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Re: Trans athletes
« Reply #280 on: July 12, 2022, 02:06:23 AM »
Hey bigots, do you want trans-folk to use the bathroom for their sex assigned at birth or not?

https://www.fox19.com/2022/07/08/transgender-butler-county-man-says-group-beat-him-up-using-wrong-restroom/

I'd rather not see them in public to begin with.

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Re: Trans athletes
« Reply #281 on: July 12, 2022, 10:57:52 AM »
Hey bigots, do you want trans-folk to use the bathroom for their sex assigned at birth or not?

https://www.fox19.com/2022/07/08/transgender-butler-county-man-says-group-beat-him-up-using-wrong-restroom/

I'd rather not see them in public to begin with.

Might I recommend Saudi Arabi then?

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« Reply #282 on: July 12, 2022, 03:23:01 PM »
Hey bigots, do you want trans-folk to use the bathroom for their sex assigned at birth or not?

https://www.fox19.com/2022/07/08/transgender-butler-county-man-says-group-beat-him-up-using-wrong-restroom/

I'd rather not see them in public to begin with.

Might I recommend Saudi Arabi then?
Nah, they are over there too.

They're just smarter and refined, knowing there is nothing to be PROUD of, just because of dysphoria.
To be honest I am getting pretty bored of this place.

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« Reply #283 on: July 12, 2022, 03:25:42 PM »
It's refreshing to see the bigots go mask off.  Poor bigots getting triggered for people being in public and following laws and such.

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« Reply #284 on: July 12, 2022, 03:31:37 PM »
There should only be one league for every sport. Gender itself is bigotry and should not exist.

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« Reply #285 on: July 12, 2022, 05:14:33 PM »
There should only be one league for every sport. Gender itself is bigotry and should not exist.

Thanks for the shitpost.  Interestingly enough, most team sports leagues do not put restrictions on which sexes can compete in them.  If you are a female and good enough to play MLB, then there is no rule against it.  There are probably a bunch of social barriers to jump though.

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Re: Trans athletes
« Reply #286 on: July 12, 2022, 07:32:11 PM »
There should only be one league for every sport. Gender itself is bigotry and should not exist.

Thanks for the shitpost.  Interestingly enough, most team sports leagues do not put restrictions on which sexes can compete in them.  If you are a female and good enough to play MLB, then there is no rule against it.  There are probably a bunch of social barriers to jump though.

Sex and gender are not the same thing. Please educate yourself.

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« Reply #287 on: July 12, 2022, 07:40:47 PM »
There should only be one league for every sport. Gender itself is bigotry and should not exist.

Thanks for the shitpost.  Interestingly enough, most team sports leagues do not put restrictions on which sexes can compete in them.  If you are a female and good enough to play MLB, then there is no rule against it.  There are probably a bunch of social barriers to jump though.

Sex and gender are not the same thing. Please educate yourself.

Yeah I was being tangential to your shitpost. Incredible that your response is to shitpost again. There are no league’s with gender requirements either, so it’s no big deal either way. It’s almost like the issue with trans people is a bigoted moral panic. Fortuna can tell you more if you are interested.

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« Reply #288 on: July 12, 2022, 07:45:39 PM »
There should only be one league for every sport. Gender itself is bigotry and should not exist.

Thanks for the shitpost.  Interestingly enough, most team sports leagues do not put restrictions on which sexes can compete in them.  If you are a female and good enough to play MLB, then there is no rule against it.  There are probably a bunch of social barriers to jump though.
^Imagine actually believing a female is good enough to compete with males at the professional level in any sport.

Chuckle...
To be honest I am getting pretty bored of this place.

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Re: Trans athletes
« Reply #289 on: July 12, 2022, 08:29:52 PM »
Yeah I was being tangential to your shitpost. Incredible that your response is to shitpost again. There are no league’s with gender requirements either, so it’s no big deal either way. It’s almost like the issue with trans people is a bigoted moral panic. Fortuna can tell you more if you are interested.

There should be no such thing as 'trans' people because 'gender' should not exist. The mere existence of 'trans' people is a form of bigotry and they are all inherently bigots reinforcing stereotypes that, again, should not exist. 'Transgenderism' as a movement is based upon 'gender' which is the idea that 'gender roles' exist. Allowing 'gender roles' to exist is bigotry, but the highest form of bigotry is reinforcing those roles.

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« Reply #290 on: July 12, 2022, 09:00:19 PM »
There should only be one league for every sport. Gender itself is bigotry and should not exist.

Thanks for the shitpost.  Interestingly enough, most team sports leagues do not put restrictions on which sexes can compete in them.  If you are a female and good enough to play MLB, then there is no rule against it.  There are probably a bunch of social barriers to jump though.
^Imagine actually believing a female is good enough to compete with males at the professional level in any sport.

Chuckle...

