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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #160 on: March 02, 2020, 04:30:47 PM »
Can we not do giant blocks of text quoting in this thread...

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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #161 on: March 02, 2020, 04:36:43 PM »
But the way y'all are arguing it makes it sound like he's Trump rich, owning 5,000 sq. Ft. Houses in lavish locations.
Are we? All we've pointed out is that it's silly to pretend that someone richer than 95% of your society is not well off. This in no way implies that richer people don't exist.

We even pointed out that this is not a big deal. It's not important, it's not relevant to his policies. Why are you so dedicated to fighting this?
It is a big deal and it is important to his policies.

It clearly demonstrates he is the biggest freaking hypocrite the world has seen in some time.

How so?
Did he claim people should not be allowed to be rich?
His policies will do nothing to help people maintain their current personal wealth, nor will they allow for further wealth to be created.

Wow.  Thats an amazing leap of logic.

Please, I must know how you came to that conclusion.  Be as detailed as possible.
Okay.

Answer this question honestly.

What is the incentive for me to work harder for less of a percentage of the reward for the work?

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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #162 on: March 02, 2020, 04:49:20 PM »
Can we not do giant blocks of text quoting in this thread...

I'll ask nicely one more time...

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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #163 on: March 02, 2020, 04:54:43 PM »
Okay.

Answer this question honestly.

What is the incentive for me to work harder for less of a percentage of the reward for the work?
???
So when I ask for how you concluded that Bernie's policies would stop future wealth creation, you ask me why you'd want to work harder for less?

Ok, To answer your question answer me this: do you like to eat?
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #164 on: March 03, 2020, 01:13:54 AM »
What is the incentive for me to work harder for less of a percentage of the reward for the work?

Because you can still be rich...?

What incentive do I have to work harder if it means I can only make $8,000,000 a year instead of $11,000,000? I'd rather just work at McDonald's!
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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #165 on: March 03, 2020, 01:32:20 AM »
Socialists have been known to tax beyond rates of 90%.

And so this gives multi-millionaire entrepreneurs a dilemma. Is it worth going to work, creating businesses, or would they be better off retired or doing business in another country?

You can't tax the super rich. Its called capital flight. They'll leave and take their money with them. this stops 'future wealth creation' because no one is investing. Why would anyone invest in a place that taxes you into the floor when you can get a better return elsewhere?

I can't believe adults actually think socialism is a good idea. I guess there are some staggeringly stupid people out there.


@Junker ... I have had to adblock your obnoxious signature.  >:(
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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #166 on: March 03, 2020, 02:53:42 AM »
https://www.electionbettingodds.com/

Bernie is losing to a pony faced soldier dog at 46% to 40.5%.

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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #167 on: March 03, 2020, 03:07:57 AM »
Socialists have been known to tax beyond rates of 90%.
The US has had top tax brackets of 90% in the past, and the actual, effective tax rate is never actually anywhere near that for anyone and there wasn't a mass exodus of companies from the US.

And so this gives multi-millionaire entrepreneurs a dilemma. Is it worth going to work, creating businesses, or would they be better off retired or doing business in another country?
The answer to this nonsensical rhetoric is the same as it always has been, yes it is worth it to keep creating businesses...

You can't tax the super rich. Its called capital flight. They'll leave and take their money with them. this stops 'future wealth creation' because no one is investing. Why would anyone invest in a place that taxes you into the floor when you can get a better return elsewhere?
Excellent, just tax any capital leaving the US at 98% and if the super wealthy want to go pull themselves up by the bootstraps all over again in some other country they are free to do so. Of course that wouldn't matter either since tax shelters are a thing which is why no company would consider moving.

I can't believe adults actually think socialism is a good idea. I guess there are some staggeringly stupid people out there.
Literally no one is talking about socialism right now and you don't understand the most basic definition of it.

@Junker ... I have had to adblock your obnoxious signature.  >:(
You are lucky you aren't American otherwise I would be bullying you into voting for Bernie. And you would do it.


The only person to even have some reasonable opposition to Bernard's platform has been Rushy. The rest of you should feel bad for allowing that to be the case.
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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #168 on: March 03, 2020, 06:57:26 AM »
Bernie certainly is the regular working man's candidate. Cannot even tell which private plane is his...needs to make an attempt to board all of them just to have someone tell him which one is actually his...LOL!!!

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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #169 on: March 03, 2020, 07:00:50 AM »
Yeah, I want to eat. The best way for that to happen according to Bernie is government cheese and peanut butter...mind you, it has been a while since I qualified, but if I just shut up and trust in Bernie, I can be assured that will surely be awaiting...

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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #170 on: March 03, 2020, 09:28:30 AM »
Literally no one is talking about socialism right now and you don't understand the most basic definition of it.
This is a thread about Bernie 2020. It is only about socialism. The pepper-faced dictator doesn't talk about anything else.

