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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What is the Gospel?
« on: July 15, 2022, 02:01:21 PM »
If you fear your father, he's probably abusive.

To fear God means to have great reverence for Him. Reverence means respect and honour.

Why would I respect and honour a being who has the ability to prevent an innocent 10 year old child from being raped but chooses not to?
Something something, free will something.

Always love that one.  Yep, she chose to be raped of her own free will.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What is the Gospel?
« on: July 15, 2022, 01:26:29 PM »
If you fear your father, he's probably abusive.

To fear God means to have great reverence for Him. Reverence means respect and honour.

Why would I respect and honour a being who has the ability to prevent an innocent 10 year old child from being raped but chooses not to?

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Technology & Information / Re: Speeding will be harder...
« on: July 14, 2022, 05:24:42 PM »
The speed limits in the UK are bullshit, particularly on motorways.
It's 70mph. It comes from an era where cars were nowhere near as safe and braking systems were nowhere near as good as they are now.
Pretty much everyone goes faster than 70 and there's no serious enforcement. IMO they should make it higher (I reckon 90) and then enforce it properly.

Perhaps an 'auto limiter' will spur that to happen.  Everyone exceeds the limit in the states as well.  Generally you're not at risk of violation until you start exceeding 5 mph over the posted limit.  No matter the posted limit, the majority will exceed it at least to that point.  Here, if the safe limit is deemed 80 and the posted speed is 80 everyone will simply drive 85+. Hell, if the safe speed is deemed 80, the posted speed needs to be 70 as there will still be a good many folks that will push 80.  With an 'auto limiter' you could actually post the speed as 90 and no one would ever exceed it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: July 14, 2022, 02:09:52 PM »
I clearly was not talking about ten year old girls there. What is clear, however, is that the use of an extreme example of underage rape to justify the personal irresponsibility of adult women shows that you guys have lost the argument.

You mean personal irresponsibility of adult men, right?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / So Long Boris!
« on: July 07, 2022, 02:08:11 PM »
Evidently Boris figured out how to Brexit.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: June 30, 2022, 05:52:55 PM »
......Things are getting dangerously regressive in the US.

......

And as much of a shit show as things are over here, it does seem like things are even worse in the US. So...well done, I guess?

This is just getting started.  Clarence Thomas has had a giant boner ever since the Trump nominations.  He's been waiting for this moment to progress the U.S. back 50 years from his first day on the bench.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: June 29, 2022, 03:07:30 AM »

Actually, no. When the US Colonies seceded from Great Britain the Declaration of Independence derived its power of one political body to secede from another from Natural Law and the Law of Nations. It didn't matter what the courts of Great Britain said. They did not need to "take it up with the courts". What the British courts said in that case was irrelevant, as the Colonies no longer recognized the authority of Great Britain.


The Declaration of Independence was derived from a group of people saying, "Fuck off."  It had nothing to do with "Natural Law".  The result of that was the British government said, "Sorry, but no you don't."  It didn't matter what the colonies thought.  What it resulted in was a war.  It was only by might that the colonies were able to assert there final independence.  The British government didn't simply say, "My bad. You folks go about your business."  The rite to succession was no more a rite with Britain than it is now. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: June 17, 2022, 04:20:37 PM »
If Rushy is coming at it from the Christian angle, which I suspect he is, then I think he would argue (as would I) that the morality which comes from "muh holy book" is absolute.

That's still just an opinion.  In that case, it's an opinion that's indoctrinated into all Christians.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: June 17, 2022, 03:48:17 PM »
:-\
Also, people need to understand that this will be a compromise because society.

You think folks like Rushy care about society?  Their morality is right.  If they say it's murder, it's murder.  No further discussion is needed and the laws of this country should be made to match it.

What they fail to grasp is that his morality is also simply opinion.  All morality is.  Sometimes it's an overwhelmingly agreed upon opinion, sometimes it isn't.

I’m not the biggest Rushy fan, but I don’t doubt he cares about society. That’s a silly thing to say.

