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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why is there no flat earth map?
« on: March 09, 2018, 12:42:05 AM »
None of us can deny that Tom isn't correct about the lack of a final Earth shape map. 

Contributing to such an important cause seems like such a logical solution.   

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why is there no flat earth map?
« on: March 09, 2018, 12:00:53 AM »
Yes, and pilots used flat maps.

Many have come to consider the globe a toy because it has failed to live up to its expectation. 

Have you seen pilots taking along a globe to use as a navigation tool? 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why is there no flat earth map?
« on: March 08, 2018, 11:41:28 PM »
The Earth has not been fully and accurately mapped so it does seem reasonable to hold out judgement on what is considered the final map until the new mapping project has been completed.

The "globe" has been called out for displaying incorrect presentation so one should not assume it to be correct.

Good to see you drop by, gotham.

Thanks junker!  Lots to do in the realm of proper Earth shape identification.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why is there no flat earth map?
« on: March 08, 2018, 10:42:13 PM »
The Earth has not been fully and accurately mapped so it does seem reasonable to hold out judgement on what is considered the final map until the new mapping project has been completed.

The "globe" has been called out for displaying incorrect presentation so one should not assume it to be correct.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Is the other site down?
« on: April 16, 2017, 11:33:44 AM »
just in case...

I haven't heard back yet either. Maybe he's trying to reach Daniel or they are both busy with Easter celebrations and activities?

I also mentioned if it was a money thing...we would have to dig deep to take care of business. 

Merger on the table...hmm?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Other forum is hacked by "Mister Somebody"
« on: November 25, 2016, 10:31:25 PM »
looks like mr.dreamx has struck again.  i contacted John about it.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Other forum is hacked by "Mister Somebody"
« on: November 23, 2016, 11:44:52 PM »
this time we were hacked by Mr.DreamX196   I contacted John Davis about it and let him know...

    -resolve shouldn't be more than an hour or two.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: The fracturing of the Flat Earth community
« on: January 23, 2016, 09:45:12 PM »
Well with all that going on, he would be rather displeased to have members trying to keep his name involved...I just hope he is OK.


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Flat Earth Community / Re: The fracturing of the Flat Earth community
« on: January 23, 2016, 09:26:30 PM »
Gotham, even if we did take your suggestions seriously, how do you think it can be accomplished? If Daniel himself doesn't want anything to do with it - and evidently he does not - there is no point in even discussing it.

Fair question.  He would have to be a participant.  I do not know why we haven't heard from him in a while? I have, in the past, had some personal communications with him and he always did express himself with concern and resolve to make the TFES the best it can be.  Others may be in recent communications and are kept to confidentiality. 

If he is nowhere to be heard from, I also offer to him any method of previous contact he trusts to reach me and i will assist him in any way i can and keep any or all portions of those words either public or private, depending on his necessity.   He does know i will not betray his trust.

In the meanwhile, I am better informed on where your .org is coming from and appreciate the education.

 

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Flat Earth Community / Re: The fracturing of the Flat Earth community
« on: January 23, 2016, 01:49:55 PM »
I could have used better words instead of ones like “ownership” and “legitimacy.” It was late and I was jamming it to finish my post. My train of thought was:

Daniel is recognized as the person who renewed TFES going back to Rowbotham. He did represent the society as that person and developed the website that, more than likely, influenced us having this discussion today.

There is strength in having historical FET continuity to those important to its beginnings.

There is a benefit to FET when one go-to location is more recognized as having the voice of consensus.
 
There is benefit to FET when able to identify locations that advance FET for what it is.

Terms like “splinter group” are an unfair representation of reality and shouldn't be tagged as such into the future, as the beginning. 


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Flat Earth Community / Re: The fracturing of the Flat Earth community
« on: January 23, 2016, 02:56:47 AM »
To secure a claim of legitimacy, we originate a process deeming all groups claiming relevance to FET recognize Daniel’s ownership of everything TFES, for all the right reasons. 

Daniel is brought into negotiations and, because the future of TFES is paramount, he recognizes that guidance by the Zetetic Council is a prudent way to establish a controlling entity for TFES.

Our two orgs discuss how the inner workings of the Zetetic Council can best influence Society interests. 

Daniel writes a manifesto similar to:

“As the legitimate and recognized President of any and all organizations claiming formation and association as The Flat Earth Society (“The Society”), I hereby command the Zetetic Council (“The Council”) as specified in this document to be the sole administrative functioning body that will remain the foundation of The Society throughout perpetuity. Any individual or group wishing recognition of legitimacy within The Society must apply as stated in this document and be willing to continue operating within the guidelines set forth and with all future amendment changes issued by The Council.”

Then our two groups can either merge (preferable?) or remain independent but must act within the guidelines of The Council.

A period of time is established whereby known groups are contacted by The Council to begin their approval process. If they protest or ignore our request, they are not recognized as legitimate.

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Zetetic Method:

Truth is attainable.


Scientific Method;

Truth is not attainable.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
« on: January 17, 2016, 03:56:19 AM »
Thanks junker. Lots of good things going on here for our very important task at hand!

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth Elementary Schools
« on: January 17, 2016, 02:14:16 AM »
FET should be included in the curriculum at all educational levels.  Why? Because RET is being questioned as to its validity and has much to answer for. How it usurped the long history of FET is for another thread, but by simply saying the Earth is round over and over because of current textbook conjecture without presenting the doubters viewpoint is wrong. Eluding those who know otherwise by avoiding inclusion of FET in the decision making process is wrong. It does not bode well for speaking of purported truth while holding back the tide of those that can prove RET wrong.

If RE believers are so confident, they should assist in every way possible to expedite FET into textbooks. 

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: REQUEST FOR COMMENTS: Reunification Proposal
« on: January 04, 2015, 08:26:18 PM »
Yes

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: On the notion of FES reunification
« on: August 03, 2014, 09:51:54 PM »
With PP's/Parsifal's suggestions and Daniel's acceptance, reunification can only help TFES. Solidarity between the two sites can strengthen our message and purpose.

It seems to me that the other site will be accepting of the merge for all the right reasons. To those of us who do care about what TFES represents and its future, this makes good sense.  You know where to find me here and there if there is anything I can do to help.     

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