You are lucky you aren't American otherwise I would be bullying you into voting for Bernie. And you would do it.
If I were American, I would be wearing my MAGA hat, listening to Brad Paisley, watching NASCAR, mining crypto and enjoying a fresh squirrel sandwich. I'd have a large arsenal of guns, wear a checked shirt, own a truck with truck nuts and do line dancing on a Tuesday night. I might even send amorous glaces in my sister's direction and have a personal vendetta against tumbleweed.

I would not be on the latte slurping, purple haired, put a penis in me, safe space needing, iphone poking, tumbler frequenting, DeGeneres loving, not my President side of the country.

The only person to even have some reasonable opposition to Bernard's platform has been Rushy. The rest of you should feel bad for allowing that to be the case.
He's probably taking Sander's campaign too seriously. Trump will walk 2020. Its not even worth refuting.
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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #171 on: March 03, 2020, 11:34:21 AM »
Bernie certainly is the regular working man's candidate. Cannot even tell which private plane is his...needs to make an attempt to board all of them just to have someone tell him which one is actually his...LOL!!!
As opposed to Trump who custom paints all his private jets.

Yeah, I want to eat. The best way for that to happen according to Bernie is government cheese and peanut butter...mind you, it has been a while since I qualified, but if I just shut up and trust in Bernie, I can be assured that will surely be awaiting...

So you have no argument, have no idea what Bernie's platform is, and your entire line of reasoning is 'Bernie bad.  Trump Good.'

Thanks for, once again, showing us how foolish it is to Support Trump.
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #172 on: March 03, 2020, 11:49:47 AM »
Bernie certainly is the regular working man's candidate. Cannot even tell which private plane is his...needs to make an attempt to board all of them just to have someone tell him which one is actually his...LOL!!!
As opposed to Trump who custom paints all his private jets.
Is this thread about Trump?

I thought it was about Sanders?
Yeah, I want to eat. The best way for that to happen according to Bernie is government cheese and peanut butter...mind you, it has been a while since I qualified, but if I just shut up and trust in Bernie, I can be assured that will surely be awaiting...
So you have no argument, have no idea what Bernie's platform is, and your entire line of reasoning is 'Bernie bad.  Trump Good.'

Thanks for, once again, showing us how foolish it is to Support Trump.
The argument you seem to have = "LOOK!!! OVER THERE!!! ORANGE MAN BAD!!!"

I wrote strictly about the OP candidate, Bernie Sanders, and you try to derail?

Isn't there a Trump thread already?
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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #173 on: March 03, 2020, 11:57:09 AM »
Do you have an argument against Bernie's platform that has reasoning?  Evidence?  Logical thought?
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #174 on: March 03, 2020, 12:51:44 PM »
Do you have an argument against Bernie's platform that has reasoning?  Evidence?  Logical thought?
Yeah.

Bread lines are not a good sign of economic wealth for any country...but according to Bernie, they are.

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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #175 on: March 03, 2020, 01:44:50 PM »
Do you have an argument against Bernie's platform that has reasoning?  Evidence?  Logical thought?
Yeah.

Bread lines are not a good sign of economic wealth for any country...but according to Bernie, they are.
I probably should know better than to get involved but I suspect you're straw-manning the shit out of him here.
He said that, did he?
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #176 on: March 03, 2020, 02:02:02 PM »
Do you have an argument against Bernie's platform that has reasoning?  Evidence?  Logical thought?
Yeah.

Bread lines are not a good sign of economic wealth for any country...but according to Bernie, they are.
Citation needed.
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #177 on: March 03, 2020, 04:06:53 PM »
Do you have an argument against Bernie's platform that has reasoning?  Evidence?  Logical thought?
Yeah.

Bread lines are not a good sign of economic wealth for any country...but according to Bernie, they are.
I probably should know better than to get involved but I suspect you're straw-manning the shit out of him here.
He said that, did he?
Of course he said it.

Bernie loves bread lines!
Do you have an argument against Bernie's platform that has reasoning?  Evidence?  Logical thought?
Yeah.

Bread lines are not a good sign of economic wealth for any country...but according to Bernie, they are.
Citation needed.
Look up Sanders loves bread lines.

"When asked about breadlines in Nicaragua and Sanders’ support for Sandinistas, the senator quipped: “It’s funny, sometimes American journalists talk about how bad a country is, that people are lining up for food. That is a good thing! In other countries people don’t line up for food: the rich get the food and the poor starve to death.”
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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #178 on: March 03, 2020, 05:09:40 PM »
That sounds like something Stalin would say.

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Re: Bernie 2020
« Reply #179 on: March 03, 2020, 05:24:43 PM »
He's probably taking Sander's campaign too seriously. Trump will walk 2020. Its not even worth refuting.

Rushy definitely does not take Bernard seriously and agrees with your Trump opinion. I think I also agree at this point. I hope sleepy Joe has enough amphetamines in his system to give a lucid speech tonight while hopefully remembering what state he happens to be in. I also hope he calls someone the equivalent of a 'lying dog-faced pony soldier' again.