[secretagent10]

https://twitter.com/marsmissionimgs?s=21&t=LgeI5GohD13vGZcQBNUjoQ


This is a bot that automatically posts Mars rover images. They’re uploaded CONSTANTLY (10-15 minutes apart) all day every day.

Supposing they’re not actually photographs from Mars and faked here on earth, how would this be remotely possible?

Much of them depict landscape that doesn’t exist on earth, which could be explained as CG. But how are they making constant CG every few minutes all day every day? It takes weeks to produce a few frames of CG of this quality.

And why would they do it? The public isn’t even interested that much these days. Each one gets 0-2 likes. Why pay people to make fake Mars images every 10 minutes forever for no reason?

[Rushy]

If only there were some kind of image generating machine that could generate novel images constantly and output them on demand. Imagine if that were a thing, haha, that'd be pretty crazy.

[beardo]

Except these images are real.

[J-Man]

somewhere in saudi arabia

get the camel

[secretagent10]

somewhere in saudi arabia

get the camel

If only there were some kind of image generating machine that could generate novel images constantly and output them on demand

Which one?

J-Man, I’m not sure where the Saudi Arabia claim is coming from.

Rushy, Martian imagery predates AI images as we know it. In fact, it’s only in the last couple years or so that AI art became more than just mush. Also, there are fairly obvious tells even from the best AI image generation tools. They don’t hold up to close detail, they smudge, they turn text to gibberish, etc. The rover images are consistent between every picture and show the exact same tiny details of the rover, with all its symbols and text. AI does not do this.

[Rushy]

somewhere in saudi arabia

get the camel

If only there were some kind of image generating machine that could generate novel images constantly and output them on demand

Which one?

J-Man, I’m not sure where the Saudi Arabia claim is coming from.

Rushy, Martian imagery predates AI images as we know it. In fact, it’s only in the last couple years or so that AI art became more than just mush. Also, there are fairly obvious tells even from the best AI image generation tools. They don’t hold up to close detail, they smudge, they turn text to gibberish, etc. The rover images are consistent between every picture and show the exact same tiny details of the rover, with all its symbols and text. AI does not do this.

Just the last couple of years that publicly available systems reached a level that private systems were at a decade ago*

[Pete Svarrior]

It's a good thing we're talking about sharp, well-defined pictures with huge amounts of text text in them. Otherwise, secretagent69's comment might come across as irrelevant and desperate.

https://twitter.com/MarsMissionImgs/status/1608963315811905537

It's also a good thing it didn't accidentally find an ancient Sith lightsaber on Korriban. That really wouldn't fit the narrative.

https://twitter.com/MarsMissionImgs/status/1608980805199753216

[markjo]

It's also a good thing it didn't accidentally find an ancient Sith lightsaber on Korriban. That really wouldn't fit the narrative.

https://twitter.com/MarsMissionImgs/status/1608980805199753216

Meh.  Lightsaber, sample tube.  Same difference.
https://www.space.com/nasa-mars-perseverance-rover-sample-tubes-lightsabers

[Pete Svarrior]

Meh.  Lightsaber, sample tube.  Same difference.
https://www.space.com/nasa-mars-perseverance-rover-sample-tubes-lightsabers

But of course. As is typical of RE'ers, an ad-hoc explanation must be presented.

[GoldCashew]

It's also a good thing it didn't accidentally find an ancient Sith lightsaber on Korriban. That really wouldn't fit the narrative.

https://twitter.com/MarsMissionImgs/status/1608980805199753216

Meh.  Lightsaber, sample tube.  Same difference.
https://www.space.com/nasa-mars-perseverance-rover-sample-tubes-lightsabers

Looks like the NASA editing department forgot again to remove shiny objects from their filming studio landscapes, which are of course dead giveaways and evidence for a space travel conspiracy / Mars rover conspiracy.

   

[markjo]

Meh.  Lightsaber, sample tube.  Same difference.
https://www.space.com/nasa-mars-perseverance-rover-sample-tubes-lightsabers

But of course. As is typical of RE'ers, an ad-hoc explanation must be presented.

And, as typical of FE'ers, that explanation (no matter how reasonable) must be hand waved away.

