The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Theory => Topic started by: StinkyOne on August 17, 2017, 01:00:03 AM
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Why do private companies spend millions of dollars to launch satellites into space if you can't get into space? Why are there private companies providing these services? Is everyone in on the conspiracy and are REALLY good at keeping secrets??
Another question - how does satellite radio work? I can drive anywhere and never lose the signal. (provided I have line of sight to the sky) I wish my cell phone was half as good. Why would a private company claim to be satellite radio if it isn't possible??? Again, in on the conspiracy?
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StinkyOne, every human has been brainwashed throughout life and will be to death. And the workers of private companies, who launch satellites into space, are no exception!
I think loosely for now, that reptilian/insectoid shapeshifters have infiltrated society to such a big extent: you might be having sex with a woman/man, and she/he could be a non-human being!
Their lying is multi-layered to protect themselves from disclosure as much as possible. Every of these beings knows human psychology more than any smartest human psychologist on earth would do. They know a lot about us, they study us tremendously, and they know how to exploit us smartly for their purposes:
* very advanced social engineering.
* advanced body language
* etc
You might be having reptilians in your family with whom you grew up. I do have 2-3 of them, as i think and as i notice similar to reptiles behavior in them. Or i just made myself believe in that, i'm not sure...
I can drive anywhere and never lose the signal. (provided I have line of sight to the sky) I wish my cell phone was half as good. Why would a private company claim to be satellite radio if it isn't possible???
Some companies disguise cell towers as trees (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cell+tower+tree+disguise), or is it government agencies?
BUT of course, these are just my crazy assumptions, i might be wrong! Correct me, but don't just call me stupid or crazy.
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StinkyOne, every human has been brainwashed throughout life and will be to death. And the workers of private companies, who launch satellites into space, are no exception!
I think loosely for now, that reptilian/insectoid shapeshifters have infiltrated society to such a big extent: you might be having sex with a woman/man, and she/he could be a non-human being!
Their lying is multi-layered to protect themselves from disclosure as much as possible. Every of these beings knows human psychology more than any smartest human psychologist on earth would do. They know a lot about us, they study us tremendously, and they know how to exploit us smartly for their purposes:
* very advanced social engineering.
* advanced body language
* etc
You might be having reptilians in your family with whom you grew up. I do have 2-3 of them, as i think and as i notice similar to reptiles behavior in them. Or i just made myself believe in that, i'm not sure...
Some companies disguise cell towers as trees (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cell+tower+tree+disguise), or is it government agencies?
BUT of course, these are just my crazy assumptions, i might be wrong! Correct me, but don't just call me stupid or crazy.
Reptilians/Insectoids, huh. Your description of them reads like a parody.
Reptiles and insects evolved here, on Earth. Neither of them have any ability to shape-shift, and neither of them could get as large as humans and still stand on their hind legs.
You're saying that they can transform to human forms and be completely imperceptible (or nearly so, since you and the people you follow can distinguish them). What about having a birth certificate? What about getting blood drawn? Wouldn't medical personnel be able to tell that they aren't human?
And you're saying that not only do they blend in with human society perfectly, but they also control every aspect of it. How? Why? This is all very ridiculous.
I won't call you crazy, as per your request, but have you ever actually thought critically about what you're claiming?
As for disguising cell towers as trees, they do this to be less disruptive to people and wildlife. They don't put that much effort into it, and it's easy to tell them from a real tree, but they stick out less. I don't see what that has to do with anything, though.
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Neither of them have any ability to shape-shift, and neither of them could get as large as humans and still stand on their hind legs.
Even i'm not sure whether this hypothesis is real or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0IZWGoMLYA
I disagree with the part that says about reptilians being entities, i think they're physical beings, but, of course, the could be both, or i might be wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XFXe3liL-8
There is a category of youtube videos called gangstalking, and in fact the stalkers are reptilian beings.
There are many people who claim existence of highly-developed reptiles, the most notorious and influential is David Icke (http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/768800/David-Icke-queen-shape-shifting-lizard). He wrote some books and gave many lectures on reptilians. Less famous ukrainian conspiracy theorist Vyacheslav Kotlyarov (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0fbdkEwsR9RQRWPGHGONlA/playlists) extends David Icke's theory and tells about historical part of our hidden enslavement by reptilian/insectoid/etc beings.
