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Marriage equality in Australia
« on: April 01, 2015, 02:03:58 PM »
Amidst the government's many and varied fuck-ups of late, there's one issue being discussed in Parliament that's largely been tossed aside by the media, as they focus on budget cuts, refugee mistreatment and Internet censorship. Recently, a member of our Liberal Democrats (a minor party holding only one seat in Parliament), Senator David Leyonhjelm, introduced a bill to legalise same-sex marriage in Australia.

It's a touchy subject for many politicians, with Labor having allowed their members a conscience vote, but the Coalition (which presently controls a majority in the House of Representatives) still forcing their representatives to vote against the issue, which has effectively prevented any possibility of this legislation being passed. Leyonhjelm seems to be hedging his bets, trying to introduce the matter slowly; the bill in question was drafted some months ago, but not introduced until very recently. Unless the Coalition changes its position on a conscience vote, however, there's not much hope.

Senator Leyonhjelm recently penned an article outlining the intent of the bill. I agree with everything he says in the article, as usual for the Liberal Democrats' social policies, but the thing that I find disturbing about it is the hate mail (shown as an image about halfway down) from someone who seems to think that the Senator should be shot in the stomach for daring to stand up for civil liberties.

If anything, Leyonhjelm having the balls to stand up for this issue in Parliament while the major parties are bickering over who's done the most damage to the economy in the past decade has made me seriously consider voting Liberal Democrats next election. There are a few socially progressive parties with seats in the Senate at the moment (most significantly, the Greens), but the Lib Dems seem to be the only ones putting their money where their mouth is.

Here's hoping the Coalition follows Labor into the 21st century and gives their members a conscience vote on marriage equality this year.
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Re: Marriage equality in Australia
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2015, 07:51:17 PM »
Same sex marriage? Yuck.

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Re: Marriage equality in Australia
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2015, 08:10:21 PM »
Same sex marriage? Yuck.

Yeah, it's sickening when people are allowed to do things that don't hurt anyone.

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Re: Marriage equality in Australia
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2015, 08:15:45 PM »
Clearly you've never had a penis in your bum, then.

This explains a lot...

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Re: Marriage equality in Australia
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2015, 08:16:41 PM »
the homo tension etc. etc.

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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2015, 08:17:10 PM »
I deleted that before your reply as I assumed such a stupid thread was in Angry ranting. I will give a political reason why same sex marriage hurts ordinary people when I return from swimming. You may speculate wildly as to my reasoning in the mean time.

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Re: Marriage equality in Australia
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2015, 08:23:14 PM »
Hrmmm, I speculate that it hurts everyone because the go-go care-free party lifestyle of the typical homosexual is a drain on the economy.  Rather than getting real jobs, they party and put a drain on the universal healthcare system by contracting a multitude of diseases from this lifestyle.

Am I close?

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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2015, 08:25:05 PM »
No, it's probably about kids.
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Re: Marriage equality in Australia
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2015, 08:25:47 PM »
Hrmmm, I speculate that it hurts everyone because the go-go care-free party lifestyle of the typical homosexual is a drain on the economy.  Rather than getting real jobs, they party and put a drain on the universal healthcare system by contracting a multitude of diseases from this lifestyle.

Am I close?

So the answer to reducing the effects of that lifestyle is to forbid the most common method of settling down. Yeah, makes sense.

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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2015, 08:25:59 PM »
Hrmmm, I speculate that it hurts everyone because the go-go care-free party lifestyle of the typical homosexual is a drain on the economy.  Rather than getting real jobs, they party and put a drain on the universal healthcare system by contracting a multitude of diseases from this lifestyle.

Am I close?

No, it's because gay people don't reproduce, and white people need to make as many babies as possible before the foreign invaders overwhelm us with their numerical superiority.

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Re: Marriage equality in Australia
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2015, 08:52:08 PM »
If gays can marry I should be able to marry my cat Digit. When is this going to happen? Until this happens I am vehemently opposed to equal marriage rights.

Equal rights for all creatures! That is my stand.

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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2015, 09:11:32 PM »
Leyonhjelm is an enigma. Perfectly reasonable on some issues and batshit crazy on others. On the point of gay people not reproducing, that's actually a boon for Australia. Our growth rate is way too high for a developed country (it's currently among one of the highest in the world), so they last thing we need is more babies. Housing is already under heavy demand, which reflects in our stupid high house prices.

Thork will likely trot out the old "blacks are outnumbering us!!@12" line again.
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Re: Marriage equality in Australia
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2015, 09:55:22 PM »
So far the wild speculation is going well. Some good points, there are a few others that need addressing before I can deliver a comprehensive answer so I will leave the conjecture  little while longer.

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Re: Marriage equality in Australia
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2015, 10:10:31 PM »
Are you posting while swimming?
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2015, 10:17:25 PM »
I have finished swimming and got home. My laptop is not water resistant, so I leave it at home when I swim.

Re: Marriage equality in Australia
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2015, 10:35:44 PM »
I'm glad this thread in the serious fora can be Thork's twitter.

Marriage equality  is about equality before the law. I think that's a fairly clear thing.
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Re: Marriage equality in Australia
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2015, 04:36:35 AM »
Hrmmm, I speculate that it hurts everyone because the go-go care-free party lifestyle of the typical homosexual is a drain on the economy.  Rather than getting real jobs, they party and put a drain on the universal healthcare system by contracting a multitude of diseases from this lifestyle.

Am I close?

No, it's because gay people don't reproduce, and white people need to make as many babies as possible before the foreign Muslim invaders overwhelm us with their numerical superiority.
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Re: Marriage equality in Australia
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2015, 05:06:36 AM »
Leyonhjelm is an enigma. Perfectly reasonable on some issues and batshit crazy on others.

To a large degree, this view of him stems from the common treatment of politics as a one-dimensional spectrum. I found this article quite enlightening, albeit somewhat biased; at least it does help to clarify where he's coming from. He's a social progressive, but economically far-right.

I'm not as much of a hard-line libertarian as Leyonhjelm, but I can understand his views, and I think they're a refreshing contrast to the Greens' socialist-leaning platform in the Senate. Personally, my own views are somewhere in between.
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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2015, 07:31:46 AM »
Leyonhjelm is an enigma. Perfectly reasonable on some issues and batshit crazy on others.

To a large degree, this view of him stems from the common treatment of politics as a one-dimensional spectrum. I found this article quite enlightening, albeit somewhat biased; at least it does help to clarify where he's coming from. He's a social progressive, but economically far-right.

I'm not as much of a hard-line libertarian as Leyonhjelm, but I can understand his views, and I think they're a refreshing contrast to the Greens' socialist-leaning platform in the Senate. Personally, my own views are somewhere in between.

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He also opposes Medicare, the pharmaceutical benefits scheme, public schools and many other central progressive projects.

Yeah, he's nuts. When you're throwing out beneficial and fundamental schemes in the name of ideology, you should probably temper the ideology a tad.

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Re: Marriage equality in Australia
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2015, 08:23:15 AM »
If gays can marry I should be able to marry my cat Digit. When is this going to happen? Until this happens I am vehemently opposed to equal marriage rights.

Equal rights for all creatures! That is my stand.

The requirement for marriage is that both parties have an understanding and consent to the union. When you demonstrate that your cat is sufficiently sentient to agree to marry you, I'll fight for your right to marry them.