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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: What is the true map of the earth?
« on: May 03, 2024, 12:00:55 PM »With the sun circling above, along with the celestial sphere, why would you not expect it to disappear from the view of persons in varying locations.You should be able to model it on scale to back up your claim.I could draw you a diagram I guess, but you can surely imagine this yourself. If an object is above a flat plane the all points on that plane are looking up at that object at an angle so have line of sight to it. Walk around a room illuminated by a lightbulb on the ceiling. Where in the room can you not see the lightbulb? Obviously in real life there will be things occluding the sun at times, which I'll come on to.
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Lots of things...distance for one, physical aspects of the aether for two, occluding objects for threeTaking those one by one
Distance - when you can't see things because they're too far away they don't just go from "you can see them" to "you can't". They get smaller and smaller until you can't see them any more. Or if the issue isn't angular size but visibility then they gradually fade out, like someone walking away from you on a foggy day. That isn't what we observe at sunset. The disc of the sun is dimmer because of the angle, but it doesn't just slowly fade out. It disappears behind the horizon. In all other experiences of something disappearing like that it's because it's going behind something. So no, us not being able to see the sun because of distance does not match what we observe.[/quote]
I addressed this fallacious response above.
Physical aspects of the aether - you're going to have to explain what that means. What aspects of the aether?Aspects that would cause the light of the sun to be visible in some locations and not to be visible in others.
Addressed above.
Occluding objects - Obviously the sun is occluded all the time, at the moment I can't see it because it's cloudy. And when the sun is low in the sky then you might not be able to see it because of nearby hills or buildings or whatever. But it doesn't go dark. The sunglight is still hitting the atmosphere and scattering and illuminating the ground. What is stopping that happening on a FE? I've explained why distance and visbility aren't the issues.
It would also change significantly in angular size, angular speed and luminosity throughout the day as your distance to it varies. None of that happens.Just another baseless statement based on your inability to envision alternate and, certainly possible, modes of operation.[/QUOTE]
It's "baseless" to state that objects get smaller in angular size as the distance between you and the object increases?
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Will you make up your own mind here for the benefit of the readership, please?
Why on earth would you claim the luminosity of the sun does not change throughout the day? Of course, it does.
Why on earth does the angular size of the sun actually appear larger to the naked eye at dawn and dusk? Of course, it does.
Just some of the possible effects of the aether.