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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Water is always level?

« on: February 04, 2021, 05:00:36 PM »

As a retired Software Engineer I would like to add my 2c. Long ago I was writing computer programs to aim big guns on warships to targets some 30 km away.
Of course all calculations are in a orthogonal frame of reference.
We did have to correct for the earth curvature and also for refraction. (BTW, also for the Coriolis force)

The weakness of this argument is that artillery guns are not first round accurate. See - https://wiki.tfes.org/Coriolis_Effect#U.S._Army_Artillery_Coriolis_Table_Example

I don't see the relevance to the first round being accurate or not. If accuracy is obtained with curvature and refraction being factored into the calculation as mentioned, then it remains strong evidence of the aforementioned curvature and refractive effects. Guns such as these are not point and shoot armaments and require calibration due to the distances involved, which is reasonable to concede.

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Flat Earth Theory / Convert me - Explain earths phenomena

« on: February 04, 2021, 04:50:56 PM »

I believe the earth is a globe. Not because of indoctrination, not because of a closed mind. I believe the earth is a globe because I think it is the simplest explanation for what we see and experience. I am not condescending, elitist or insulting towards flat earthers, provided they are not with me. I do however like to debate the subject in a civilised manner and have yet to find suitable explanations for much of what we experience using a flat earth model. So I invite anyone to attempt to explain the following:

Solar and Lunar eclipses
Day and night cycle
Seasons
Flight times
The spherical appearance of all other large celestial bodies
How gravity works, or if you deny gravity as a concept, what replaces it

Attempt to explain these fairly basic observations using a single flat earth model as opposed to multiple contradictory ones. If you find yourself unable to do so, and you don't believe that to be a problem for the theory, explain why - remembering that the globe earth model does this with ease. Which for me is the real seller. Buying into a theory without a working model is like buying a car chassis and expecting it to move. Sure you can sit in it and make believe that you're driving around, but until all the needs it requires to perform all its functions are met, its useless in a practical capacity.

So I invite you with an open and logical mind to convert me.