The classical examples in usage would be taking literally part about the aliens in movies like They Live (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI8AMRbqY6w) and Invasion of the Body snatchers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCmpaaB6pwk).
Shapeshifting is a technological(holographic) or less possible psychokinetical(yes, i do believe in psychokinesis!) ability reptilian/insectoid beings have mastered enough to be extremely indistinguishable from humans.They are able to emulate every little aspect of anatomy, behaviour, psychology, etc, because they have probably been deeply studying us and still study for a very long time. I myself very curious of how reptilians/insectoids fake everything!
Yet sometimes their "cloak" misbehaves and shows true form: uncontrollable tongue flickering, skin "texture rambling", teeth enlargement, body distortions, - in such situations few reptilians/insectoids may start panicking and use vast variety of methods to hide the failure and keep trust/belief of the humans. Every one of them is trained, better than CIA, FBI and any government agencies methods multipled by million times, to handle any possible situations of disclosure.
These beings are the ones who hide under the illuminati, freemasons, the skull and bones, builderberg and in control of the world via these "proxy-shields". It's not hard at all for them to create, implant into family, society, and sustain every single fake identity, because they work together and/or strictly hierarchically(especially insectoids).
People who has awakened, whether they realize it or not, are able to feel internally the oddness of fake humans.
Why do it?
The motives are to
* exploit our godly potential: Imagine, that we could be for them as hardware for the voracious gamers.
* get the most juice of life, produce, by constantly stimulating us, as much negative energy(pain, anger, depression, sadness) as possible for infernal astral beings, which love consuming very much.
* always rule the world, without any possible rivals to take the authority over, avoiding karma and other dangerous for them "balancing" subsystems" by hiding things in plain sight(subliminal messages).
* have constant pleasure stimulation by playing with us as dolls from dangerous(warfare) to simple(family structure) games. To have pleasure from realization of their actions over us.
* To possibly study us as children study dead frogs in schools at lessons.
And it's not all!
* to least possibly eat our meat as a delicate meal, and drink our blood as juice. Although it's possible!
So "they" are, i think, combination of both malevolent(male+violent...) conscious aliens, not caring at all beings and astral infernal beings.
I don't see what that has to do with anything, though.
The more cell towers will be deployed the more radiation and cancerous, if they exist, diseases, vibrational attacks we will get.
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*something something infernal astral CIA awakened shapeshifter reptilians*
Umm. Okay.
Do you have any conclusive evidence for that?
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None of this reptile nonsense even relates to my question, which no FEer can explain. If you think there are alien shape shifters controlling the world, get help for your mental condition before you become a danger to yourself or others. Fact is, while there are almost certainly other life forms in our galaxy, none of them are here controlling our world. We are alone on this rock, separated from any other world by distances so vast as to be insurmountable. Humans haven't even been making our presence known for long enough to be detected by many civilizations, let alone any advanced enough to travel here in a short time period. (with the ability to shape shift, lol. This is high school level daydreaming)
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*something something infernal astral CIA awakened shapeshifter reptilians*
Umm. Okay.
Do you have any conclusive evidence for that?
The reptilian shape shifter videos are hilarious. They take the video artifacts caused by compression as proof of scary lizard aliens. Oh look a blob of pixels changed, must be an alien lizard.
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Why do private companies spend millions of dollars to launch satellites into space if you can't get into space? Why are there private companies providing these services? Is everyone in on the conspiracy and are REALLY good at keeping secrets??
Another question - how does satellite radio work? I can drive anywhere and never lose the signal. (provided I have line of sight to the sky) I wish my cell phone was half as good. Why would a private company claim to be satellite radio if it isn't possible??? Again, in on the conspiracy?
Just 17 years ago very few knew how to compress digital packets to send voice thru and over the internet without jitter or packet loss.
