Moon inverts from moonrise to moonset. This has never been explained on flat earth
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Re: Moon inverts from moonrise to moon set cannot be explained on flat earth
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2018, 01:32:11 AM »
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Re: Moon inverts from moonrise to moon set cannot be explained on flat earth
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2018, 02:01:04 PM »
Moon inverts from moonrise to moonset. This has never been explained on flat earth

You are going to have to give more information then that.  Are you referring to different locations on the Earth looking at the moon or the same location?  I assure you, from the same location, the moon is not inverting on a daily basis.

Re: Moon inverts from moonrise to moon set cannot be explained on flat earth
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2018, 02:32:24 PM »
Moon inverts from moonrise to moonset. This has never been explained on flat earth

You are going to have to give more information then that.  Are you referring to different locations on the Earth looking at the moon or the same location?  I assure you, from the same location, the moon is not inverting on a daily basis.
If you watch the moon rise, and then watch the moon set, it appears 'upside down' from one to the other, in relation to the horizon it is rising from or setting into. Everytime this comes up it's just placed into the whole 'perspective effect' that allows the sun/moon to rise/set in the first place.

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Re: Moon inverts from moonrise to moon set cannot be explained on flat earth
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2018, 02:54:50 PM »
Is this topic referring to the axial tilt or apparent "rolling" of the moon, like this?


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Re: Moon inverts from moonrise to moon set cannot be explained on flat earth
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2018, 03:12:05 PM »
Moon inverts from moonrise to moonset. This has never been explained on flat earth

You are going to have to give more information then that.  Are you referring to different locations on the Earth looking at the moon or the same location?  I assure you, from the same location, the moon is not inverting on a daily basis.
If you watch the moon rise, and then watch the moon set, it appears 'upside down' from one to the other, in relation to the horizon it is rising from or setting into. Everytime this comes up it's just placed into the whole 'perspective effect' that allows the sun/moon to rise/set in the first place.
Correct. FE theory is that we are actually seeing the bottom of the moon, and that perspective effects explain both the apparent rotation between moonrise and moonset, and also the apparent rotation corresponding to difference in latitude. However the exact geometry has never been explained, and standard Euclidean geometry does not predict it.

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Re: Moon inverts from moonrise to moon set cannot be explained on flat earth
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2018, 06:07:58 PM »
Moon inverts from moonrise to moonset. This has never been explained on flat earth

You are going to have to give more information then that.  Are you referring to different locations on the Earth looking at the moon or the same location?  I assure you, from the same location, the moon is not inverting on a daily basis.
If you watch the moon rise, and then watch the moon set, it appears 'upside down' from one to the other, in relation to the horizon it is rising from or setting into. Everytime this comes up it's just placed into the whole 'perspective effect' that allows the sun/moon to rise/set in the first place.

Wouldn’t that effect be the same on a flat earth or a spherical earth? The top of the visible moon rises first but sets last?  Is that the OP is calling an inversion?

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Re: Moon inverts from moonrise to moon set cannot be explained on flat earth
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2018, 09:59:49 PM »
Wouldn’t that effect be the same on a flat earth or a spherical earth? The top of the visible moon rises first but sets last?  Is that the OP is calling an inversion?
Spherical Earth/Heliocentric model:
This more or less is an illusion. Not the moon tilts or turns, it's the observer, who changes orientation.
When viewed from the reference system "equatorial plane" or North/South Pole, the moon does not "turn". Astronomers use an Equatorial Mount to take images of the moon.
The observers "natural" reference system is defined by gravity and the horizon. If you are looking west or east to the horizon, this horizon is not parallel to the equatorial plane. It's tilted by an angle given by latitude: 90°-lat. In the south the horizon is parallel to the equatorial plane. So on his journey from rise/east to south the moon tilts by 90°-lat. and the same from south to set/west.
So, when the moon rises in the east and sets in the west, the tilt is 2*(90°-lat).
Only on the equator this could be 180° - "top" of moon rises first and sets last.