#### Rushy

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##### Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« on: December 01, 2013, 09:13:46 PM »
The base elements of the universe are time and gravity, prove me wrong. I say that because I don't know of a word that combines time and gravity into one singular idea.

#### Thork

##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2013, 09:41:16 PM »
The base elements of the universe are time and gravity, prove me wrong. I say that because I don't know any Physics.
ftfy.

John Baez estimates that there are 26 fundamental physical constants that make up the universe. Not two.

they include
Constant of gravitation
Speed of light
Planck constant
Elementary charge
Electron mass
Rydberg constant
Proton-electron mass ratio
Hubble constant
Planck mass
Planck length
Planck time
Magnetic flux quantum
Bohr magneton
the mass of the up quark
the mass of the down quark
the mass of the charmed quark
the mass of the strange quark
the mass of the top quark
the mass of the bottom quark
4 numbers for the Kobayashi-Maskawa matrix

#### Rushy

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##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2013, 09:51:30 PM »
All of those things can be either explained using time or gravity. Next.

#### Thork

##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2013, 10:08:04 PM »
All of those things can be either explained using time or gravity. Next.
Please explain Electron Mass as a function of time and gravity.

#### Rushy

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##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2013, 10:17:53 PM »
All of those things can be either explained using time or gravity. Next.
Please explain Electron Mass as a function of time and gravity.

Mass is a result of gravity over a length of time.

#### Thork

##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2013, 10:18:31 PM »
All of those things can be either explained using time or gravity. Next.
Please explain Electron Mass as a function of time and gravity.

Mass is a result of gravity over a length of time.
Ok, now this belongs in CN.

#### Rushy

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##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2013, 10:25:21 PM »
Ok, now this belongs in CN.

Don't get mad just because you can't science as hard as me.

#### Blanko

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##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2013, 10:49:00 PM »
I was going to say something here, but nah. Nah...

#### Alchemist21

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##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2013, 11:16:25 PM »
Gravity is dependent on amount of mass.  Time is dependent on amount of fun.
I don't even care to find out what you're doing wrong, but I'm sure you're doing something wrong.

#### Rushy

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##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2013, 11:55:12 PM »
Gravity is dependent on amount of mass.

This is incorrect even to an amatuer physicist. Gravity is based on energy, not mass.

Time is dependent on amount of fun.

Irrelevant.

##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2013, 12:58:13 AM »
This is incorrect even to an amatuer physicist. Gravity is based on energy, not mass.
Mass and Energy are interchangeable, but even then I would assume that gravity is relative to the indent mass makes on space-time.

#### Rushy

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##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2013, 01:46:05 AM »
Mass and Energy are interchangeable,

No, they're not.

but even then I would assume that gravity is relative to the indent mass makes on space-time.

Mass is the result of gravity, not the other way around.

##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2013, 03:03:25 AM »
Mass and Energy are interchangeable,
No, they're not.
Small amounts of mass can be converted to large amounts of energy and large amounts of energy can be converted to small amounts of mass.
but even then I would assume that gravity is relative to the indent mass makes on space-time.
Mass is the result of gravity, not the other way around.
From what I know, mass/energy causes empty fields of space to curve thus creating gravity.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2013, 03:08:43 AM by Adolf Hipster »

#### Rushy

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##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2013, 03:17:28 AM »
Small amounts of mass can be converted to large amounts of energy and large amounts of energy can be converted to small amounts of mass.

No. This is a common misconception. Only relative mass can be converted to energy, and relative mass was never really mass in the first place.

From what I know, mass/energy causes empty fields of space to curve thus creating gravity.

How would you be sure the gravity doesn't cause the mass?

#### Rama Set

##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2013, 07:05:38 PM »
The Higgs field is thought to be the source of mass.  Gravity has never been held up as a source of mass, but rather a field that is contributed to by mass.

#### RoundEarthisRound

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##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2013, 07:52:09 PM »
2 bad the FES doesn't believe in the latter thing.

#### Rama Set

##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2013, 07:53:39 PM »
2 bad the FES doesn't believe in the latter thing.

Some FEers belive in gravity, some don't.

#### Excelsior John

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##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2013, 12:39:51 AM »
The base elements of the universe are time and gravity, prove me wrong. I say that because I don't know of a word that combines time and gravity into one singular idea.
uh...what?
Viva la FES!
Quote from: Yaakov ben Avraham link=https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=59968.msg1544396#msg1544396
Excelsior:...You are clearly a reasonable and intelligent person.

#### Rama Set

##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2013, 03:10:15 PM »
The base elements of the universe are time and gravity, prove me wrong. I say that because I don't know of a word that combines time and gravity into one singular idea.

Had a thought on my bike ride in to work. How would you define space in terms of gravity and time only?

#### DDDDAts all folks

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##### Re: Time and Gravity are the same thing.
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2013, 09:44:45 PM »
define time