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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Is the UK okay?
« on: August 15, 2024, 05:38:54 PM »
So many that you couldn’t name one.

Did you think that was a checkmate? There are so many laws that grant freedoms that it felt silly listing a few. If you had taken even the smallest bit of time to look you could have saved yourself this embarrassment:

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=laws+that+grant+freedoms

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Is the UK okay?
« on: August 15, 2024, 01:11:28 PM »
Laws pretty much by definition restrict your freedom. They dictate what you must or must not do.

No, many laws grant freedoms. In the States there are multiple amendments that grant freedoms as well other Federal and State laws. The fact that you think laws "by definition restrict your freedom" speaks volumes about the views you've developed under an oppressive regime.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Is the UK okay?
« on: August 14, 2024, 12:06:14 PM »
Y'all, the Brits don't even know what freedom is.
Yeah. You just keep on standing on the side of the road waiting till a little man tells you that you can cross, lest you get fined, while congratulating yourselves on how free you are.

Tell me you’ve never been to America without telling me you’ve never been to America.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Is the UK okay?
« on: August 13, 2024, 02:49:17 PM »
Y'all, the Brits don't even know what freedom is. It's like listening to a border collie's opinions on language theory. Sure they can learn a few words and some of them can even understand a full sentence, but any complexity is completely lost on them. Sadly, this is where the comparison breaks down. You see, it's not the dogs fault they they cannot understand language, but it is the Brit's fault that they continue to live in willful ignorance of freedom.

At some point in every Brit's life they have to look across the pond and say, "No sir, that's not for me. I'll just take another scoop of beans for breakfast and continue to kowtow to my imperial overlords." The Torres are making a good run at waking up the masses but at the end of the day they'll never be able to attain the level of freedom that their former colonies have wrestled away from them. They are simply still to entrenched in the system.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 15, 2024, 08:20:00 PM »
Hillary might have had a far better election night had Comey not nuked her from high orbit just days before the election.

The best part about that was Trump was like, "Thanks for taking the heat off the bus video and winning me the election. You're fired."

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Eurovision
« on: May 25, 2023, 07:30:50 PM »
Fantastic. So glad you read the posts in here. Great mods all around, thanks for stopping by.

You're welcome!

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Eurovision
« on: May 25, 2023, 05:43:36 PM »
I wish someone would mansplain Eurovision to me. What’s it like an annual song and dance show and the winner gets crowned Dancing Queen by ABBA?
It's not mansplaining if you don't know what it is and are asking for an explanation.



I hate all of you sm

Wow, what a condescending way to explain mansplaining to me.

Anyways. Eurovision looks neat. I hope your team wins.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Eurovision
« on: May 25, 2023, 01:44:38 PM »
I wish someone would mansplain Eurovision to me. What’s it like an annual song and dance show and the winner gets crowned Dancing Queen by ABBA?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: June 09, 2022, 04:02:40 PM »



This one really made me chuckle. Good find, Tom!

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Let's use the site-wide theme in CN
« on: April 26, 2022, 06:24:03 PM »
I say we use Blanko's theme in CN in memory of him.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: ISS Photo From The Ground
« on: April 23, 2022, 12:30:27 AM »
I can use specialised software to see much more than a magical space station. Be bold, name what you'd like to see. Specialised software will sort it out.

Can you show me some Moon Shrimp?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: ISS Photo From The Ground
« on: April 22, 2022, 04:10:22 PM »
How do you know it was the same object? What if ...

The overwhelming preponderence of evidence supporting it, and the total lack of any firm evidence to show that it could be anything else.

Do you have anything in support of your "What if ..." ???

It would just explain everything in a way that fits neatly with already established flat-earth facts.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: ISS Photo From The Ground
« on: April 22, 2022, 03:12:25 PM »
Round-earthers say it’s moving at 17K mph.

... which is entirely consistent with both the stated orbital height, and duration of orbit.

I've seen it twice in an evening, on more than one occasion; each appearance separated by 90 mins or so. Calculate the length of orbit, based on stated speed, height and textbook radius of Earth, and you arrive at an orbital time of around 90 mins.

It's also consistent with the first orbital satellite, Sputnik 1, which was not only seen, but heard, as folks on the ground both watched it and listened to its beep-beep radio transmission. Accounts of what people saw and heard also mention an orbital time of around 90 mins, implying similar speed.

How do you know it was the same object? What if they are like busses timed to pass by every 90 min?

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Home Page
« on: April 22, 2022, 01:32:43 PM »
Absolutely. If you'd like to post an announcement, simply create a thread and let me know when it's ready to be moved to Announcements.