Post-puberty they aren’t, but that’s not the point. Way to go though.

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« Reply #291 on: July 12, 2022, 10:44:02 PM »
^Imagine actually believing a female is good enough to compete with males at the professional level in any sport.

Chuckle...

- Ice skating: Male/female pairs compete together performing a dance on the ice.
- Horse Racing:  On the Flat and over jumps, women and men ride and compete against each other equally.  And in a recent study it was concluded that female riders perform no better or worse than their male counterparts on horses of similar ability.
- Sailing: Men and women compete together in sailing in one particular class, the Nacre 17.
- Motorbike Racing:  Doesn’t have gender barriers and female riders are starting to make a lot of progress in the sports.  In September 2017 Ana Carrasco, a 20-year-old from Spain, became the first woman to win a world championship motorcycle race in Portimao, Portugal.
- Darts: On the 17th December 2019, Fallon Sherrock made darts history, beating Ted Evetts 3-2 to become the first woman to beat a man at the PDC World Championship.
-Badminton: As well as having separate male and female competitions, men and women compete as a male/female duo in mixed doubles competitions.
- Tennis: Like badminton, has separate male and female competitions, but men and women also compete as a male/female team in mixed doubles matches.
- Luge: The luge used to have a doubles competition in which male and female teams were allowed, but from 2014 the doubles event was replaced by the mixed relay, which is competed by teams with equal numbers of men and women.
- Auto Racing: Danica Patrick is not only considered the most successful woman in the history of American car racing.   Stock car racing since her youth, Patrick won the Indy Japan 300 in 2008, becoming the first and only woman to win an IndyCar Series race.  In 2009, Patrick placed third in the Indianapolis 500 and marked the highest finish by a female driver in that race.  In 2013, she became the first female NASCAR driver to take a NASCAR Sprint Cup Series.
- Surfing: Carissa Moore has won several women’s competitions, but her most important victory came in 2007 when she won the Quicksilver King of the Groms event against male competitors. In 2011
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« Reply #292 on: July 13, 2022, 02:05:27 AM »
There should only be one league for every sport. Gender itself is bigotry and should not exist.

Thanks for the shitpost.  Interestingly enough, most team sports leagues do not put restrictions on which sexes can compete in them.  If you are a female and good enough to play MLB, then there is no rule against it.  There are probably a bunch of social barriers to jump though.

Sex and gender are not the same thing. Please educate yourself.

Yeah I was being tangential to your shitpost. Incredible that your response is to shitpost again. There are no league’s with gender requirements either, so it’s no big deal either way. It’s almost like the issue with trans people is a bigoted moral panic. Fortuna can tell you more if you are interested.

All of the trans people I've known have been political zealots, similar to you. I wouldn't want to see you in public either.

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« Reply #293 on: July 13, 2022, 03:15:36 AM »
There should only be one league for every sport. Gender itself is bigotry and should not exist.

Thanks for the shitpost.  Interestingly enough, most team sports leagues do not put restrictions on which sexes can compete in them.  If you are a female and good enough to play MLB, then there is no rule against it.  There are probably a bunch of social barriers to jump though.

Sex and gender are not the same thing. Please educate yourself.

Yeah I was being tangential to your shitpost. Incredible that your response is to shitpost again. There are no league’s with gender requirements either, so it’s no big deal either way. It’s almost like the issue with trans people is a bigoted moral panic. Fortuna can tell you more if you are interested.

All of the trans people I've known have been political zealots, similar to you. I wouldn't want to see you in public either.

To be honest, you should probably just stay out of public yourself if it causes you this much stress.  Outside of protests I never see people in public hotly discussing politics.  Lots of people going to work, shopping, eating, etc... Is that politically zealous to you?

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« Reply #294 on: July 13, 2022, 04:12:40 AM »
^Imagine actually believing a female is good enough to compete with males at the professional level in any sport.

Chuckle...

- Ice skating: Male/female pairs compete together performing a dance on the ice.
- Horse Racing:  On the Flat and over jumps, women and men ride and compete against each other equally.  And in a recent study it was concluded that female riders perform no better or worse than their male counterparts on horses of similar ability.
- Sailing: Men and women compete together in sailing in one particular class, the Nacre 17.
- Motorbike Racing:  Doesn’t have gender barriers and female riders are starting to make a lot of progress in the sports.  In September 2017 Ana Carrasco, a 20-year-old from Spain, became the first woman to win a world championship motorcycle race in Portimao, Portugal.
- Darts: On the 17th December 2019, Fallon Sherrock made darts history, beating Ted Evetts 3-2 to become the first woman to beat a man at the PDC World Championship.
-Badminton: As well as having separate male and female competitions, men and women compete as a male/female duo in mixed doubles competitions.
- Tennis: Like badminton, has separate male and female competitions, but men and women also compete as a male/female team in mixed doubles matches.
- Luge: The luge used to have a doubles competition in which male and female teams were allowed, but from 2014 the doubles event was replaced by the mixed relay, which is competed by teams with equal numbers of men and women.
- Auto Racing: Danica Patrick is not only considered the most successful woman in the history of American car racing.   Stock car racing since her youth, Patrick won the Indy Japan 300 in 2008, becoming the first and only woman to win an IndyCar Series race.  In 2009, Patrick placed third in the Indianapolis 500 and marked the highest finish by a female driver in that race.  In 2013, she became the first female NASCAR driver to take a NASCAR Sprint Cup Series.
- Surfing: Carissa Moore has won several women’s competitions, but her most important victory came in 2007 when she won the Quicksilver King of the Groms event against male competitors. In 2011
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Actually even in those sports like "auto racing", men dominate the world records. Your list is also imbecilic.

