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Title: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: honk on December 10, 2020, 12:31:09 AM
The wait is over. What do we think?
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: junker on December 10, 2020, 12:34:10 AM
I think I am the only one on FES currently playing the game lmao...
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: Rama Set on December 10, 2020, 01:10:06 AM
I think I am the only one on FES currently playing the game lmao...

I am a pleb and can't run it, but I was watching a stream today and it looks pretty dope.
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: Rushy on December 10, 2020, 01:57:52 AM
<Anastoid> Rushy: Texas is now an independent republic
<Anastoid> as it should be
<Rushy> indeed
<Rushy> the game is fun
<Anastoid> xasop I chose large uncircumsized penis btw
<Rushy> imagine using anything that isn't the katana
<junker> Saddam: did you enjoy the breasts? i know Rushy did
<Anastoid> I mean circumsized
<xasop> Actually neither of those is a word
<Rushy> junker: NIPPLES: OFF
<Rushy> I can say without a doubt that I have never used a character creator that had "NIPPLES: ON/OFF" as an option
<Anastoid> and I elected to keep my nipples
<Rushy> I did as well
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: Fortuna on December 10, 2020, 06:18:36 AM
The NPCs walking around are pretty whack, even if most of them are supposed to be addicted to drugs. They’re what I’d expect from a game released in 2015, not 2020. But overall the game is fun so far. It’s nice to play an RPG that isn’t generic fantasy or Fallout. Even if they don’t tune up the NPCs, it’s good for a couple playthroughs.

Also, when I was riding in DeShawn’s car it ran over an NPC and he screamed and blood sprayed through the car. I wish I recorded it because it was fuckin’ hilarious, choomba.
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: beardo on December 10, 2020, 08:23:04 AM
I'll buy it if Steam or GOG ever has it for 10-15€
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: Clyde Frog on December 10, 2020, 02:11:48 PM
I think I am the only one on FES currently playing the game lmao...
My copy arrives later today. I'm a little concerned about the reports that it has some serious bugs on the console versions right now though.

Edit: I am looking forward to seeing this particular bug, though: "Characters often break their animation cycles and randomly strike “T” poses."
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: junker on December 10, 2020, 03:00:45 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/FhZLOUA.png)
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: honk on December 11, 2020, 03:30:54 AM
The game is running pretty smoothly for me, at least once I updated my drivers and didn't have to deal with distant environments popping up right next to me. I'm pleasantly surprised to see that the dialogue has been enormously improved from what we saw in the demos - characters no longer swear as gratuitously, and the infamous "bigger than my balls" line has been removed. Driving is a pain with a mouse and keyboard, as you can't use the mouse to steer. The biggest disappointment for me overall is the combat. Maybe things get better when you're a high level and you can equip cool weapons, but right now, guns do barely any damage to most enemies. It takes a ton of ammo to bring even one down, and headshots only inflict marginally more damage. I had my qualms about the combat when I saw it in the demos, but this level of bullet-sponginess is worse than anything I had imagined. The melee combat, while clunky, is far more satisfying.
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: Fortuna on December 11, 2020, 06:32:37 AM
The biggest disappointment for me overall is the combat. Maybe things get better when you're a high level and you can equip cool weapons, but right now, guns do barely any damage to most enemies. It takes a ton of ammo to bring even one down, and headshots only inflict marginally more damage. I had my qualms about the combat when I saw it in the demos, but this level of bullet-sponginess is worse than anything I had imagined. The melee combat, while clunky, is far more satisfying.

What difficulty are you playing on? I’m playing on normal and I spec’d into revolvers. Most non-boss enemies I can one or two shot. This isn’t call of doodie though, where you can just pick up any old gun and mow anyone down. It’s an RPG, choomba. You have to spec into the weapons if you want to do any damage with them.
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: Rushy on December 11, 2020, 04:28:13 PM
I'm playing on hard difficulty and I haven't used any gun aside from the pistol I started with and a katana. Melee combat with the katana is incredibly overpowered and the game's AI can't handle you sprinting up to them and stabbing them. Speccing into blades even makes it so sprinting around causes your armor to increase 30% and for your evasion to go up, so not only can you just sprint up to people and stab them but they do less damage to you and a considerable amount of time they'll simply do no damage at all.
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: junker on December 11, 2020, 04:39:21 PM
During the Braindance mission I had a nice Scam Shitizen style glitch and ended up floating above the city.


