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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Atheism vs. religion

« on: January 09, 2014, 06:55:39 AM »

If your parents would take offence to the fact that you're an atheist, then they're terrible parents and deserves to be offended.

Not everyone has open-minded parents, and he never said he hates his family so I imagine he doesn't want to get disowned.

Nah, I wouldn't be disowned, it would be more of everyone in the family giving me dirty looks at get togethers and the like. My sister admitted she wasn't religious to my parents, and now she's doing a weekly bible study with my dad. (Which I am not interested in doing, I wouldn't put it past my dad to try doing it over the phone while I'm at school) But for ultra religious parents, they honestly aren't that bad. I just don't see any need to rock the boat more than is necessary, so I lie about my religion.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Aether

« on: January 09, 2014, 02:44:14 AM »

The reason the wiki page on Aether is so awful is that I need to rewrite it, and I removed a lot of the outdated or incorrect information. Uninformed is better than misinformed.

The Aetheric Wind is, essentially, a current. The Earth is like a rock caught up in that current, getting pushed along and creating an eddy. That eddy is the Aetheric whirlpool. Its x-axis motion causes Coriolis Effect, and its z-axis movement causes local gravitation variation.

Okay cool, so you'll eventually be updating the wiki page?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Atheism vs. religion

« on: January 09, 2014, 02:40:32 AM »

I doubt I'm getting the positive effects. I'm currently at home with my parents over winter break, and I'm forced to go to church, as well as lie about the fact that I'm a Christian. I dread Sundays, honestly, and I have my whole life.

I bet if you stopped lying your stress level would go down.

Doubt it, saying I'm an atheist would make my parents and extended family see me in a bad light, to be putting it mildly. If anything, stress would be way up.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Aether

« on: January 09, 2014, 01:27:51 AM »

So I think I asked about this once before on the old site, but didn't get any satisfactory answers. I just checked the wiki, there's still next to nothing on the Aether page. So is there anyone that specifically knows a good deal on Aetheric Wind Theory and Aether in general? What is it, how is it formed, why do you think this theory is correct and so on.

Aether was first coined as a term in the 19th century and was believed to be a substance that permeated all space, including the area beyond the earth's atmoplane, and provided a medium through which waves of light, gravity, etc may travel.

More modern scientists tend to discount the idea of aether, but it remains in Flat Earth Theory and provides much of the same function as it originally did.

Aetheric Wind is the rising flow of aether swirling about the earth-disc due to Universal Acceleration.  The aether moves faster than the earth, and in some models it is actually the aetheric wind that causes the earth to accelerate upward.  UA is, of course, the force that gives rise to gravity, and as Aether propagates light, its motion upward also causes the curvature of light that causes us to perceive sunrise/sunset, as well as accounting for round-earth-esque phenomena such as certain observations of the sinking ship effect.

Also connected to Aetheric Wind is the idea of the Aetheric Whirlpool.  The idea here is that as the Aether rushes up around the disc of earth, it comes back together above us swirling in a great vortex, not entirely dissimilar to water in a drain.  It is this swirling motion that is though to give rise to the relative motions of the sun and moon, and also accounts for the fact that the sun moves faster in its orbit when it is closer to the edge of the disc, where it is inferred that the aetheric whirlpool spins faster, or at the very least has a more direct effect on the sun and moon.  Eddies in this aetheric whirlpool also account for discrepancies in things like sight distance and local gravity.

As for what it's made of, it's made of aether.  No one can say for sure how it is formed - Aether was the "dark matter" of the 19th century astronomer, you see, and still retains much of its mystery.

I have an aetheric wind model that I worked on quite a bit some time ago, and a brief outline of this idea can be found elsewhere in this forum.  In my model, the aetheric wind carries light from object below the earth, and is also responsible for the southern sky and southern celestial pole. 

I'm still developing the model because I think it works quite well as a disc model precisely because of how well it accounts for certain observations that others interpret as proof of a spherical earth, but speaking personally, my ideas about the shape of the earth have evolved, and I've come to subscribe to an infinite plane model in which celestial gears drive the movements of the heavens. 

Still, I can't deny that the aetheric models work.  One of the beautiful things about Flat Earth Theory, to me, is how diverse and varied it is.  I don't believe the Infinite Plane model is any more or less valid than the Aetheric Wind model, and support both (and several other) schools of thought. 

I believe Tausami also has done quite a bit of research on Aetheric wind and the Aetheric whirlpool, so perhaps he can chime in here as well.

So you think Aether accounts for the discrepancies in local gravity? If aether is only being pushed up around the edges of the earth, than how would areas closer to the north pole have these variances in gravity?

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Flat Earth Theory / Aether

« on: January 09, 2014, 12:22:51 AM »

So I think I asked about this once before on the old site, but didn't get any satisfactory answers. I just checked the wiki, there's still next to nothing on the Aether page. So is there anyone that specifically knows a good deal on Aetheric Wind Theory and Aether in general? What is it, how is it formed, why do you think this theory is correct and so on.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Satan comes to Oklahoma

« on: January 08, 2014, 10:49:42 PM »

According to the creators of Satan^TM, he is evil. Not that that is a good reason to not build statues of him, but when people ask for a statue of him, basically to make a statement, you cannot be surprised when it gets turned down.