I'd agree.  Perhaps I should have said the opinion of society.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: June 17, 2022, 02:54:08 PM »
Also, people need to understand that this will be a compromise because society.

You think folks like Rushy care about society?  Their morality is right.  If they say it's murder, it's murder.  No further discussion is needed and the laws of this country should be made to match it.

What they fail to grasp is that his morality is also simply opinion.  All morality is.  Sometimes it's an overwhelmingly agreed upon opinion, sometimes it isn't.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Moon landing hoax question
« on: June 16, 2022, 08:47:05 PM »
If Adam and Jamie say it's busted, you really need nothing more.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: June 16, 2022, 03:31:09 PM »
It's not a problem at all, it's just reality.
I'm talking about the legal definition of murder. You said that "she should be in jail", so you are too.
That's a definition, defined by the State. Because that's how society works.
You don't get to decide what is legal, you vote for people who do that and if they're not making laws you like you can vote for different people.
So you might think that abortion should be considered murder if you like, but saying it "is" is simply incorrect by the current definition.

Your idea of who gets to define murder is simply wrong.

Let's say, for example, that suddenly I am the most powerful person on the planet (woe to many, I know). In this magical universe where I am in charge, I am now effectively the government, able to impose my will on anyone anywhere at any time. Therefore, I define the legal system. In this universe, is my opinion of what constitutes murder now the "objectively correct" definition of murder to you? If the answer is yes, then why bother pretending to have any opinions at all? You don't happen to the universe, the universe happens to you. Your life and its opinions are based entirely of whatever the most powerful force in your vicinity happens to be. Your concept of what is and isn't murder entirely depends on mine in that universe.

Instead, if you answer "no", (which would be mine, should the positions reverse), then obviously the government's opinion of what is or isn't murder is irrelevant. I do not think just because some large group can inflict violence on me that suddenly their definition of murder outweighs my own.

Perhaps this has been stated or addressed.  Not going to read 14 pages of dialogue to catch up.

This issue with your assertion is that, in the US, a majority of the population feels abortion should be legal.  Hence, a majority feel it is not murder.  That is not an overwhelming majority, but significantly more than 51/49.  So, is it murder or isn't it?  Just because Rushy thinks so doesn't make it so.  It's a subjective opinion.  This leads to the fact that it will be the government that ultimately decides whether it is or not.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: June 15, 2022, 10:16:21 PM »
I know nothing about this woman but if she did this in the distant past (10 years+) and changed her stance, thats fine.  I don't agree but we shouldn't shame people for changing their minds.

The other stuff?  Yeah, totally a target for criticism.

The issue isn't whether or not she changed her mind.  It's the typical, "I got mine. Fuck you!" conservative Republican hypocrisy that's the issue.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Moon landing hoax question
« on: June 15, 2022, 02:39:09 PM »

Come on. Even if he was correct that no technologies existed at the time which could make the film run in slow motion (which I have some doubts), even in the Moon Hoax scenario NASA clearly employed engineers and rocket scientists who are making things. Apparently according to this narrative Moon Hoax NASA would have sooner ended the project and admit that they couldn't get to the moon than to use their engineers to make a video run in slow motion.


This is fantastic.  You've just done precisely this:




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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Moon landing hoax question
« on: June 14, 2022, 04:28:27 PM »
Because belief in the space agency claims doesn't come with belief in unattainable technologies you can never know, right.  ::)

So,  you don't understand the context of the quote in relation to the video subject.  Got it.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Moon landing hoax question
« on: June 14, 2022, 04:15:20 PM »
Finally took the time to watch the video.  Have watched the other mentioned as well.  Aside from the analysis of why faking the landing is impossible I enjoyed these:

First, one of the more brilliant descriptions of the space race.

"It was a global dick wagging contest on a scale never seen before in human history."

Second


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: June 13, 2022, 07:29:47 PM »
Unintended drug side affects can be quite lucrative.  Just ask the folks at Phizer.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Friggin' Boomers!
« on: June 01, 2022, 05:53:42 PM »
BOOM! BOOM!
OUT GO THE LIGHTS!

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