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Re: Trump
« Reply #6860 on: November 14, 2020, 03:22:19 AM »
Your sources are now a Bermuda newspaper and an NBC article from a year ago?

The Bermuda newspaper embeds a video from Fox Business about it. The MI GOP Chair is making the claim that the machines are swinging votes against their candidates. Describes that a vote irregularity was found in a recount that benefitted Biden.


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an NBC article from a year ago?

Sure, they didn't just start doing our elections in 2020.

GA Throw out Trump Votes Glitch

Pro-Biden Bug Also Suspected in Georgia's Vote-Counting Software - https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/11/13/pro-biden_bug_also_suspected_in_georgias_vote-counting_software__125995.html

Pollwatcher: “The software appears to have thrown votes from Trump to Biden here too"
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Re: Trump
« Reply #6861 on: November 14, 2020, 03:25:04 AM »
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/13/trump-legal-team-cases-dropped-436492

Wow, outside of Tom's imagination these legal cases are going so well!
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Re: Trump
« Reply #6862 on: November 14, 2020, 03:26:04 AM »
Making claims but providing no evidence.

The issue is that they've been making the claims since before the election. So theres literally no reason anyone should just take them at their word right now. Provide the evidence, find the issues, fix any problems, count legal votes. None of this is complicated

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« Reply #6863 on: November 14, 2020, 04:07:21 AM »
Very suspish that multiple people involved in the elections are making these up these lies that there are glitches that favor Joe Biden.

Glitch Found in Voting Software, Recount Changes Outcome in Michigan County

https://www.scriberrnews.com/2020/11/09/glitch-found-in-voting-software-recount-changes-outcome-in-michigan-county/

"A recount of the ballots received in a county of Michigan has switched the previously declared 'blue county' to a 'red county' after a glitch was discovered in the software used for tallying votes.

The glitch was noticed by an Election Clerk in Antrim County who noticed that votes meant for the Republican candidate Donald Trump were incorrectly counted as votes for his opponent, Democratic candidate Joe Biden."

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« Reply #6864 on: November 14, 2020, 05:18:48 AM »
https://www.scriberrnews.com/2020/11/09/glitch-found-in-voting-software-recount-changes-outcome-in-michigan-county/

"Early in the morning on Nov. 4, Antrim County posted a brief update on their Facebook page after it was discovered that the total count of votes from the election software did not match the total count of votes from the printed tapes used for the official vote.
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“The equipment and software did not malfunction and all ballots were properly tabulated. However, the clerk accidentally did not update the software used to collect voting machine data and report unofficial results,” Michigan Secretary of State, Jocelyn Benson said."

https://www.9and10news.com/2020/11/04/antrim-co-clerk-every-vote-will-be-counted-as-cast-despite-early-unofficial-result-error/

"The Antrim County Clerk has new unofficial results after an issue with their election software skewed their original ones.
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The county wants voters to rest assured that despite this error, their vote will count the way it was cast.

New unofficial results were sent out by the county Thursday night. It says Antrim County went to President Trump with 9,783 and Biden had 7,289. Again, these are unofficial.  Results won’t become official until the independent board of canvassers verifies them."


pointing to a million instances of not-fraud doesn't somehow magically add up to fraud. all of those ballots were correctly tabulated.
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« Reply #6865 on: November 14, 2020, 09:14:54 AM »
Pretty weird that the address leads to what appears to be an apartment. But I guess it could just be a glitch on the leasing website.

More glitches:

MI County Clerk catches glitch by hand counting vote:

One Michigan county clerk caught a glitch in tabulation software so they hand counted votes and found the glitch caused 6,000 votes to go to Biden - https://bermudapost.com/one-michigan-county-clerk-caught-a-glitch-in-tabulation-software-so-they-hand-counted-votes-and-found-the-glitch-caused

Dominion Systems hiding its ownership glitch:

Chinese parts, hidden ownership, growing scrutiny: Inside America's biggest maker of voting machines - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/chinese-parts-hidden-ownership-growing-scrutiny-inside-america-s-biggest-n1104516

"That has led to calls for ES&S and its competitors, Denver-based Dominion Voting Systems and Austin, Texas-based Hart Intercivic, to reveal details about their ownership and the origins of the parts, some of which come from China, that make up their machines."

Are you sending this stuff to The Donald?
He could use some help right now.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #6866 on: November 14, 2020, 10:16:02 AM »
Guys, Tom posted that glitch already.  He's spamming us with links and anectdotes in the hopes of us being so overwhelmed that we can't effectively fight back.