Does Satanism promote anything that would be illegal in modern society? Murder, rape, theft, ect.?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Atheism vs. religion

« on: January 08, 2014, 10:48:38 PM »

I doubt I'm getting the positive effects. I'm currently at home with my parents over winter break, and I'm forced to go to church, as well as lie about the fact that I'm a Christian. I dread Sundays, honestly, and I have my whole life.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Mormonism & The Book of Mormon

« on: January 08, 2014, 04:03:54 AM »

The only thing I know about Mormonism is from South Park, so I doubt I can give a good opinion.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Satan comes to Oklahoma

« on: January 08, 2014, 04:00:29 AM »

Satanists are better Christians than most Christians are, imo. They should be excited to allow this monument to be set up.

I guess from a Christian perspective, Satanists are following what they're closer to. Humans are supposed to be inherently evil.

Satanism and Christianity are pretty similar. Satanism is strictly individualistic while Christianity is arguably collectivist, and Satanism is more accepting of violence, but the two religions have similar philosophies. Especially LaVeyan satanism.

I don't know a whole lot about Satanism, but isn't it just basically self worship almost? Like your birthday is the most important holiday, and you should do whatever you want?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Satan comes to Oklahoma

« on: January 08, 2014, 02:34:50 AM »

Satanists are better Christians than most Christians are, imo. They should be excited to allow this monument to be set up.

I guess from a Christian perspective, Satanists are following what they're closer to. Humans are supposed to be inherently evil.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Zetetic Council Election Thread.

« on: January 07, 2014, 01:55:15 PM »

Yeah man lets see some action PP

May I suggest a forum that anyone can participate in but is just for council chat? Might as well just edit the existing section.

it's called the lounge.

No, the council need one board to themselves to discuss things without dancing RErs looking to add objections for the sake of it. You can then discuss anything you see anywhere you like. But not there.

But would it still be a public board?

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: FES Book Club

« on: January 07, 2014, 01:31:50 PM »

Just finished reading The Dark Tower series by Stephen King. It amazed me how he went from such a great series to a very mediocre last book. Still probably worth reading though if you're into that kinda stuff.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Satan comes to Oklahoma

« on: January 07, 2014, 07:40:31 AM »

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/satanists-unveil-design-okla-capitol-monument-21440030

Satanists want to put a 7 foot statue of Baphomet in Oklahoma's Capitol. Unsurprisingly, people are not happy.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: My Simulation Hypothesis

« on: January 04, 2014, 06:15:15 AM »

Interesting idea, but do you think there's any way to gain concrete evidence of such a simulation, or would the creators likely be too smart for us to prove it for sure?

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Previous/next page buttons please

« on: January 01, 2014, 08:25:34 PM »

Looking at some of the threads in CN that are well over 10 pages, the new style really doesn't work well with those. As the site grows, there will be more threads that reach that length, so I don't really see it as a good permanent solution.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Religion and for-profit business

« on: December 27, 2013, 04:30:24 AM »

Scientology shouldn't even be classified as a religion, sadly it is.

Why not?

A parliamentary report classifies Scientology as a cult in France. They require a fee to join a religion, an absurd idea if I've ever heard one. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who speaks out against them they track down, follow, or otherwise attempt to discredit. They even went after the creators of South Park after they made fun of Scientology in an episode.

Here's the source for the South Park deal, let me know if you want any other ones.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/24/church-of-scientology-investigate-south-park_n_1027538.html

If you want more information on their exploits, just search "scientology controversies" on Wikipedia. If for some reason you don't trust Wikipedia, there's still over a hundred sources on the bottom of the page.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: For Discussion of Hollow Earth Theory, Geocentricity, etc

« on: December 24, 2013, 06:07:59 AM »

There's a lot that is compelling about geocentrism, I agree, but there's enough that I feel is more beautifully explained in a flat earth system that I ultimately keep going back to that.

Seriously?  Like what?  RE geocentrism (REG, for short) explains basic observations like sunrise/set, moonrise/set, solar and lunar eclipses, the seasons and even planetary motion far easier and more elegantly that FET ever could.  REG can even explain the sinking ship effect without resorting to unproven physics like bendy light.

Please, name one thing that FET explains better than REG.

Looking out your window, I suppose.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing (the Video Game Version)

« on: December 23, 2013, 07:48:02 AM »

Steam holiday sale, so I got Witcher 2 for 5 bucks and currently waiting for it to download.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What Religion are you?

« on: December 23, 2013, 01:59:58 AM »

The only reason I do it @ all is because it gives me great personal satisfaction to see him hoist himself on his own pitard. Every time he opens his yap & misspells something 6 ways from Saturday he makes himself look like an even bigger ass. It's entertaining to me to point that out. I have agreed to avoid 'low content' posts, so from now on I shall only notate his orthographical errors in the context of an otherwise content rich post. As much as I don't personally re: that as necessary or even desirable (since the content distracts from pointing out what an idiot he is), I recognise forum rules, & will follow them, even when I disagree w/ them.

I would rather you leave it out, to be honest. Not one member of the forum has stated their appreciation of it, or says that they find it amusing. In fact, everyone has repeatedly been responding to your posts asking you to stop. I'm starting to think you're the troll.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Proofs from EJ.

« on: December 22, 2013, 10:14:15 PM »

Guess you'll have to wait a month for it to expire, don't think it's permanent.