[Crudblud]

He could have waited out the year to see what, if anything, would happen that might make the Tories' inevitable defeat less absolute, but he decided the kamikaze option was the right one for whatever reason. Possibly he's looking forward to an early retirement in the US.



My biggest concern for some time now has been a Labour government without an effective opposition. If the polling is accurate then complacency will be the defining characteristic of Starmer's time in No 10.

Lastly I'm not sure if the date is supposed to be some sort of stunt because muh independence but it certainly seems a touch Boris.

[AATW]

I enjoyed the fact he did it outside in the pouring rain and then some troll started blaring out "Things Can Only Get Better" (for you Yanks, it was the theme song of "New Labour" back in the 90s).

Labour will win of course, although if there is one person who could mess it up it's probably Starmer. I don't have any real issue with him other than he doesn't seem to stand for much other than "not being the Tories". Which might be enough for now.

[Crudblud]

An estimated couple of days left until Rishi packs his bags and buggers off to California.

Things to look forward to:

• George Galloway and Nigel Farage trolling the Commons and each other
• Most Tory bigwigs losing their seats
• The most complacent Labour government in history
• The impending failure of Labour leading to a Tory-like decline and the rise of smaller left parties five years from now???

[AATW]

It's clear that Labour will win.
But there's not the optimism there was when they won in 1997. They'll win because of how much people hate the Tories, not because they like Labour or Starmer. The latter just happens to be the only credible alternative.

[Crudblud]

It's clear that Labour will win.
But there's not the optimism there was when they won in 1997. They'll win because of how much people hate the Tories, not because they like Labour or Starmer. The latter just happens to be the only credible alternative.

Yep, it's a vote against, not a vote for. Just like Brexit, come to think of it.

[Crudblud]

Sad news, Hamas apologist troll and grifter George Galloway is projected to lose his seat. The entertainment we'll be missing out on is immeasurable.

[AATW]

I was a bit frustrated that Farage has finally got a foothold, but that was more than made up for by people like Liz Truss and particularly Rees-Mogg being booted out

[AATW]

By the way, this election showed up once again how poor our FPTP system is.
Reform got 14.3% of the vote...5 MPs
The Lib Dems got less, 12.2%, and because of how that was distributed they got 71 MPs.

I have no time for Farage or Reform so I am quite pleased about the above, but it's clearly a poor system. It disenfranchises too many people and means you all but have to vote tactically if you want your vote to count.

[Crudblud]

The case for PR becomes stronger with each election. But will either of these dementia patient dinosaur parties let go of power? I doubt it. It's a Catch-22, the only way to get rid of the big parties is through PR, the only way to get PR is to get rid of the big parties.

[Pete Svarrior]

It's a Catch-22, the only way to get rid of the big parties is through PR, the only way to get PR is to get rid of the big parties.

I mean, we could have a referen—
wait
wait no
let's not do that

[Crudblud]

It's a Catch-22, the only way to get rid of the big parties is through PR, the only way to get PR is to get rid of the big parties.

I mean, we could have a referen—
wait
wait no
let's not do that

:')

In five years' time it could even be feasible to do it that way, although not preferable to a government with a mandate and an actual plan.

[AATW]

It's a Catch-22, the only way to get rid of the big parties is through PR, the only way to get PR is to get rid of the big parties.

I mean, we could have a referen—
wait
wait no
let's not do that

The AV Referendum was the first of Cameron's Referendum trilogy which, like many trilogies, got worse as it went on culminating in the absolute Matrix: Revolutions of the Brexit one.