The Sun Is A Spotlight

geckothegeek · « **on:** July 31, 2015, 08:25:27 PM »

I have come here because this website is managed better, works faster and I believe is the place to get flat earth answers.

It has been said that the sun is a spotlight. But there is another statement :
"It merely acts like a spotlight." An explanation would be appreciated. It seems there is some confusion. If the sun "merely acts like a spotlight" why is it not a spotlight ?
If it is not a spotlight - what is it ?

Tom Bishop · « **Reply #1 on:** August 01, 2015, 08:19:03 PM »

A spotlight shines light in one direction. The sun shines light in all directions, which is limited in its extent by the opacity of the atmosphere and certain limits to human perspective across a plane earth. Since the light does not propagate infinitely, due to the fact that the atmosphere is not perfectly transparent, its light is limited to a spot of light upon the plane earth. Hence, the sun is casting a spotlight without itself literally casting light in only one direction.

geckothegeek · « **Reply #2 on:** August 02, 2015, 12:46:08 AM »

As usual flat earth trying to make sense of nonsense is nonsense.

The sun is definitely not a spotlight in any sense. I realize that this website is not a place for reality, so it is useless to post real facts for the benefit of flat earthers.

Tom Bishop · « **Reply #3 on:** August 02, 2015, 04:29:45 PM »

Does a candle illuminate the earth infinitely into the distance? Therefore it is casting a "spot of light" upon the earth.

markjo · « **Reply #4 on:** August 02, 2015, 10:08:49 PM »

No Tom, a candle illuminates an area, not a spot. Spots are small. The area illuminated by the sun is not small, especially when compared to the size of the FE sun.

geckothegeek · « **Reply #5 on:** August 03, 2015, 03:45:25 AM »

Quote from: Tom Bishop on August 01, 2015, 08:19:03 PM

A spotlight shines light in one direction. The sun shines light in all directions, which is limited in its extent by the opacity of the atmosphere and certain limits to human perspective across a plane earth. Since the light does not propagate infinitely, due to the fact that the atmosphere is not perfectly transparent, its light is limited to a spot of light upon the plane earth. Hence, the sun is casting a spotlight without itself literally casting light in only one direction.

How does the sun act on other planets and the moon ?

Tom Bishop · « **Reply #6 on:** August 03, 2015, 07:45:07 PM »

Quote from: markjo on August 02, 2015, 10:08:49 PM

No Tom, a candle illuminates an area, not a spot. Spots are small. The area illuminated by the sun is not small, especially when compared to the size of the FE sun.

If a foreigner circled their finger at an area of a map and said that they live in that spot, that they may be pointing at an entire country is not an incorrect usage of the word spot.

Quote from: geckothegeek on August 03, 2015, 03:45:25 AM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on August 01, 2015, 08:19:03 PM
A spotlight shines light in one direction. The sun shines light in all directions, which is limited in its extent by the opacity of the atmosphere and certain limits to human perspective across a plane earth. Since the light does not propagate infinitely, due to the fact that the atmosphere is not perfectly transparent, its light is limited to a spot of light upon the plane earth. Hence, the sun is casting a spotlight without itself literally casting light in only one direction.

How does the sun act on other planets and the moon ?

There is no atmosphere in space.

markjo · « **Reply #7 on:** August 03, 2015, 10:30:15 PM »

Quote from: Tom Bishop on August 03, 2015, 07:45:07 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 02, 2015, 10:08:49 PM
No Tom, a candle illuminates an area, not a spot. Spots are small. The area illuminated by the sun is not small, especially when compared to the size of the FE sun.

If a foreigner circled their finger at an area of a map and said that they live in that spot, that they may be pointing at an entire country is not an incorrect usage of the word spot.

Yes, it is an incorrect usage of the word spot. An area is not a spot. A spot is a specific location. An area is a general region. Do you honestly not understand the distinction or do you just want to play the semantics game again?

