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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: Today at 04:55:39 PM »
I doubt it would matter to those who already made up their mind about her credibility.
For sure. Luckily, I'm not one of those people, so I'm not sure why you haven't yet laid out your argument for how accepting hush money for lying about something makes one more credible.
I never said that it did.  I simply asked a question.

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Its not easy to fly over antarcticaa you know.
Why?
Mostly because there really isn't much need to do so.  There just aren't that many great circle routes between destinations in the southern hemisphere to justify the extra cold weather precautions that would be required on such flights.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_route#Operational_considerations

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: Today at 12:25:11 AM »
How much of Daniels' lying can be attributed to receiving hush money and/or being required to sign an NDA on the matter?
Potentially lots and lots. Does it make her more credible if she accepted money for it?
I doubt it would matter to those who already made up their mind about her credibility.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 24, 2023, 11:11:01 PM »
I see no reason to propose that Daniels is more credible than Trump in this scenario. She is guaranteed to have lied.
How much of Daniels' lying can be attributed to receiving hush money and/or being required to sign an NDA on the matter?

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Suggestions & Concerns / Is it time for a new FAQ?
« on: March 20, 2023, 02:48:06 AM »
So now, if I say “some”, that still seems to be an issue.
Yes, it's still an issue, because you still don't have the first idea about FE, but you have the audacity to push beliefs onto others.

There seems to be an ongoing problem around here: RE'ers aren't quite sure what FE'ers believe.  Even when RE'ers are referred to the WIKI, Pete has sagely pointed out that the the WIKI has a good deal of historical material that may or may not still be relevant to modern FET.  There is also the problem that relatively little of the discussion in the FE discussion boards is actually about FET, and even so, different FE'ers may have different (and often conflicting) ideas.  Is it any wonder that even long time posters "still don't have the first idea about FE"?

To help alleviate this problem, perhaps it's time for a new FAQ that focuses on presenting a concise outline of what RE'ers need to know in order to be able to have a (relatively) productive discussion about contemporary FET.  I would recommend that it be clearly pointed out which topics have reached a consensus among FE'ers and which are still being contested, along with links to relevant WIKI articles.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Curvature of the Horizon
« on: March 11, 2023, 05:36:23 PM »
You are sadly wrong if you think the photo you present depicts a clear distinction, but it doesn't. Go ahead and point it out.
Ummm....  The dark blue area in the bottom half of the picture is the sea and the light blue area in the top half is the sky.  To my eyes, there is a pretty clear and distinct change from dark blue to light blue in the middle.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Curvature of the Horizon
« on: March 11, 2023, 04:06:10 PM »
There is no clear distinction between the water and the sky.

You can never be sure of which is which from three miles away.

I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand or believe.

It's hard to understand or believe because it's obviously wrong.  If you can't see where the water ends and the sky begins in this photo, then I'm not sure how much more clear the distinction needs to be to satisfy you.

I'm also not quite sure why you're hung up on three miles.  Depending on your elevation, the horizon is often far more than three miles away.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Curvature of the Horizon
« on: March 10, 2023, 11:55:05 PM »
And yet there are other times where there is no gradient of color between the water and sky or reflectivity in either medium where the distinction is quite obvious.  Don't those situations count?
You have no way of knowing what situations are present at the moment of observation, given you are three miles away.
As for knowing the conditions three miles out to sea...  Well, it's a fairly trivial thing to have someone go three miles out on a boat and report those conditions back to you via phone or radio.
They are at their point, and you are at yours. They are looking at what things look like up close, not from three miles away. Things look different.
The conditions across the three or more miles (depending on your elevation) across the sea determines what kind of view of the horizon you will get.  If you can see a nice, crisp distinction between the water and the sky (horizon), then there is a pretty good chance that the conditions across those three or more miles are pretty favorable for such observations.  However, if you have any questions about the conditions between the your position and the three or more miles in question, then you should have a trusted associate get in a boat and go out three or more miles and report the conditions along the way.  Again, if the conditions are favorable along the way, then there's a pretty good chance that the view from the boat will be pretty much the same as the view from the shore.  I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand or believe.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Curvature of the Horizon
« on: March 09, 2023, 10:10:28 PM »

And on a clear day, with little swell or chop, lo and behold it’s still a clear line.