(https://i.imgur.com/836N3q3.jpg)
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: Particle Person on December 11, 2020, 06:00:26 PM
My favorite glitch so far was when my car slightly clipped into a piece of debris and immediately was rocketed upward about 300 feet. I nailed the landing, it was preem. Apart from that, bugs have been minimal. One T-posing pedestrian and one soft-lock requiring a reload.
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: Rushy on December 11, 2020, 11:02:54 PM
My favorite glitch was when I called my car, so it phases through a solid concrete wall, drove through several cargo containers and then drove across a river (not using a bridge) just to get to me.
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: honk on December 12, 2020, 01:10:23 AM
Obviously this is a far stricter RPG than I thought. I wasn't expecting this level of near-ineffectiveness in using weapons not specialized in. Like Rushy said, though, the balance is completely out of whack in how heavily favored melee combat is. By specializing in blades, I can hack and slash through enemies easily, but even if I just use my fists, I'm way better off than if I try to use guns. Incidentally, the incredible level of salt in the CP2077 subreddit would be hilarious if not for the fact that a bunch of their complaints are spot on. In particular:

https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kb2jgj/i_just_realized_that_there_is_no_ai_for_driving/

https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kb4j99/night_city_is_beautiful_but_it_feels_static_and/

Maybe CDPR just shouldn't have made this an open-world game?
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: junker on December 12, 2020, 04:34:20 AM
but even if I just use my fists, I'm way better off than if I try to use guns.

git gud
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: Rushy on December 13, 2020, 09:29:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWmIjXIFcq8&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: junker on December 13, 2020, 11:03:20 PM
Accurate shadows...........



(https://i.imgur.com/IvAExhz.jpg)





(https://i.imgur.com/BNeNGoo.jpg)
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: honk on December 14, 2020, 04:10:13 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kc7hbh/probably_the_best_bug_ive_ever_encountered/

I love the look of sheer terror on the driver's face as he and his car warp through space and time. And then there's this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kcjdis/decided_to_test_how_bad_the_cop_spawning_issue_is/

This game is literally a meme at this point. How did it get such glowing reviews? How?

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/cyberpunk-2077/critic-reviews

I'm having fun with it, sure, but it's way, way too flawed to be deserving of this kind of overwhelming acclaim. Is there shillery afoot?
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: Toddler Thork on December 18, 2020, 09:00:36 PM
CDProjektRekt

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55359568
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: junker on December 18, 2020, 11:12:09 PM
I finished the main story. It was p fun. I might pick it back up after the inevitable patches and DLC.
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: honk on December 21, 2020, 02:48:33 AM
They can fix the bugs and glitches with patches, but I think we're stuck with the janky combat and driving, the rudimentary AI, and the shallow, non-immersive open world. Also, the NYT has an article on this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/style/cyberpunk-2077-video-game-disaster.html
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: Particle Person on December 21, 2020, 09:31:22 PM
This is interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-OZqwjzNas&feature=youtu.be

Looks like they do have some form of police pursuit AI, it's just (mostly) disabled. There's a similar video about gang pursuits. Seems like it's something that was planned, but they couldn't get it to work in time. I think there's a decent chance we'll see these things added back in a patch.
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: garygreen on December 21, 2020, 09:46:00 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/khpi7h/finally_got_my_ps1_copy_of_the_game/
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: junker on December 22, 2020, 04:41:22 AM
Cyberpunk 2022

https://youtu.be/H5rl3rg_Gmc
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: Fortuna on December 25, 2020, 08:42:21 AM
How does it end? I can't beat the game because I keep getting sidetracked by side missions.
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: honk on December 26, 2020, 10:30:28 PM
(responding to a post from junker, which he deleted because he is a coward)