Tom Bishop · « **Reply #8 on:** August 03, 2015, 11:09:32 PM »

Quote from: markjo on August 03, 2015, 10:30:15 PM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on August 03, 2015, 07:45:07 PM
Quote from: markjo on August 02, 2015, 10:08:49 PM
No Tom, a candle illuminates an area, not a spot. Spots are small. The area illuminated by the sun is not small, especially when compared to the size of the FE sun.

If a foreigner circled their finger at an area of a map and said that they live in that spot, that they may be pointing at an entire country is not an incorrect usage of the word spot.
Yes, it is an incorrect usage of the word spot. An area is not a spot. A spot is a specific location. An area is a general region. Do you honestly not understand the distinction or do you just want to play the semantics game again?

A spot is a small mark. It may be a map of the galaxy pointing out the earth, but a spot is a spot. It matters not if it's a spot on your face, or a spot on a map. A spot may be a dimensionless point, or a circular area. A spotlight does not radiate a dimensionless point, but a circular area, a relatively small spot of light on a vast scenery. A spot is a spot, is a spot.

geckothegeek · « **Reply #9 on:** August 04, 2015, 02:36:11 AM »

A spotlight is a spotlight is a spotlight.
A spotlight shines in only one direction and its beam is in the form of a circle.

Answer to the question:
If the sun is a spotlight and shines down on the earth how is the moon illuminated ?

markjo · « **Reply #10 on:** August 04, 2015, 03:17:15 AM »

Quote from: Tom Bishop on August 03, 2015, 11:09:32 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 03, 2015, 10:30:15 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on August 03, 2015, 07:45:07 PM
Quote from: markjo on August 02, 2015, 10:08:49 PM
No Tom, a candle illuminates an area, not a spot. Spots are small. The area illuminated by the sun is not small, especially when compared to the size of the FE sun.

If a foreigner circled their finger at an area of a map and said that they live in that spot, that they may be pointing at an entire country is not an incorrect usage of the word spot.
Yes, it is an incorrect usage of the word spot. An area is not a spot. A spot is a specific location. An area is a general region. Do you honestly not understand the distinction or do you just want to play the semantics game again?

A spot is a small mark. It may be a map of the galaxy pointing out the earth, but a spot is a spot. It matters not if it's a spot on your face, or a spot on a map. A spot may be a dimensionless point, or a circular area. A spotlight does not radiate a dimensionless point, but a circular area, a relatively small spot of light on a vast scenery. A spot is a spot, is a spot.

Then you admit that a 32 mile diameter sun illuminating 1/2 of the known flat earth does not satisfy any reasonable definition of the word spot? Good. Glad to see that we're making progress.

Saddam Hussein · « **Reply #11 on:** August 04, 2015, 03:50:39 AM »

This is really nitpicky. Tom described the nature of the sun. It doesn't matter whether that technically qualifies as a spotlight or not.

jroa · « **Reply #12 on:** August 04, 2015, 06:54:34 AM »

Quote from: geckothegeek on August 04, 2015, 02:36:11 AM

A spotlight is a spotlight is a spotlight.
A spotlight shines in only one direction and its beam is in the form of a circle.

Answer to the question:
If the sun is a spotlight and shines down on the earth how is the moon illuminated ?

Nobody said the sun is a spotlight.

markjo · « **Reply #13 on:** August 04, 2015, 12:31:35 PM »

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on August 04, 2015, 03:50:39 AM

It doesn't matter whether that technically qualifies as a spotlight or not.

Then why does Tom so consistently argue that it does? Could it be that if the sun doesn't act as a spotlight, then that makes it that much harder to explain the FE day/night cycle if the sun is an omnidirectioal light source (which it obviously is)?

Tom Bishop · « **Reply #14 on:** August 04, 2015, 03:47:30 PM »

Actually, I did describe the sun as an omnidirectional light source:

Quote from: Tom Bishop on August 01, 2015, 08:19:03 PM

A spotlight shines light in one direction. The sun shines light in all directions, which is limited in its extent by the opacity of the atmosphere and certain limits to human perspective across a plane earth. Since the light does not propagate infinitely, due to the fact that the atmosphere is not perfectly transparent, its light is limited to a spot of light upon the plane earth. Hence, the sun is casting a spotlight without itself literally casting light in only one direction.

geckothegeek · « **Reply #15 on:** August 04, 2015, 05:46:03 PM »

Quote from: jroa on August 04, 2015, 06:54:34 AM

Quote from: geckothegeek on August 04, 2015, 02:36:11 AM
A spotlight is a spotlight is a spotlight.
A spotlight shines in only one direction and its beam is in the form of a circle.