Hmmm maybe you pay the price of fake satellitetry, to understand how to bounce info off the dome? Oh and we have kill switch gear so all your customers loose connection forever and you get sued if you speak of the dome. Besides all these hooyahs on flatearth site will call you crazy.....
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You might be having reptilians in your family with whom you grew up. I do have 2-3 of them, as i think and as i notice similar to reptiles behavior in them. Or i just made myself believe in that, i'm not sure...
I can state unequivocally that I have a few reptiles in my family and among my circle of acquaintances. They're out there!
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All this nonsense about reptile shape shifters and imaginary domes and still not a single flat Earther has touched my original question!
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All this nonsense about reptile shape shifters and imaginary domes and still not a single flat Earther has touched my original question!
Ah, satellites are launched into the sky via rockets dude. Or previously in the cargo hold of the space shuttles. Now we can argue if a satellite was really in a rocket or in the shuttle but the facts are, you ain't never seen one but you believe NASA.....
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Why not have communication systems tethered to balloons or in aircraft circling above? Who needs satellites other than making several million off unsuspecting clients.
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Lets not forget chemtrails and there many uses. They are metallic nano particles that can stay aloft for more than a month.
Not only does it dumb down society with the barium and aluminum oxide, its used for a communication reflector, radar assistance, HAAP reflector, weather modifier and dome masking agent.
Satellites are not real, they aren't in any cargo holds that always tip over sideways and plop in the oceans. No rockets go up, they all have to limp over due to crashing into the dome otherwise and give up the ghost.
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Satellites are always falling back to earth, no propulsion, falling falling falling perfectly timed with gravity and the earths rotation, amazing amazing.
Some satellites are 50,000 miles high, NO that's not a typo but we still can't get just a couple pictures of the whole planet earth. Just a Polaroid moment.
Total FAKERY !
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Satellites are always falling back to earth, no propulsion, falling falling falling perfectly timed with gravity and the earths rotation, amazing amazing.
Some satellites are 50,000 miles high, NO that's not a typo but we still can't get just a couple pictures of the whole planet earth. Just a Polaroid moment.
Total FAKERY !
But we have lots of pictures of the Earth from space. Are you ok? Do you need to talk or something?
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That eye crying thing by the football player was really weird. :'(
I'm not saying its supernatural but does anyone have an explanation for that?
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That eye crying thing by the football player was really weird. :'(
I'm not saying its supernatural but does anyone have an explanation for that?
Dither, there will only be cover-up explanations like problem after plastic surgery, hormonal problems, etc - lies.
This person on the video is a non-human - it's a shapeshifting being!
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Why not have communication systems tethered to balloons or in aircraft circling above? Who needs satellites other than making several million off unsuspecting clients.
Herein lies the heart of my question - WHY???? I get cable tv from a cable that runs underground. The cable companies make billions off of clients that don't care how their favorites shows make it to their TVs. There is no need to claim something is using a satellite if it isn't!!
As far as tethered balloons or circling aircraft - there aren't any. They would be all over.
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Satellites are always falling back to earth, no propulsion, falling falling falling perfectly timed with gravity and the earths rotation, amazing amazing.
Some satellites are 50,000 miles high, NO that's not a typo but we still can't get just a couple pictures of the whole planet earth. Just a Polaroid moment.
Total FAKERY !
No propulsion???? I've seen rocket launches, PLENTY of propulsion. Also, large satellites do need boosts from time to time. Think space station. There are pics of the whole planet. I have a telescope. I've seen Jupiter and it's moons. I've seen Saturn and it's rings. There is no dome. There is no proof or evidence of any kind for a dome. This is utter idiocy.
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All this nonsense about reptile shape shifters and imaginary domes and still not a single flat Earther has touched my original question!
Ah, satellites are launched into the sky via rockets dude. Or previously in the cargo hold of the space shuttles. Now we can argue if a satellite was really in a rocket or in the shuttle but the facts are, you ain't never seen one but you believe NASA.....
You "ain't never seen" a man walk on water or raise the dead but you believe in a 2000-year-old Jewish zombie that was his own father...
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All this nonsense about reptile shape shifters and imaginary domes and still not a single flat Earther has touched my original question!
