per annum in England. Families with SADS carry genetic cardiac disease, placing them at risk of further sudden deaths. SADS should therefore be a certifiable cause of death prompting specialised cardiological evaluation of families.

It's ridiculous.  Tom's link doesn't even have a reference to COVID or vaccines.
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« Reply #1555 on: June 08, 2022, 08:38:36 PM »
By merely claiming that the news is true but sensationalized you are admitting that it's true that there is an increase of sudden deaths, not that it is false.

You are not even claiming that the story is false, just that we shouldn't worry about it. How stupid is that?

Why are you posting all of this in the 'Coronavirus Vaccine and You' thread?

Apparently, SADS is nothing new. This from 2007:

Sudden arrhythmic death syndrome: a national survey of sudden unexplained cardiac death

Conclusions
Deaths from SADS occur predominantly in young males. When compared with official mortality, the incidence of SADS may be up to eight times higher than estimated: more than 500 potential SADS cases per annum in England. Families with SADS carry genetic cardiac disease, placing them at risk of further sudden deaths. SADS should therefore be a certifiable cause of death prompting specialised cardiological evaluation of families.

Nowhere was it claimed that it was new. It was claimed that there was an increase, with doctors issuing warnings about it.

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« Reply #1556 on: June 08, 2022, 08:53:20 PM »
By merely claiming that the news is true but sensationalized you are admitting that it's true that there is an increase of sudden deaths, not that it is false.

You are not even claiming that the story is false, just that we shouldn't worry about it. How stupid is that?

Why are you posting all of this in the 'Coronavirus Vaccine and You' thread?

Apparently, SADS is nothing new. This from 2007:

Sudden arrhythmic death syndrome: a national survey of sudden unexplained cardiac death

Conclusions
Deaths from SADS occur predominantly in young males. When compared with official mortality, the incidence of SADS may be up to eight times higher than estimated: more than 500 potential SADS cases per annum in England. Families with SADS carry genetic cardiac disease, placing them at risk of further sudden deaths. SADS should therefore be a certifiable cause of death prompting specialised cardiological evaluation of families.

Nowhere was it claimed that it was new. It was claimed that there was an increase, with doctors issuing warnings about it.

This is a thread about the coronavirus vaccine, could you please try and keep it on topic?
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« Reply #1557 on: June 08, 2022, 09:05:35 PM »
Nowhere was it claimed that it was new. It was claimed that there was an increase, with doctors issuing warnings about it.

I'm still looking for the numbers indicating the percentage of increase. Did I miss it?
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« Reply #1558 on: June 09, 2022, 02:33:13 AM »
Nowhere was it claimed that it was new. It was claimed that there was an increase, with doctors issuing warnings about it.

I'm still looking for the numbers indicating the percentage of increase. Did I miss it?

The articles indicated that there was an increase, but didn't quantify it.

This doctor does, however:

https://www.redvoicemedia.com/video/2022/06/doctors-are-baffled-by-the-increase-in-sudden-adult-death-syndrome-sads/

    Dr. Ryan Cole: "Sudden Adult Death Syndrome is because people are getting a toxin in their body that's inflaming their heart."

    "If you look around the world, a couple of athletes per month used to die on the football field or on the soccer pitch. Now we're getting hundreds each month dying. Why? Is there something new in humanity? You bet there is something: a toxic lipid nanoparticle and a toxic modified RNA that doesn't shut off."
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« Reply #1559 on: June 09, 2022, 02:41:45 AM »
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/red-voice-media/

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Yup, Tom's crowd.
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