[Pete Svarrior]

And, as typical of FE'ers, that explanation (no matter how reasonable) must be hand waved away.

Hand-waved? Not at all. It's just strange that a magical lightsaber showed up in these very legitimate photos, and its existence was only retconned in after people pointed out that it looked strange.

[markjo]

And, as typical of FE'ers, that explanation (no matter how reasonable) must be hand waved away.

Hand-waved? Not at all. It's just strange that a magical lightsaber showed up in these very legitimate photos, and its existence was only retconned in after people pointed out that it looked strange.

Or, maybe what's strange is that it's just an odd coincidence that the sample tubes bear a passing resemblance to a light saber.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/a-martian-roundtrip-nasas-perseverance-rover-sample-tubes

[Pete Svarrior]

Or, maybe what's strange is that it's just an odd coincidence that the sample tubes bear a passing resemblance to a light saber.

Ah, yes, now that there's a webpage on the Internet saying the same thing you've claimed, all doubt is out the window.

[GoldCashew]

And, as typical of FE'ers, that explanation (no matter how reasonable) must be hand waved away.

Hand-waved? Not at all. It's just strange that a magical lightsaber showed up in these very legitimate photos, and its existence was only retconned in after people pointed out that it looked strange.

As mentioned, it may not be that these magical lightsabers "showed up" in these photos...it may be that these objects were accidentally laying around the studio set when NASA were faking these Mars photos and so these objects ended up in the pictures; NASA editing department likely missed this and forgot to remove the objects from the studio set.

[markjo]

Or, maybe what's strange is that it's just an odd coincidence that the sample tubes bear a passing resemblance to a light saber.

Ah, yes, now that there's a webpage on the Internet saying the same thing you've claimed, all doubt is out the window.

Strange how that works, isn't it?

[Pete Svarrior]

Strange how that works, isn't it?

This is your second reminder that you've stumbled outside of AR and need to behave accordingly. There won't be a third.

[Rama Set]

And, as typical of FE'ers, that explanation (no matter how reasonable) must be hand waved away.

Hand-waved? Not at all. It's just strange that a magical lightsaber showed up in these very legitimate photos, and its existence was only retconned in after people pointed out that it looked strange.

Why are you so sad that NASA is protecting people from a Sith invasion?

[secretagent10]

It's a good thing we're talking about sharp, well-defined pictures with huge amounts of text text in them. Otherwise, secretagent69's comment might come across as irrelevant and desperate.

https://twitter.com/roversbot/status/1618126534564364288?s=46&t=_XvkxRgVIpbV7llA4zt7Sg

https://twitter.com/roversbot/status/1618051036203163648?s=46&t=_XvkxRgVIpbV7llA4zt7Sg

Yep. Sure is a good thing!
Reminder that these are constantly posted minutes apart 24/7.
If we’re suggesting it’s secret gubment AI, well we run into both the problem of the data set that would need to exist for this, as well as the logistics of such a thing being kept secret.

Not to mention - Rushy, if they had incredibly perfect AI that had been developed in secret for years, I assure you they wouldn’t use it for something as harmless as some rover pictures.

[secretagent10]

Why are you so sad that NASA is protecting people from a Sith invasion?

They’re choosing to believe that the sample return tube is this sudden unexpected thing that had to be quickly explained. The rover was known to be designed to do this for years.

Early publications regarding Perseverance explain in high detail the sample tubes.

Published on December 22, 2020:

“Made chiefly of titanium, each sample tube weighs less than 2 ounces (57 grams). A white exterior coating guards against heating by the Sun potentially changing the chemical composition of the samples after Perseverance deposits the tubes on the surface of Mars. Laser-etched serial numbers on the exterior will help the team identify the tubes and their content.”

Ah, yes, now that there's a webpage on the Internet saying the same thing you've claimed, all doubt is out the window.

The contention in this particular instance is not on the tubes themselves but the claim that they are “ad-hoc”.

But of course. As is typical of RE'ers, an ad-hoc explanation must be presented.

Suggesting that it’s just a sudden ad-hoc explanation suggests that the tubes are an expected artifact of the images to be explained, when this isn’t the case. It was already known what they look like since 2020.