Answer to the question:
If the sun is a spotlight and shines down on the earth how is the moon illuminated ?

Nobody said the sun is a spotlight.

It has been said "The sun acts like a spotlight." And therein lies the confusion from the flat earthers.

Of course the nature of the sun is well known in the real world. The sun is definitely neither a spotlight or even "acts like a spotlight." The sun shines in all directions.To the earth, to the moon, to the planets.

Tom Bishop · « **Reply #16 on:** August 04, 2015, 06:21:42 PM »

Quote from: geckothegeek on August 04, 2015, 05:46:03 PM

Quote from: jroa on August 04, 2015, 06:54:34 AM
Quote from: geckothegeek on August 04, 2015, 02:36:11 AM
A spotlight is a spotlight is a spotlight.
A spotlight shines in only one direction and its beam is in the form of a circle.

Answer to the question:
If the sun is a spotlight and shines down on the earth how is the moon illuminated ?

Nobody said the sun is a spotlight.

It has been said "The sun acts like a spotlight." And therein lies the confusion from the flat earthers.

Of course the nature of the sun is well known in the real world. The sun is definitely neither a spotlight or even "acts like a spotlight." The sun shines in all directions.To the earth, to the moon, to the planets.

Again, the sun does shine in all directions.

markjo · « **Reply #17 on:** August 04, 2015, 07:30:53 PM »

Quote from: Tom Bishop on August 04, 2015, 03:47:30 PM

Actually, I did describe the sun as an omnidirectional light source:

Quote from: Tom Bishop on August 01, 2015, 08:19:03 PM
Since the light does not propagate infinitely, due to the fact that the atmosphere is not perfectly transparent, its light is limited to a spot of light upon the plane earth. Hence, the sun is casting a spotlight without itself literally casting light in only one direction.

Omnidirectional light sources don't cast spotlights.

Tom Bishop · « **Reply #18 on:** August 04, 2015, 07:52:49 PM »

Quote from: markjo on August 04, 2015, 07:30:53 PM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on August 04, 2015, 03:47:30 PM
Actually, I did describe the sun as an omnidirectional light source:

Quote from: Tom Bishop on August 01, 2015, 08:19:03 PM
Since the light does not propagate infinitely, due to the fact that the atmosphere is not perfectly transparent, its light is limited to a spot of light upon the plane earth. Hence, the sun is casting a spotlight without itself literally casting light in only one direction.
Omnidirectional light sources don't cast spotlights.

Sure they do. Even in RET omnidirectional light sources cast a spot of light upon the earth's surface. A candle does not illuminate the entirety of the earth

geckothegeek · « **Reply #19 on:** August 04, 2015, 08:24:29 PM »

Quote from: Tom Bishop on August 04, 2015, 07:52:49 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 04, 2015, 07:30:53 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on August 04, 2015, 03:47:30 PM
Actually, I did describe the sun as an omnidirectional light source:

Quote from: Tom Bishop on August 01, 2015, 08:19:03 PM
Since the light does not propagate infinitely, due to the fact that the atmosphere is not perfectly transparent, its light is limited to a spot of light upon the plane earth. Hence, the sun is casting a spotlight without itself literally casting light in only one direction.
Omnidirectional light sources don't cast spotlights.

Sure they do. Even in RET omnidirectional light sources cast a spot of light upon the earth's surface. A candle does not illuminate the entirety of the earth

Tom Bishop just doesn't make sense.

Or maybe Tom Bishop can explain this. By the very definition ominidirectional is in all directions and a spotlight shines in only one direction or you could say it is unidirectional ? Still I have received no answer on how the moon is illuminated according to flat earth ~~theory~~ ?