I really don’t understand how people can say it’s not.
You can keep making this false statement until the end of time (if you choose), but I have already pointed out why it is false.
Are you concerned that the "line" between the water and sky is not a geometrically perfect straight line?  If so, then why should it make a difference in anything but most pedantic sense?
Once again, it is readily apparent the gradients of color between water and sky are, at times, indistinguishable from each other, rendering the delineation between the two (at a point three miles away from the observer) impossible.

Same with the issues of reflectivity in both mediums. Both can be very reflective at times. A person has no way of knowing what the conditions of any point three miles away are while standing there looking at it.
And yet there are other times where there is no gradient of color between the water and sky or reflectivity in either medium where the distinction is quite obvious.  Don't those situations count?

As for knowing the conditions three miles out to sea...  Well, it's a fairly trivial thing to have someone go three miles out on a boat and report those conditions back to you via phone or radio.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Curvature of the Horizon
« on: March 09, 2023, 02:04:48 AM »

And on a clear day, with little swell or chop, lo and behold it’s still a clear line.

I really don’t understand how people can say it’s not.
You can keep making this false statement until the end of time (if you choose), but I have already pointed out why it is false.
Are you concerned that the "line" between the water and sky is not a geometrically perfect straight line?  If so, then why should it make a difference in anything but most pedantic sense?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Absurd censorship
« on: March 09, 2023, 12:19:33 AM »
And I submit Roald Dahl's work wasn't directly insulting anyone either.
Direct insults are not the only way to be offended.  For example, some people are offended by explicit sexual references or excessive profanity, even if not directed at anyone in particular.  Even someone with an obnoxious attitude can be offensive to some.

The point is, some people can take some things any way they wish.

If a person wants to spend their time looking for insults, they can find them anywhere...

...primarily, however, in their imagination.
Agreed.  Some people are overly sensitive and/or go out of their way to look for things to be offended by.  Some people get over zealous in trying to cater to those people while others are themselves offended by such people and go out of their way to offend them even more.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Flat Earth Scientific Proof
« on: February 21, 2023, 01:04:15 AM »
The distance between the buildings was measured by "high precision GPS" to be 3021.77km.  How much difference did they expect between the tops and bottoms of the buildings?  They said that even a few meters difference would show curvature.  Since they only measured to 2 decimal places, then a difference of less than 10m would not be measured and therefore the "experiment" would be inconclusive.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Balloon Madness
« on: February 14, 2023, 11:42:33 PM »
This begs the question as to the purpose of the overhead objects or if there ever was any.
Consider the military uses of various parts of the EM spectrum other than visible light.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly
« on: February 12, 2023, 07:15:13 PM »
Imagine being an utter dick, incapable of reading.
Imagine not feeling the need to resort to personal attacks every time someone disagrees with you.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« on: February 12, 2023, 12:46:07 AM »
In context of bombs, then yes, radiation is most certainly evidence of a nuclear bomb.  That is unless you can show that TNT or other conventional bombs produce radiation similar to that expected from nuclear bombs.

So, in the world of markjo, dirty bombs don't exist?
Of course dirty bombs could exist, although I have not heard of any reports of a dirty bomb being used.  Have you?  Have you compared the radiation from a dirty bomb to the radiation found at a nuclear bomb explosion?

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« on: January 27, 2023, 10:51:12 PM »
Radiation isn't evidence of a nuclear bomb...
In context of bombs, then yes, radiation is most certainly evidence of a nuclear bomb.  That is unless you can show that TNT or other conventional bombs produce radiation similar to that expected from nuclear bombs.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: January 26, 2023, 02:24:53 AM »

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: January 25, 2023, 03:38:21 AM »

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: January 11, 2023, 11:58:51 PM »
R.I.P. Jeff Beck  :'(

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