[inquisitive]

Up is up and down is down and the globe theory requires different imaginings of those concepts. Those globe concepts are not readily experienced and are therefore an unemperical hypothesis in comparison

What concept is not experienced, in detail please.

[ScaryGary]

"Empiricism is a theory that states that knowledge comes only or primarily from sensory experience."
So he had a sensory experience of a ship falling from the underside of a globe?

I don't see that claim.

The idea that up is up and down is down is our human experience.

The globe concept of up and down is contradictory to this and, while "possible", is unemperical. The author is spot on to call out this absurdity.

Agree

[GiantTurtle]

If I see two spaceships fly towards each other at 0.9C my experience on earth would tell me that if I was on one of those ships I would see the other  approach at 1.8C would you say that is empirically correct?
I would say not as I have not experienced any situation close to it I have no empirical view to back that claim. On the other hand I do know of the existence of empirical evidence that light cannot pass you faster than the speed of light which backs the claim that I will not see the ship approach at 1.8C.

[Rama Set]

Up is up and down is down and the globe theory requires different imaginings of those concepts.

If up and down are experiential concepts then nothing need be reimagined, you just experience them. That’s the point of it being experiential, no abstraction is required.

You could say the same about us living in the Matrix. But imagining that things are some sort of illusion is not emperical.

Who is imagining an illusion? I understand that you disagree with how the RE works but surely you can see that your argument is specious at best? If gravity is real, and the Earth is an oblate spheroid, down in towards the center of gravity and up is away from it. Easily conceived and easily experienced.

If your argument ends up being “its wrong because it’s wrong” then you are not making an argument at all.

[StinkyOne]

Up is up and down is down and the globe theory requires different imaginings of those concepts. Those globe concepts are not readily experienced and are therefore an unemperical hypothesis in comparison

This is one of the reasons I called out the author as being wrong. It is laughably wrong. Grab a sphere and find the true top and bottom. There isn't one. The only reason you THINK there is one is because of gravity and the visual clues in the room around you. If you were blindfolded in an elevator that was accelerating downwards at twice the force of gravity, you would surmise that the ceiling is down because you would be standing on it. Down on the Earth is towards its core because of gravity.

Again, it points to the author's lack of understanding and his completely wrong analysis.

[Tom Bishop]

Up is up and down is down and the globe theory requires different imaginings of those concepts. Those globe concepts are not readily experienced and are therefore an unemperical hypothesis in comparison

This is one of the reasons I called out the author as being wrong. It is laughably wrong. Grab a sphere and find the true top and bottom. There isn't one. The only reason you THINK there is one is because of gravity and the visual clues in the room around you. If you were blindfolded in an elevator that was accelerating downwards at twice the force of gravity, you would surmise that the ceiling is down because you would be standing on it. Down on the Earth is towards its core because of gravity.

Again, it points to the author's lack of understanding and his completely wrong analysis.

You are trying to convince us of an illusion. The case is pretty clear.

[inquisitive]

Up is up and down is down and the globe theory requires different imaginings of those concepts. Those globe concepts are not readily experienced and are therefore an unemperical hypothesis in comparison

This is one of the reasons I called out the author as being wrong. It is laughably wrong. Grab a sphere and find the true top and bottom. There isn't one. The only reason you THINK there is one is because of gravity and the visual clues in the room around you. If you were blindfolded in an elevator that was accelerating downwards at twice the force of gravity, you would surmise that the ceiling is down because you would be standing on it. Down on the Earth is towards its core because of gravity.

Again, it points to the author's lack of understanding and his completely wrong analysis.

You are trying to convince us of an illusion. The case is pretty clear.

What case is clear?  timeanddate.com provides evidence for you of a round earth as does simply seeing the sun rise and set at different places.

www.planet.com may interest you.

[Rama Set]

Up is up and down is down and the globe theory requires different imaginings of those concepts. Those globe concepts are not readily experienced and are therefore an unemperical hypothesis in comparison

This is one of the reasons I called out the author as being wrong. It is laughably wrong. Grab a sphere and find the true top and bottom. There isn't one. The only reason you THINK there is one is because of gravity and the visual clues in the room around you. If you were blindfolded in an elevator that was accelerating downwards at twice the force of gravity, you would surmise that the ceiling is down because you would be standing on it. Down on the Earth is towards its core because of gravity.

Again, it points to the author's lack of understanding and his completely wrong analysis.

You are trying to convince us of an illusion. The case is pretty clear.

It seems you have a different understanding of what an illusion is than most. What exactly do you think an illusion is?

[StinkyOne]

Up is up and down is down and the globe theory requires different imaginings of those concepts. Those globe concepts are not readily experienced and are therefore an unemperical hypothesis in comparison

This is one of the reasons I called out the author as being wrong. It is laughably wrong. Grab a sphere and find the true top and bottom. There isn't one. The only reason you THINK there is one is because of gravity and the visual clues in the room around you. If you were blindfolded in an elevator that was accelerating downwards at twice the force of gravity, you would surmise that the ceiling is down because you would be standing on it. Down on the Earth is towards its core because of gravity.

Again, it points to the author's lack of understanding and his completely wrong analysis.

You are trying to convince us of an illusion. The case is pretty clear.

Care to elaborate on what you mean, because it is clear by the responses no one understands what you mean. Do you now understand the role your senses play in creating up and down when related to the world as a whole?