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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Aether
« on: February 02, 2014, 04:06:31 PM »
Well, the body of evidence that the Earth is flat, as well as the evidence of things falling, proves that UA exists. If gravity was a thing the Earth would be squished into a ball.

It bears mentioning that the infinite planar models (or the near-infinite, at least) do allow for gravity as a force, I believe.

Fair enough. I think it was Wilmore who did the calculations showing that on an infinite plain gravity would not form the Earth into a ball.
Actually it was John Davis who used Gauss's Law as applied to Bouguer plates to justify his infinite plane with gravity model.  I don't recall Wilmore (or just about any other FE'er) ever presenting any calculations to support his model.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Amanda Knox guilty again.
« on: February 01, 2014, 11:04:23 PM »
Isn't it true in all nations that either side can appeal to a higher Court if they lose in one of the lower?
You appeal guilty verdicts, not innocent verdicts.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Aether
« on: January 31, 2014, 01:42:18 AM »
As for Markjo, feel free to make an actual point at any time. I'm not going to have a pedantic debate over your inaccurately strict interpretation of something you read online.
What evidence do you have that my strict interpretation of the EP is inaccurate?  Seriously, I want to know how aether wind can account for gravitational variations due to differing geological densities.  Before you answer, I just want to point out that these gravitational variations are used in real world geologic surveys.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Aether
« on: January 30, 2014, 11:58:57 PM »
I'm starting to think you're just grasping onto vocabulary you don't entirely understand. A homogeneous gravitational field means that it is exactly the same at all points on the sphere. This is not the case in RET due to differences in density, as well as the influence of celestial bodies.
Yes, that's exactly what I mean and that's exactly why the EP doesn't apply.

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Therefore, when converting to an accelerative model one must be able to account for those things being caused by something other than acceleration.
Citation please.

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This has been accomplished through the introduction of the shadow of the Aetheric Whirlpool, which cause coriolis force via its angular momentum, tides via its horizontal (x-axis) momentum, and gravitational fluctuation through its vertical (y-axis) momentum.
It has?  Would you care to show me the math, please?

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I am not sure why FEers never discuss the finer points of their theories together in the upper fora.  It does not have to always be discussions between REers and FEers.  Some FEers do not agree with the AWT, for example.  Why don't you guys ever debate its accuracy and relevance?
How do we do that without someone like Markjo interjecting every other post?
How will you ever know unless you try?  Contrary to popular belief, I don't post in every FET discussion thread.

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Technology & Information / Re: Ask Rushy about Bitcoins.
« on: January 30, 2014, 04:39:18 PM »
Do you see that trend changing anytime soon? 

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Technology & Information / Re: Ask Rushy about Bitcoins.
« on: January 29, 2014, 10:16:30 PM »
What's the most important info for a noob?
It's a pyramid scheme that's too late to be worthwhile getting into.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Aether
« on: January 29, 2014, 10:05:55 PM »
Tidal forces (and gravitational fluctuations, which are the other implication) are easily explained via Aetheric Wind Theory[Citation Needed].

We've had this conversation more than twice. Are you going to bring up something new, or are we going to have the same discussion again?
Aether wind doesn't matter.  That fact that the earth does not have homogeneous gravitational field (regardless of the cause) means that the EP does not apply. 

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I liked his comment about if Congress wants to improve the ACA, then lets have suggestions rather than another 40 or so votes to try to repeal it.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Aether
« on: January 29, 2014, 06:35:48 PM »
Tidal forces (and gravitational fluctuations, which are the other implication) are easily explained via Aetheric Wind Theory[Citation Needed].

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Aether
« on: January 29, 2014, 06:21:23 PM »
Unless you plan to argue that on a flat Earth the Equivalence Principle cannot work, your argument is irrelevant.
Good thing that he isn't arguing that, because that is an argument that FE'ers would lose.

[citation needed]
How's this?
Tidal forces, and a more precise definition
So far, so simple. Too simple, in fact, in several respects. Strictly speaking, all that was said about the equivalence of gravity and acceleration is true only for gravitational fields that are strictly homogeneous. Only in homogeneous gravitational fields are all bodies - per definition - accelerated in exactly the same way, namely in exactly the same direction and at exactly the same rate; as a result, it is indeed true that a researcher inside a cabin cannot distinguish acceleration from gravity. But real gravitational fields are always to a certain extent inhomogeneous.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Aether
« on: January 29, 2014, 03:05:53 PM »
Unless you plan to argue that on a flat Earth the Equivalence Principle cannot work, your argument is irrelevant.
Good thing that he isn't arguing that, because that is an argument that FE'ers would lose.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: PR Brainstorming
« on: January 29, 2014, 03:01:55 PM »
Perhaps it would be a good idea to have a product worth promoting before you worry about how to best promote it.

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Technology & Information / Re: Ask Rushy about Bitcoins.
« on: January 29, 2014, 02:07:11 AM »
Dollars are unlimited. The government can print however many they want, and they typically do just that.
Incorrect.  The value of a dollar is, at least in part, proportional to the number of dollars in circulation.  Having too many dollars in circulation has the effect of devaluing the dollar and that generally is not considered a good thing.

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What's to stop someone from changing the protocol to allow for more bitcoins to be generated?
Nothing. The problem lies in that you will be the only one to have changed your protocol. You are now a bitcoin network of 1. Congratulations on your expansive but worthless collection of Markjo-coins.

  Also, if the number of bitcoins is to be limited, how can they generate enough for everyone to use?
You can have 10^-8 bitcoin.
So you're saying that no one can ever change 10^8 to 10^12 at the source?

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  What's to prevent bitcoin hoarding?
Nothing. Additionally, there is nothing wrong with hoarding.
Incorrect.  If no one is spending bitcoins, then what's the point?  Currency only has value when you try to exchange it for something else.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Jew anything.
« on: January 28, 2014, 08:18:47 PM »
I am a Jew because God has called me to serve Him in that unique way.
Did God tell you to be mean to EJ?

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The term "Flat Earth" needs to be in there, otherwise people will have no idea what we're about.
Not necessarily.  The modern FES traces its origins to Rowbotham's 19th century Zetetic Society.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: The earth is round
« on: January 28, 2014, 02:45:14 PM »
Satellites can also be the size of a school bus.
Or the size of a football field.

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Technology & Information / Re: Ask Rushy about Bitcoins.
« on: January 28, 2014, 02:43:42 PM »
I can tell you exactly how many bitcoins will be generated. Can you tell me how many dollars will be printed? The federal reserve can print how ever much it wants whenever it wants, the Bitcoin protocol, however, can only generate what is allowed.
What's to stop someone from changing the protocol to allow for more bitcoins to be generated?  Also, if the number of bitcoins is to be limited, how can they generate enough for everyone to use?  What's to prevent bitcoin hoarding?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: The earth is round
« on: January 28, 2014, 02:29:27 PM »
How does the "average Joe" see a ball no bigger than a toaster several miles through the atmosphere? 
With lots of contrast.  I have seen traffic lights several miles away at night on long stretches of straight road.

Logic up there claimed that the average Joe saw sputnik, which is only 28inches in diameter.
28" is awfully big for a toaster.

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Why Markjo, you almost sound sarcastic.
Almost?

I agree. I see little point in adding art. This is not an art school. That said, zeteticism ought to make it into the name. Flat Earth Academy of Zetetic Sciences seems fine to me.
Well, this really isn't a school of any sort, so the word "academy" doesn't seem to fit.  How about: " The New Zetetic Society of Arts and/or Sciences" as the formal name and "The Zetetic Society" as the casual name.

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