[Ghost of V]

As an aside, there are no RE scientists, just scientists.

There are scientists who favor RET and scientists who favor FET. They come in all shapes and sizes.

Perhaps, although I would not call either of them FE scientists or RE scientists.

Duly noted

[inquisitive]

As an aside, there are no RE scientists, just scientists.

There are scientists who favor RET and scientists who favor FET. They come in all shapes and sizes.

Please name some FET ones.

[Gulliver]

As an aside, there are no RE scientists, just scientists.

There are scientists who favor RET and scientists who favor FET. They come in all shapes and sizes.

Please name some FET ones.

and Vx, please note that you used the present tense. "There are scientists ... who favor FET."

[Ghost of V]

Please name some FET ones.

AWT.

[Rama Set]

Please name some FET ones.

AWT.

That is not a scientist, but a hypothesis.  He was asking for a scientist's name.

[Ghost of V]

Please name some FET ones.

AWT.

That is not a scientist, but a hypothesis.  He was asking for a scientist's name.

I thought he was asking for an alternate theory explaining the rotation of galaxies? At least that's the impression I got.

[Rama Set]

Please name some FET ones.

AWT.

That is not a scientist, but a hypothesis.  He was asking for a scientist's name.

I thought he was asking for an alternate theory explaining the rotation of galaxies? At least that's the impression I got.

Oh, well he was responding to your comment about scientists.  *shrugs* He will tell you what he wants I guess.  I gonna stop micro-managing.

[Ghost of V]

As an aside, there are no RE scientists, just scientists.

There are scientists who favor RET and scientists who favor FET. They come in all shapes and sizes.

Perhaps, although I would not call either of them FE scientists or RE scientists.

I reread the discussion, and you're right. My mistake.

Samuel Rowbotham was a legitimate FE scientist. So was Lady Elizabeth Blount, and arguably 80s synth scientist Thomas Dolby (who was actually the first legitimate member of our great society and is still alive today).

[Rama Set]

As an aside, there are no RE scientists, just scientists.

There are scientists who favor RET and scientists who favor FET. They come in all shapes and sizes.

Perhaps, although I would not call either of them FE scientists or RE scientists.

I reread the discussion, and you're right. My mistake.

Samuel Rowbotham was a legitimate FET scientist. So was Lady Elizabeth Blount, and arguably 80s synth scientist Thomas Dolby.

I thought Blount was more of a patronizer of the sciences, providing money to people who wanted to study her cause.

[aninterestedparty]

The howling winds, hail/snow storms, and hurricane-like weather prevents safe travel beyond the Ice Wall. Most pilots are not brave enough (or stupid enough) to fly into such a dangerous enviroment. The ones who have (if any) have vanished without a trace.

Very convinient. Would it be possible to send an unmanned drone or vehicle on a research trip (suicide) trip?

[jroa]

The howling winds, hail/snow storms, and hurricane-like weather prevents safe travel beyond the Ice Wall. Most pilots are not brave enough (or stupid enough) to fly into such a dangerous enviroment. The ones who have (if any) have vanished without a trace.

Very convinient. Would it be possible to send an unmanned drone or vehicle on a research trip (suicide) trip?

I think it is likely that world powers have already done this.  The average person does not have the means to accomplish this, though. 

[Misero]

Convenient that they either found nothing or didn't report it.


I remember you saying that no man or machine could survive there.

[jroa]

If they reported it, would that not be an admission of lying? 

[Wulf]

So you need to use special pleading AND ignorance to deal with just one of the pieces of VOE the disproves FET. How sad. I particularly like your resorting to "aethic" flow, something never measured yet you claim produces the same effect as a RE. No one is going to take that seriously.

I "resort" to aetheric flow just as other physicists "resort" to hypothetical particles and substances when their expectations do not match observations.  Fermi guessed that neutrons had to exist in the nuclei of atoms to explain how they worked.  Pauli "resorted" to saying Neutrinos must exist because they explained observed results.  At the time, the scientific community said these ideas had no basis in reality.  They were "pleading."  Of course, years later, neutrons and neutrinos were detected.  Aether explains much of what we experience here on the flat earth, so if we are pleading when we discuss those effects, it is only in the sense that Fermi and Pauli were.

we have directly observed these particles. when neutrino's  interact in water they make blue light. this is seen in the glow of a nuclear power plant as it is surrounded by water. light can't come from nowhere.


here's a question... if gravity doesn't exist... why does our atmosphere stay with us and not just fly off beyond the wall?

[markjo]

we have directly observed these particles. when neutrino's  interact in water they make blue light. this is seen in the glow of a nuclear power plant as it is surrounded by water. light can't come from nowhere.

Actually, those aren't neutrinos.  It's called Cherenkov radiation and it's caused by electrons going faster than the phased speed of light in water.

Neutrino interactions are actually quite uncommon and require very large setups deep underground, away from nuclear reactors, cosmic ray and other forms of background radiation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino_detector