Ah, satellites are launched into the sky via rockets dude. Or previously in the cargo hold of the space shuttles. Now we can argue if a satellite was really in a rocket or in the shuttle but the facts are, you ain't never seen one but you believe NASA.....
You "ain't never seen" a man walk on water or raise the dead but you believe in a 2000-year-old Jewish zombie that was his own father...
“The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.” ― Nikola Tesla
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Why not have communication systems tethered to balloons or in aircraft circling above? Who needs satellites other than making several million off unsuspecting clients.
Herein lies the heart of my question - WHY???? I get cable tv from a cable that runs underground. The cable companies make billions off of clients that don't care how their favorites shows make it to their TVs. There is no need to claim something is using a satellite if it isn't!!
As far as tethered balloons or circling aircraft - there aren't any. They would be all over.
I have a feeling you walk around with your head down most the time, like a sad very sad puppy.
Approx. 657,000 weather balloons are released every single year. (corrected year not day)
https://www.weather.gov/bmx/kidscorner_weatherballoons
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All this nonsense about reptile shape shifters and imaginary domes and still not a single flat Earther has touched my original question!
Ah, satellites are launched into the sky via rockets dude. Or previously in the cargo hold of the space shuttles. Now we can argue if a satellite was really in a rocket or in the shuttle but the facts are, you ain't never seen one but you believe NASA.....
You "ain't never seen" a man walk on water or raise the dead but you believe in a 2000-year-old Jewish zombie that was his own father...
“The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.” ― Nikola Tesla
"There is no conflict between the ideal of religion and the ideal of science, but science is opposed to theological dogmas because science is founded on fact. To me, the universe is simply a great machine which never came into being and never will end. The human being is no exception to the natural order. Man, like the universe, is a machine. Nothing enters our minds or determines our actions which is not directly or indirectly a response to stimuli beating upon our sense organs from without.” - Nikola Tesla
Contextless quotes are quite pretty aren't they?
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Why not have communication systems tethered to balloons or in aircraft circling above? Who needs satellites other than making several million off unsuspecting clients.
Herein lies the heart of my question - WHY???? I get cable tv from a cable that runs underground. The cable companies make billions off of clients that don't care how their favorites shows make it to their TVs. There is no need to claim something is using a satellite if it isn't!!
As far as tethered balloons or circling aircraft - there aren't any. They would be all over.
I have a feeling you walk around with your head down most the time, like a sad very sad puppy.
Approx. 657,000 weather balloons are released every single year. (corrected year not day)
https://www.weather.gov/bmx/kidscorner_weatherballoons
I have a feeling you don't know what the word tethered means. Weather balloons are not tethered and would not be horribly useful for broadcasting TV.
It's amazing what kind of images a father and son can get with a camera and a weather balloon. Look at the beautiful curve of our globe.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2649692/Thats-world-Homemade-helium-space-balloon-captures-breathtaking-images-Scottish-highlands.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2649692/Thats-world-Homemade-helium-space-balloon-captures-breathtaking-images-Scottish-highlands.html)
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Why not have communication systems tethered to balloons or in aircraft circling above? Who needs satellites other than making several million off unsuspecting clients.
Herein lies the heart of my question - WHY???? I get cable tv from a cable that runs underground. The cable companies make billions off of clients that don't care how their favorites shows make it to their TVs. There is no need to claim something is using a satellite if it isn't!!
As far as tethered balloons or circling aircraft - there aren't any. They would be all over.
I have a feeling you walk around with your head down most the time, like a sad very sad puppy.
Approx. 657,000 weather balloons are released every single year. (corrected year not day)
https://www.weather.gov/bmx/kidscorner_weatherballoons
I have a feeling you don't know what the word tethered means. Weather balloons are not tethered and would not be horribly useful for broadcasting TV.
It's amazing what kind of images a father and son can get with a camera and a weather balloon. Look at the beautiful curve of our globe.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2649692/Thats-world-Homemade-helium-space-balloon-captures-breathtaking-images-Scottish-highlands.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2649692/Thats-world-Homemade-helium-space-balloon-captures-breathtaking-images-Scottish-highlands.html)
Amazing how the curvature doesn't show up at low altitudes. Hmmm.
