[Pete Svarrior]

I disagree with both of these assessments. There is a *loud* group of right-wing religious FE'ers, and it gets a lot of attention from the media, but it's not as large as it looks.

I'd say we're about as diverse as any other group, both religiously and politically.

[ichoosereality]

I'd say we're about as diverse as any other group, both religiously and politically.

This of course could be true, but are you basing this on anything other than your own impressions?

I have no idea about a religious belief correlating with FE views, but it seems reasonable that other non-standard views on issues such as
climate change, COVID, COVID vaccinates, the 2020 election, evolution, vast hidden technologies, etc.  might correlate with FE views.  FEers have brainwashed themselves so it seems reasonable to me that those same mental process would be in play for other areas.  It also seems clear that FEers revel in the notion that they are "free thinkers" (despite in my view the opposite being the case) and it is much easier to assign yourself such a badge if the result is a change in thinking as opposed to "I as a free thinker examined the evidence and came to the conclusion that the standard model was correct".  So while I expect that there is such a correlation, I have no evidence one way or the other.

[Iceman]

You could replace FE with RE in your post and it would hold the same value…

[ichoosereality]

You could replace FE with RE in your post and it would hold the same value…

Clearly not.  There is no badge (as false as it might be) of "I am a free thinker" self-applied for agreeing with the standard model so that is a clear asymmetry.

The notion that if you consider one thing from the std or alternative side true you might be inclined to do so for others from that side as well, that works both ways.  But even with that things are not symmetrical.  You have to go out of your way to accept an alternative view.

[RBDevlin]

You raise a good point Iceman but humour me,  I know some stuff from various bloggers and YouTubers who have put their theories out there.  what I am interested in is the nuts and bolts of the FE movement.  I myself see it as a faith, no more or less valuable than Christianity, Islam, Wicca or any of the offshoots of these faiths.

So tell me, Iceman, what do you believe?

[Tumeni]

...various bloggers and YouTubers who have put their theories out there.

Who are the YouTubers to whom you refer ?

[RBDevlin]

Who are the YouTubers to whom you refer ?

Okay, so there are a couple; level earth observer,  Phuket Word and so on.
I tend to watch the Sci Man Dan channel as well on the debunking side.

As I have said previously I don't necessarily agree with my FE friends, but I'll be damned if I wouldn't fight for their right to be wrong.
What do you believe Tumeni, if you don't mind my asking?

[Tumeni]

What do you believe Tumeni, if you don't mind my asking?

It's in the signature line of my posts.

[Pete Svarrior]

This of course could be true, but are you basing this on anything other than your own impressions?

Yes.

Clearly not.  There is no badge (as false as it might be) of "I am a free thinker" self-applied for agreeing with the standard model so that is a clear asymmetry.

Of course there is. The insufferable RE nerds usually use the badge of "skepticism" and applying it to unquestioning belief in the establishment.

FEers have brainwashed themselves
[...]
It also seems clear that FEers revel in the notion that they are "free thinkers" (despite in my view the opposite being the case)

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