Re: Facebook wants your naked photos
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2018, 02:06:21 PM »
Lots of people send naked photos over Facebook already. I don't think there's a difference between doing that and sending one directly to them, considering they keep everything they come into contact with regardless.

It's still pretty weird to ask for them. I wonder how many will actually send them. Probably more than we think.
Surely the solution is to scan an image before upload, and if it has genitals in it (we have the technology for that), refuse the upload. IE don't have it on the database and dont let people (especially children) publish pron on FB or SC. If you can recognise a face, you can recognise and PP or a VJ.

If you read the article, they're supposedly looking to stop revenge porn. That means they need to know what your genitals look like, specifically, in order to stop similar images. They're not looking at blocking pornography entirely.
But it won't work. They are matching image for image.

You uploaded a .png? Fine, I'll resave it as jpeg. Or add an 80% compression. Or add a light filter. Or add noise. Or just hit prt sc and save that. It isn't going to work in the slightest.

I'm going to have to take some now so I can send them to them :(
Send them to me instead. I absolutely promise they won't end up in CN.
Well, in fairness, the hashing could be their own format that they take the raw data from an image and reencode it into the hash.
But this just... I mean, facial recognition is probably better.  Just whitelist who can share your face.  Anyone not on the list can't upload the picture.

Re: Facebook wants your naked photos
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2018, 02:08:21 PM »
No. FB can't hold child pron with or without the child's permission. Nor can it claim to be 'blissfully ignorant' that they were children.
They don't hold on to the image though. It's stored as a hash.
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Re: Facebook wants your naked photos
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2018, 02:10:06 PM »
But this just... I mean, facial recognition is probably better.  Just whitelist who can share your face.  Anyone not on the list can't upload the picture.
It's not my face the algorithm would need to recognise  :D
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Re: Facebook wants your naked photos
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2018, 02:11:27 PM »
If a child purposely sends Facebook a picture, it's more like a minor stealing a beer rather than buying it legally.
No. FB is CONSENTING to you uploading the image to your account. They arent age verifying you. That's a bar selling (providing a service) to a minor that it shouldn't.

No. FB can't hold child pron with or without the child's permission. Nor can it claim to be 'blissfully ignorant' that they were children.
They don't hold on to the image though. It's stored as a hash.
This is the bit I don't believe. This is the type of thing that comes out in 7 years time and Zuckerberg stands before a panel of senators saying "lessons will be learned" ... meanwhile they have had 200 million child pron images stolen from them. FB has a lot of previous with this type of thing.

But this just... I mean, facial recognition is probably better.  Just whitelist who can share your face.  Anyone not on the list can't upload the picture.
It's not my face the algorithm would need to recognise  :D
FB have said nothing about introducing zoom and post production effects to images.
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Re: Facebook wants your naked photos
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2018, 02:15:41 PM »
I doubt that option is one on a childs account, so yeah, it is like a child stealing a beer.
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Re: Facebook wants your naked photos
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2018, 02:17:43 PM »
If a child purposely sends Facebook a picture, it's more like a minor stealing a beer rather than buying it legally.
No. FB is CONSENTING to you uploading the image to your account. They arent age verifying you. That's a bar selling (providing a service) to a minor that it shouldn't.
It's like a bartender that sells to minors illegally, but Facebook is the undercover cop that the minor requested in anticipation of that particular bartender trying to sell alcohol to them.
No. FB can't hold child pron with or without the child's permission. Nor can it claim to be 'blissfully ignorant' that they were children.
They don't hold on to the image though. It's stored as a hash.
This is the bit I don't believe. This is the type of thing that comes out in 7 years time and Zuckerberg stands before a panel of senators saying "lessons will be learned" ... meanwhile they have had 200 million child pron images stolen from them. FB has a lot of previous with this type of thing.
You're misunderstanding how a hash works and what the point is.
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Re: Facebook wants your naked photos
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2018, 02:21:00 PM »
Hashing it means the end result is safe enough, but it will have been sent in a way where the image is viewable.

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Facebook's Global Head of Safety Antigone Davis told Newsbeat that photos will only be seen by "a very small group of about five specially trained reviewers"

Loads and loads of potential for this to go wrong.

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Re: Facebook wants your naked photos
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2018, 02:22:32 PM »
Hashing it means the end result is safe enough, but it will have been sent in a way where the image is viewable.

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Facebook's Global Head of Safety Antigone Davis told Newsbeat that photos will only be seen by "a very small group of about five specially trained reviewers"

Loads and loads of potential for this to go wrong.
Yep. They'll have to store the images in order for the team to work through them. They are going to store these images, no matter what they are telling people.
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Re: Facebook wants your naked photos
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2018, 02:25:31 PM »
Hashing it means the end result is safe enough, but it will have been sent in a way where the image is viewable.

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Facebook's Global Head of Safety Antigone Davis told Newsbeat that photos will only be seen by "a very small group of about five specially trained reviewers"

Loads and loads of potential for this to go wrong.
Yep. They'll have to store the images in order for the team to work through them. They are going to store these images, no matter what they are telling people.
They hash them and remove them after this process. It's safer than private information on your profile page.
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Re: Facebook wants your naked photos
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2018, 08:20:01 PM »
They'll have to store the images in order for the team to work through them. They are going to store these images, no matter what they are telling people.

sounds like a bad idea to send nudes to FB...i think i would feel safer to send YOU my nudes and you can just make sure to match it up if you ever stumble across them on the web.  message me your email address and i can send you a download link so you can get my full library of dick pics.  sorry too many to email, will have to do dropbox or something
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Re: Facebook wants your naked photos
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2018, 12:40:16 PM »
They'll have to store the images in order for the team to work through them. They are going to store these images, no matter what they are telling people.

sounds like a bad idea to send nudes to FB...i think i would feel safer to send YOU my nudes and you can just make sure to match it up if you ever stumble across them on the web.  message me your email address and i can send you a download link so you can get my full library of dick pics.  sorry too many to email, will have to do dropbox or something
Well now that I have a 4k monitor, I might be able to pick out your needle in its haystack, but I tend to collect those kinds of pictures for asthetic pleasure, not a game of Where's Waldo?
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Re: Facebook wants your naked photos
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2018, 01:37:00 PM »
They'll have to store the images in order for the team to work through them. They are going to store these images, no matter what they are telling people.

sounds like a bad idea to send nudes to FB...i think i would feel safer to send YOU my nudes and you can just make sure to match it up if you ever stumble across them on the web.  message me your email address and i can send you a download link so you can get my full library of dick pics.  sorry too many to email, will have to do dropbox or something
Well now that I have a 4k monitor, I might be able to pick out your needle in its haystack, but I tend to collect those kinds of pictures for asthetic pleasure, not a game of Where's Waldo?

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Re: Facebook wants your naked photos
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2018, 02:08:51 PM »
my mom says my littleguy is an average size.
Maybe you should have sex with other women instead?
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Re: Facebook wants your naked photos
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2018, 02:27:54 PM »
my mom says my littleguy is an average size.
Maybe you should have sex with other women instead?

perhaps
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