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Why not have communication systems tethered to balloons or in aircraft circling above? Who needs satellites other than making several million off unsuspecting clients.
Herein lies the heart of my question - WHY???? I get cable tv from a cable that runs underground. The cable companies make billions off of clients that don't care how their favorites shows make it to their TVs. There is no need to claim something is using a satellite if it isn't!!
As far as tethered balloons or circling aircraft - there aren't any. They would be all over.
I have a feeling you walk around with your head down most the time, like a sad very sad puppy.
Approx. 657,000 weather balloons are released every single year. (corrected year not day)
https://www.weather.gov/bmx/kidscorner_weatherballoons
I have a feeling you don't know what the word tethered means. Weather balloons are not tethered and would not be horribly useful for broadcasting TV.
It's amazing what kind of images a father and son can get with a camera and a weather balloon. Look at the beautiful curve of our globe.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2649692/Thats-world-Homemade-helium-space-balloon-captures-breathtaking-images-Scottish-highlands.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2649692/Thats-world-Homemade-helium-space-balloon-captures-breathtaking-images-Scottish-highlands.html)
It's a fisheye lens, you can tell by just watching their video as the horizon inverts.
You can tether equipment to a balloon.
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Why not have communication systems tethered to balloons or in aircraft circling above? Who needs satellites other than making several million off unsuspecting clients.
Herein lies the heart of my question - WHY???? I get cable tv from a cable that runs underground. The cable companies make billions off of clients that don't care how their favorites shows make it to their TVs. There is no need to claim something is using a satellite if it isn't!!
As far as tethered balloons or circling aircraft - there aren't any. They would be all over.
I have a feeling you walk around with your head down most the time, like a sad very sad puppy.
Approx. 657,000 weather balloons are released every single year. (corrected year not day)
https://www.weather.gov/bmx/kidscorner_weatherballoons
I have a feeling you don't know what the word tethered means. Weather balloons are not tethered and would not be horribly useful for broadcasting TV.
It's amazing what kind of images a father and son can get with a camera and a weather balloon. Look at the beautiful curve of our globe.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2649692/Thats-world-Homemade-helium-space-balloon-captures-breathtaking-images-Scottish-highlands.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2649692/Thats-world-Homemade-helium-space-balloon-captures-breathtaking-images-Scottish-highlands.html)
It's a fisheye lens, you can tell by just watching their video as the horizon inverts.
You can tether equipment to a balloon.
Nice try on the tethered balloon comment, but we both know what you meant.
These are fisheye lens photos. Notice how it distorts EVERYTHING in the image. You don't see that in the stills from the video or the video itself. Isn't it odd that all the pics you see from space show a round Earth. Even those done by amateurs. Not every camera in the world is a fisheye.
(https://i0.wp.com/digital-photography-school.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Yankees.jpg?resize=600%2C400&ssl=1)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71-BHQT0LhL._SL1000_.jpg)
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Sorry Stink but the video clearly shows the horizon inverting. That's a tweeker lens.
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Sorry Stink but the video clearly shows the horizon inverting. That's a tweeker lens.
Only when the camera flipped, it showed a flat horizon low and a curved one higher up. Not fisheye or "tweeker".
70k feet in a U2. Notice the lack of bowing of the wing, notice the straight bridges, the straight roads - there is no distortion of the details and yet that horizon is clearly an arc.
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/in-sight/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2015/05/20100722_U2HighFlight_0959-2130x1598.jpg&w=1484)
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That's not a very good picture to make your point. Both the cloud section and unobstructed horizon both look flat when measured individually.
I'm tossing that photo out, also there is damage to the plexiglass window at the top.
Try again
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Sorry Stink but the video clearly shows the horizon inverting. That's a tweeker lens.
Only when the camera flipped, it showed a flat horizon low and a curved one higher up. Not fisheye or "tweeker".
70k feet in a U2. Notice the lack of bowing of the wing, notice the straight bridges, the straight roads - there is no distortion of the details and yet that horizon is clearly an arc.