Its Trump's strategy
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6867 on: November 14, 2020, 10:42:23 AM »
Guys, Tom posted that glitch already.  He's spamming us with links and anectdotes in the hopes of us being so overwhelmed that we can't effectively fight back.

Its Trump's strategy
Unfortunately, Trump’s strategy might work on BDS sufferers. But courts are a bit strange in that they demand credible evidence, something the Trump campaign are consistently failing to come up with.
The only case they’ve won is one where the court agreed that someone exceeded their authority when they allowed an extension to a deadline for people to provide their ID. So that saw some votes thrown out but nowhere near enough to make a difference and all that did was disenfranchise people who were trying to vote legitimately.
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Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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« Reply #6868 on: November 14, 2020, 11:14:13 AM »
Trump’s strategy might work on BDS sufferers like Tom.
A friendly reminder that you should be commenting on ideas, not individuals. Applies to everyone else who decided this meme was a good idea.
Read the FAQ before asking your question - chances are we already addressed it.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #6869 on: November 14, 2020, 11:30:50 AM »
PA lawsuits dropping like flies:

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/huge-loss-trump-loses-two-pennsylvania-mail-in-ballot-cases-within-hours/

Of note, the challenge to toss out mail-in ballots received after November 3rd has been denied. That will only increase Biden’s lead if the votes break down like they have been going.

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https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/525944-pennsylvania-court-rejects-five-trump-campaign-gop-legal-challenges

It’s either five or seven lawsuits. Who can keep count?
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Re: Trump
« Reply #6871 on: November 14, 2020, 12:59:42 PM »
A friendly reminder that you should be commenting on ideas, not individuals.
Cheerfully retracted. Had edited my post to remove naming anyone.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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« Reply #6872 on: November 14, 2020, 01:05:20 PM »
I propose replacing it with a bipartisan term: EDS, Election Derangement Syndrome. I think I have it.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6873 on: November 14, 2020, 01:25:12 PM »
Trump’s strategy might work on BDS sufferers like Tom.
A friendly reminder that you should be commenting on ideas, not individuals. Applies to everyone else who decided this meme was a good idea.

Did Tom specifically complain about this? I only ask because I never once saw you or any other mod or admin give a similar warning when Tom has accused one of us of being mentally ill (having "TDS"). I feel like turnabout should be fair play, but I guess there are some real precious snowflakes out there.
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« Reply #6874 on: November 14, 2020, 01:51:13 PM »
I imagine he did. If he uses the term TDS to refer to anyone again I will definitely bring it to moderator attention. It’s probably a good shout not to sling mud. Especially when Trump is already bent over the barrel and the Dems are loosening their belt buckles.

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« Reply #6875 on: November 14, 2020, 08:44:11 PM »
It is time to start looking ahead to T R U M P 2 0 2 4

He will be basically the same age as Biden is now in 2024 so age won't be a problem. We can do this, pedes.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6876 on: November 14, 2020, 09:07:31 PM »
"Trump's lawyers in PA are quitting!"





"Trump is losing his cases!"



Anything with insufficient traction in the white is expected to bounce off immediately. Anything that has sufficient traction in the target area stays in the court system.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6877 on: November 14, 2020, 09:17:31 PM »
Another way of putting it is that they are throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. It’s been mostly diarrhea with a small amount of corn.

I’ve also seen reports saying Trump’s lawyers are quitting because Giuliani is making a mess of their legal strategies that were already precariously situated. Doesn’t matter. The result will be the same.
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« Reply #6879 on: November 14, 2020, 09:43:20 PM »
Anything with insufficient traction in the white is expected to bounce off immediately. Anything that has sufficient traction in the target area stays in the court system.

A better representation would be one bullet hole in the blue - the one case where Trump’s team won. All that succeeded in doing was disenfranchising some people who voted legitimately, but their votes were discounted because they didn’t provide their ID in time and Trump’s legal team successfully argued that the person who said the deadline for them to do so should be extended exceeded their powers.

The rest didn’t even hit the target. It’s been a load of frivolous nonsense like one where a person noted that some military votes were for Biden and couldn’t believe that anyone in the armed forces would have voted for him. Unsurprisingly, that got laughed out of court.

Dude, Trump has nothing.
If he keeps throwing shit at the wall then some might stick. He might get a few votes rules out here, a few there. He’s not even close to demonstrating that there has been the kind of systematic fraud which could overturn the election.

At some point Trump is going to have to face the fact that he lost bigly, as will you. Or maybe you won’t, but regardless Biden is going to be your next President, for good or ill.

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