Maybe AllAroundTheWorld is saying that since we've all proven incapable of keeping up with announcements that the home page should be redesigned to exclude this feature. Or maybe he's not saying that. idk

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: ISS Photo From The Ground
« on: April 22, 2022, 01:19:01 PM »
Regardless of the shape of the earth, at ground level to chase the sun one full revolution you’d have to be traveling at approximately 1000 MPH for 24 hours. Doable for let’s say some hi-tech blimp I suppose. But now you have to do the same thing in just an hour and a half. On land, to make one full revolution in 90 minutes, you’d have to be going something like 16x faster, or around 16,000 MPH. Rise in altitude, farther to travel, more speed required. Let me know if my math is wrong.

Well, I am still researching this so I didn't want to prematurely mention it, but I suspect that there are multiple dirigibles. As they move around some can "go dark" and not be visible. The "space station" is not always visible. Even round-earthers agree that you can't see it in day time. Plus there is no need to fly the dirigibles on cloudy nights. So with only a few windows of opportunity (night time, clear skies, outside of a high-light metropolitan area) mixed with having the right equipment to even see the dirigible there are only a handful of people at any given time who can confirm its existence. This severely limits the times and places where the dirigible needs to appear and with multiple dirigibles the illusion can be easily achieved.

On top of all that, if anyone here were to get the proper equipment, go out into a desolate field on a clear night and look for the "space station" and fail to find it? You would 100% chalk it up to user error. Tell me you wouldn't.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: ISS Photo From The Ground
« on: April 21, 2022, 08:18:09 PM »
There’s a small problem with the contention that the space station is anchored to the North Pole under the flat earth theory.  That’s the fallacy of the earth’s upward acceleration to ‘simulate’ gravity.  In order for the space station to maintain a tension on a rope attached to the North Pole there would have to be a rocket engine on the space station to also maintain an upwards acceleration.  I’ve never seen any evidence of a rocket exhaust in any of the pictures.  Clearly there’s humans aboard the space station because I’ve personally heard them on the HAM radio frequencies.

By this logic birthday balloons would not stay afloat. The dirigible-station sails the upper bounds of the atmoplain like a ship anchored in a bay.


The difference being that in the ISS dirigible theory, the dirigible is traveling at over 17,000 miles per hour, is tied to tether(s) that would have to withstand 17,000 mph movement in upper atmosphere and the forces of the dirigible pulling in it, is being moved and steared by a force that would need to be defined, is attached to tethers that would have to be thousands and thousands of miles in length, and that would somehow need a plan for servicing said tether(s) if said tether(s) were to break or become damaged. Additionally, what would be the method of servicing such tethers without the billions of people on the ground knowing. Lastly, how would employees at NASA be mistaken that the ISS is orbiting the Earth vs. the ISS as a dirigible attached to tether(s)? They would be monitoring the ISS and not realize it's actually a dirigible with tether(s) attached?

Round-earthers say it’s moving at 17K mph. I’m not exactly sure how fast it’s moving but if it were closer then it wouldn’t have to move nearly as fast. 

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: ISS Photo From The Ground
« on: April 20, 2022, 09:55:09 PM »
There’s a small problem with the contention that the space station is anchored to the North Pole under the flat earth theory.  That’s the fallacy of the earth’s upward acceleration to ‘simulate’ gravity.  In order for the space station to maintain a tension on a rope attached to the North Pole there would have to be a rocket engine on the space station to also maintain an upwards acceleration.  I’ve never seen any evidence of a rocket exhaust in any of the pictures.  Clearly there’s humans aboard the space station because I’ve personally heard them on the HAM radio frequencies.

By this logic birthday balloons would not stay afloat. The dirigible-station sails the upper bounds of the atmoplain like a ship anchored in a bay.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: ISS Photo From The Ground
« on: April 20, 2022, 06:51:47 PM »
Whilst you may think " . . . further(ing) flat-earth theory . . ." is facetious, its actually the only reason most roundies come on here.  The only way to prove a theory is to disprove the alternatives...

It may or may not surprise you to learn that many flat-earthers only come here to show round-earthers how extremely tenuous their grasp of their own theories are despite how dogmatically they cling to them.

"The only way to prove a theory is to disprove the alternatives..." smacks of a famous Doyle quote, "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." While this sounds erudite on the surface, a mere sophomoric understanding of rhetoric will reveal this quote for what it is; a parade down the avenue of arguments from ignorance. Not only does the Scientific Method not teach this but nether does the Zetetic Method. Furthermore, theories aren't meant to be proven or disproven they are a body of knowledge that explains something. Like how the Theory of Evolution is true but is still called a theory. It's a semantic misunderstanding.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: ISS Photo From The Ground
« on: April 18, 2022, 10:27:58 PM »
Some additional feasibility considerations or questions to look into regarding the tethered theory would be:

Thank you for helping to further flat-earth theory. These questions will be looked into.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: ISS Photo From The Ground
« on: April 15, 2022, 09:07:16 PM »
Cool. How might it work?

I don't know. But just as I don't need to know how my cell phone works to know that it works, I know that dirigibles exist and work. 

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