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/in-sight/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2015/05/20100722_U2HighFlight_0959-2130x1598.jpg&w=1484)
There's still distortion, likely from the window/fuselage. Sorry, friend, but even in RET the curvature wouldn't be that evident at a mere 70K feet.
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LOL, damage to the plexiglass, but no distortion in the pic. People see what they want. We have thousands and thousands of pics and yet not one shows a world surrounded by an ice wall. Not one shows the edge of the would against some mystical plane of imaginary whatever. Nothing to indicate the world as flat, and yet you guys argue about distortion. I thought all these photos were faked by NASA. I guess that isn't an option anymore since anyone with some cash and a little tech savvy can see the Earth's curvature. Gotta come up with a new reason, so the cameras are distorted.
What do you FEers think about the space tourists that Russia flew to the ISS?? Did they hallucinate or something???
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LOL, damage to the plexiglass, but no distortion in the pic. People see what they want. We have thousands and thousands of pics and yet not one shows a world surrounded by an ice wall. Not one shows the edge of the would against some mystical plane of imaginary whatever. Nothing to indicate the world as flat, and yet you guys argue about distortion. I thought all these photos were faked by NASA. I guess that isn't an option anymore since anyone with some cash and a little tech savvy can see the Earth's curvature. Gotta come up with a new reason, so the cameras are distorted.
What do you FEers think about the space tourists that Russia flew to the ISS?? Did they hallucinate or something???
Nice rant, but the picture is still distorted. You simply won't get that pronounced curvature at 70K feet in RET.
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LOL, damage to the plexiglass, but no distortion in the pic. People see what they want. We have thousands and thousands of pics and yet not one shows a world surrounded by an ice wall. Not one shows the edge of the would against some mystical plane of imaginary whatever. Nothing to indicate the world as flat, and yet you guys argue about distortion. I thought all these photos were faked by NASA. I guess that isn't an option anymore since anyone with some cash and a little tech savvy can see the Earth's curvature. Gotta come up with a new reason, so the cameras are distorted.
What do you FEers think about the space tourists that Russia flew to the ISS?? Did they hallucinate or something???
Nice rant, but the picture is still distorted. You simply won't get that pronounced curvature at 70K feet in RET.
Sigh, ignore the meat and stick with the fluff. Where is your ice wall? What about the laypeople who have been to the ISS??? None of the flat Earth stuff is there, the wing and ground objects show no distortion, but yet you say it's there. It has to be right? The Earth can't be round. I'm not entirely ranting, I'm bringing up very obvious deficiencies and no one on the FE side will touch them because they can't. Look, there is no grand conspiracy. NASA does launch rockets into space, as do private companies and other nations.
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LOL, damage to the plexiglass, but no distortion in the pic. People see what they want. We have thousands and thousands of pics and yet not one shows a world surrounded by an ice wall. Not one shows the edge of the would against some mystical plane of imaginary whatever. Nothing to indicate the world as flat, and yet you guys argue about distortion. I thought all these photos were faked by NASA. I guess that isn't an option anymore since anyone with some cash and a little tech savvy can see the Earth's curvature. Gotta come up with a new reason, so the cameras are distorted.
What do you FEers think about the space tourists that Russia flew to the ISS?? Did they hallucinate or something???
Nice rant, but the picture is still distorted. You simply won't get that pronounced curvature at 70K feet in RET.
Sigh, ignore the meat and stick with the fluff. Where is your ice wall? What about the laypeople who have been to the ISS??? None of the flat Earth stuff is there, the wing and ground objects show no distortion, but yet you say it's there. It has to be right? The Earth can't be round. I'm not entirely ranting, I'm bringing up very obvious deficiencies and no one on the FE side will touch them because they can't. Look, there is no grand conspiracy. NASA does launch rockets into space, as do private companies and other nations.
You are right in that you are not entirely ranting. You are also deflecting. No worries, it is a common trait of round earth logicians.