My issues with the immersion have nothing to do with the writing or worldbuilding, which I actually think is quite good for the most part. It's the aforementioned AI, the behavior of NPCs, and the general way the world works. If you commit a crime that no one sees, the police spawn out of nowhere right next to you, and you can easily escape them by simply breaking their line of sight for a short while. If you rescue a cowering NPC from gang members, they'll continue to cower without so much as a "thank you" or an acknowledgment that their situation has changed. If you park your car in the street, traffic will come to an absolute halt with no one making any effort to get around you. If you wave around weapons or fire in the air, NPCs around you will cower for a moment and then continue to ignore you, and NPCs in vehicles won't notice you at all. Sometimes NPCs and vehicles will vanish and be replaced by different ones if you look away from them for a moment. These aren't glitches; they're the game responding to the slightest and simplest of player interactions. Cybermeme's world hangs together by a shred, and has been outdone by pretty much any GTA clone from the last gen or the one before it.
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: junker on December 27, 2020, 04:38:48 AM
the behavior of NPCs, and the general way the world works. If you commit a crime that no one sees, the police spawn out of nowhere right next to you, and you can easily escape them by simply breaking their line of sight for a short while. If you rescue a cowering NPC from gang members, they'll continue to cower without so much as a "thank you" or an acknowledgment that their situation has changed. If you park your car in the street, traffic will come to an absolute halt with no one making any effort to get around you. If you wave around weapons or fire in the air, NPCs around you will cower for a moment and then continue to ignore you, and NPCs in vehicles won't notice you at all. Sometimes NPCs and vehicles will vanish and be replaced by different ones if you look away from them for a moment.

I am glad you know how to read Reddit threads...

How many of these things did you experience yourself and how many did you copy/paste from things you read about from other people who were busy having fun with the game?
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: honk on December 27, 2020, 05:22:14 AM
Are you really skeptical of the fact that over the course of my playing this game, I have: a) accidentally committed a crime and had to run from the police; b) completed a "street crime" by killing the gang members before they could kill the non-hostile NPC they were attacking; c) parked in the street and observed traffic come to a complete halt (bear in mind that there are no parking spots in the entire city; you have to park on either the road or the sidewalk); d) accidentally swung or fired my weapons in a non-hostile area and noticed the reactions from passers-by; e) turned around on occasion and noticed that people or vehicles that were there a moment ago have vanished? These are not obscure scenarios that only weirdos looking to break the game are going to find themselves in. They're just ordinary interactions with the game that virtually all ordinary players will be having.
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: Particle Person on December 27, 2020, 05:58:08 AM
There are actually a few parking garages and parking lots. I know for sure there's a parking garage just near your apartment.
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: junker on December 27, 2020, 06:17:22 AM
Are you really skeptical of the fact that over the course of my playing this game, I have: a) accidentally committed a crime and had to run from the police; b) completed a "street crime" by killing the gang members before they could kill the non-hostile NPC they were attacking; c) parked in the street and observed traffic come to a complete halt (bear in mind that there are no parking spots in the entire city; you have to park on either the road or the sidewalk); d) accidentally swung or fired my weapons in a non-hostile area and noticed the reactions from passers-by; e) turned around on occasion and noticed that people or vehicles that were there a moment ago have vanished? These are not obscure scenarios that only weirdos looking to break the game are going to find themselves in. They're just ordinary interactions with the game that virtually all ordinary players will be having.

I will take this to mean you are mostly doing a copy/paste of complaints other people have posted and made memes about.
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: honk on December 27, 2020, 06:24:37 AM
There are actually a few parking garages and parking lots. I know for sure there's a parking garage just near your apartment.

My bad, I forgot about the parking garage in your apartment building.

Are you really skeptical of the fact that over the course of my playing this game, I have: a) accidentally committed a crime and had to run from the police; b) completed a "street crime" by killing the gang members before they could kill the non-hostile NPC they were attacking; c) parked in the street and observed traffic come to a complete halt (bear in mind that there are no parking spots in the entire city; you have to park on either the road or the sidewalk); d) accidentally swung or fired my weapons in a non-hostile area and noticed the reactions from passers-by; e) turned around on occasion and noticed that people or vehicles that were there a moment ago have vanished? These are not obscure scenarios that only weirdos looking to break the game are going to find themselves in. They're just ordinary interactions with the game that virtually all ordinary players will be having.

I will take this to mean you are mostly doing a copy/paste of complaints other people have posted and made memes about.

You are dumb and you post dumb things. Also, have a Dunkey video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPW6fkcM-14

Everything Dunkey says is right.
Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077 - Official Discussion Thread
Post by: ROFLROFLROFL on April 01, 2021, 11:39:49 PM
the early version of the game sucked and was glitchy as heck! not only is it bugged it also was so bad that compared to any rockstar game is like a ant while all rockstar games are like a human that kill the ant.( watch the video on youtube that shows how red dead redemshion is better than cyberpunk 2077, even Gta 4 is better than it)