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LOL, damage to the plexiglass, but no distortion in the pic. People see what they want. We have thousands and thousands of pics and yet not one shows a world surrounded by an ice wall. Not one shows the edge of the would against some mystical plane of imaginary whatever. Nothing to indicate the world as flat, and yet you guys argue about distortion. I thought all these photos were faked by NASA. I guess that isn't an option anymore since anyone with some cash and a little tech savvy can see the Earth's curvature. Gotta come up with a new reason, so the cameras are distorted.
What do you FEers think about the space tourists that Russia flew to the ISS?? Did they hallucinate or something???
Nice rant, but the picture is still distorted. You simply won't get that pronounced curvature at 70K feet in RET.
Sigh, ignore the meat and stick with the fluff. Where is your ice wall? What about the laypeople who have been to the ISS??? None of the flat Earth stuff is there, the wing and ground objects show no distortion, but yet you say it's there. It has to be right? The Earth can't be round. I'm not entirely ranting, I'm bringing up very obvious deficiencies and no one on the FE side will touch them because they can't. Look, there is no grand conspiracy. NASA does launch rockets into space, as do private companies and other nations.
You are right in that you are not entirely ranting. You are also deflecting. No worries, it is a common trait of round earth logicians.
Let's try this - that pic is super deformed. That is totally a flat Earth. Where is your ice wall and what about the space tourism?
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Sorry Stink but the video clearly shows the horizon inverting. That's a tweeker lens.
Only when the camera flipped, it showed a flat horizon low and a curved one higher up. Not fisheye or "tweeker".
70k feet in a U2. Notice the lack of bowing of the wing, notice the straight bridges, the straight roads - there is no distortion of the details and yet that horizon is clearly an arc.
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/in-sight/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2015/05/20100722_U2HighFlight_0959-2130x1598.jpg&w=1484)
There's still distortion, likely from the window/fuselage. Sorry, friend, but even in RET the curvature wouldn't be that evident at a mere 70K feet.
Wrong. Here is a control picture of a U2 and the one with the curvature. The shape of the wing matches. If there was lens distortion it would show up in the wing and well as the bridge at the lower edge. The wing is a straight edge out to almost the end where it curves in, matching the control.
There is obviously no curvilinear distortion in the control since the roads are straight lines.
This proves the curvature is visible.
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This proves the curvature is visible.
To be clear, that is what you think curvature at 70K feet with that FoV would actually look like?
I thought you folks actually had even a slight understanding of the RE model. Oh well, I guess I will leave you to it...
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This proves the curvature is visible.
To be clear, that is what you think curvature at 70K feet with that FoV would actually look like?
I thought you folks actually had even a slight understanding of the RE model. Oh well, I guess I will leave you to it...
I'm still trying to understand the FE model. None of it's supporters seem to even have a coherent idea of what it is. The image clearly has no distortion as shown by the numerous straight lines and yet the horizon is curved. I'm guessing the ice wall is right over the horizon in that pic. I wonder if that plane crashed into the dome?
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This proves the curvature is visible.
To be clear, that is what you think curvature at 70K feet with that FoV would actually look like?
I thought you folks actually had even a slight understanding of the RE model. Oh well, I guess I will leave you to it...
Like most people, I have not been to 70k feet. But I have a working knowledge of lenses and distortion and have several times spoken out about the distortion in pics posted where it was obvious. I also assumed you had a basic knowledge of distortion since you claimed you saw it. I notice you yet again ignored the proof that you were wrong and chose to insult instead. Cute.
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Like most people, I have not been to 70k feet. But I have a working knowledge of lenses and distortion and have several times spoken out about the distortion in pics posted where it was obvious. I also assumed you had a basic knowledge of distortion since you claimed you saw it. I notice you yet again ignored the proof that you were wrong and chose to insult instead. Cute.
And I see you ignored my question, so I suppose that makes us even.
I just want to know if you really think that is what the curvature would look like at 70K feet assuming the accepted round earth radius/diameter.
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Like most people, I have not been to 70k feet. But I have a working knowledge of lenses and distortion and have several times spoken out about the distortion in pics posted where it was obvious. I also assumed you had a basic knowledge of distortion since you claimed you saw it. I notice you yet again ignored the proof that you were wrong and chose to insult instead. Cute.
And I see you ignored my question, so I suppose that makes us even.
I just want to know if you really think that is what the curvature would look like at 70K feet assuming the accepted round earth radius/diameter.
Yes, I believe that is the amount of curvature that would be seen. I've reviewed other photos at similar altitudes and they show comparable curvature. It is hard to say for sure though. It depends on the amount of land being photographed. The wider the shot, the more curve you'll see.
SO, ice wall?? Space tourists??
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Yes, I believe that is the amount of curvature that would be seen. I've reviewed other photos at similar altitudes and they show comparable curvature.
Interesting. Because I've seen alleged ISS photos with a similar FoV showing similar or less curvature. Glad to know there isn't a difference between 70K feet and over a million feet to you... ::)
SO, ice wall?? Space tourists??
What about either of those topics?
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Yes, I believe that is the amount of curvature that would be seen. I've reviewed other photos at similar altitudes and they show comparable curvature.
Interesting. Because I've seen alleged IIS photos with a similar FoV showing similar or less curvature. Glad to know there isn't a difference between 70K feet and over a million feet to you... ::)
SO, ice wall?? Space tourists??
What about either of those topics?
NASAs photos are fake, remember?
Where is the ice wall that surrounds the flat Earth in the photo and what about the space tourist Russia sent to the ISS?? They went up, how did the conspirators trick them into thinking they were in space?
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NASAs photos are fake, remember?
Oh, well that is good to know I guess.
Where is the ice wall that surrounds the flat Earth in the photo and what about the space tourist Russia sent to the ISS?? They went up, how did the conspirators trick them into thinking they were in space?
1) Why would there be an ice wall?
2) If there was an ice wall, why would it need to be in that photo?
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NASAs photos are fake, remember?
Oh, well that is good to know I guess.
Where is the ice wall that surrounds the flat Earth in the photo and what about the space tourist Russia sent to the ISS?? They went up, how did the conspirators trick them into thinking they were in space?
1) Why would there be an ice wall?
2) If there was an ice wall, why would it need to be in that photo?
One FE theory is that there is an ice wall or continent surrounding the Earth. It's in your Wiki. If the Earth is flat, and the curve is merely a distortion, you are seeing the end of the world and beyond. Pesky thing a flat Earth, there are no horizons to hide behind once you get high up.
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Like most people, I have not been to 70k feet. But I have a working knowledge of lenses and distortion and have several times spoken out about the distortion in pics posted where it was obvious. I also assumed you had a basic knowledge of distortion since you claimed you saw it. I notice you yet again ignored the proof that you were wrong and chose to insult instead. Cute.
And I see you ignored my question, so I suppose that makes us even.
I just want to know if you really think that is what the curvature would look like at 70K feet assuming the accepted round earth radius/diameter.
I actually had never really considered it until today. But given the geometry its sounds and looks reasonable and seems to look like other u2 shots where the distortion is not obvious. The published service ceiling of a U2 is 70k feet and the horizon at 70k feet would be 324 miles away*.
The first figure is a circle with a radius of 3959. The second is zoomed in on a section with a verticle line of 13.26 (70000/5280). The Horizon is 26.67 miles below the line of sight (4.7 degrees) and the pink area shows how much curvature would be seen in a 325-mile field of view. Looks close enough to the pic for government work.
So yes, it looks close enough for the math.
* Note the horizon is actaully drawn 325.1 miles due to laziness.
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Pesky thing a flat Earth, there are no horizons to hide behind once you get high up.
What do you mean exactly by "high up?"
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Pesky thing a flat Earth, there are no horizons to hide behind once you get high up.
What do you mean exactly by "high up?"
Altitude
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Pesky thing a flat Earth, there are no horizons to hide behind once you get high up.
What do you mean exactly by "high up?"
Altitude
Fantastic. Did you have an altitude in mind? Or are you good with 70K (I won't be surprised if you are).
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Pesky thing a flat Earth, there are no horizons to hide behind once you get high up.
What do you mean exactly by "high up?"
Altitude
Fantastic. Did you have an altitude in mind? Or are you good with 70K (I won't be surprised if you are).
Nope, let's use the images from the moon that show the entire globe.