"Danica Patrick is not only considered the most successful woman in the history of American car racing."

Who else would hold the title of "most successful woman" if not a woman?

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« Reply #295 on: July 13, 2022, 06:18:46 AM »
Yes, in response to, "Imagine actually believing a female is good enough to compete with males at the professional level in any sport."

Apparently, women can and do and are competing equally to men in some sports. Which is in direct contradiction to the statement above. There's nothing in that statement about dominance.

As for Danika, looks like she not only equally competed with men in a professional sport, she bested them on occasion:

- won the Indy Japan 300 in 2008 (against men)
- placed third in the Indianapolis 500 (beating out all but 2 men on the track - Certainly equal)
- won a NASCAR Sprint Cup Series (against men)

Equally (if not better in some cases) competing with men in a professional sport which the statement above said doesn't exist. Which it does.

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« Reply #296 on: July 13, 2022, 06:33:58 AM »
If placing 47th in the Nascar Cup and 108th in the Nascar Xfinity series is "competing", then sure. It's just not winning or competing equally with the best in the sport. The best woman racer in the world couldn't compete on an equal or superior basis with the best male racer, even in the physically athletic sport of auto racing.

Among her achievements in that link she participated in hundreds of races and won a series race once. Such amazing.
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« Reply #297 on: July 13, 2022, 07:33:17 AM »
This really isn't complicated. Some sports like football (I'll be in the cold, cold grave before I call it "soccer") or tennis are physical and men have a clear advantage because biology.
There is no sense in having mixed leagues and that's where trans athletes becomes an issue. Any man who has been through puberty and then transitions will surely have a clear advantage.
Other sports like snooker and darts, there's no reason men and women can't compete in those so they do. The only barrier is that these are traditionally seen as "male" sports so fewer women play them and therefore it's far less likely any of them will get to the very top of the game because statistics.
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« Reply #298 on: July 13, 2022, 08:48:35 AM »
If placing 47th in the Nascar Cup and 108th in the Nascar Xfinity series is "competing", then sure. It's just not winning or cometing equally with the best in the sport. The best woman racer in the world couldn't compete on an equal or superior basis with the best male racer, even in the physically athletic sport of auto racing.

Among her achievements in that link she participated in hundreds of races and won a series race once. Such amazing.

I see, so for you, for a woman to be considered to have competed equally in some professional sport she has to win 100% of the contests she engaged in?

Talk about imbecilic...

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« Reply #299 on: July 13, 2022, 11:39:27 AM »
^Imagine actually believing a female is good enough to compete with males at the professional level in any sport.

Chuckle...

- Ice skating: Male/female pairs compete together performing a dance on the ice.
- Horse Racing:  On the Flat and over jumps, women and men ride and compete against each other equally.  And in a recent study it was concluded that female riders perform no better or worse than their male counterparts on horses of similar ability.
- Sailing: Men and women compete together in sailing in one particular class, the Nacre 17.
- Motorbike Racing:  Doesn’t have gender barriers and female riders are starting to make a lot of progress in the sports.  In September 2017 Ana Carrasco, a 20-year-old from Spain, became the first woman to win a world championship motorcycle race in Portimao, Portugal.
- Darts: On the 17th December 2019, Fallon Sherrock made darts history, beating Ted Evetts 3-2 to become the first woman to beat a man at the PDC World Championship.
-Badminton: As well as having separate male and female competitions, men and women compete as a male/female duo in mixed doubles competitions.
- Tennis: Like badminton, has separate male and female competitions, but men and women also compete as a male/female team in mixed doubles matches.
- Luge: The luge used to have a doubles competition in which male and female teams were allowed, but from 2014 the doubles event was replaced by the mixed relay, which is competed by teams with equal numbers of men and women.
- Auto Racing: Danica Patrick is not only considered the most successful woman in the history of American car racing.   Stock car racing since her youth, Patrick won the Indy Japan 300 in 2008, becoming the first and only woman to win an IndyCar Series race.  In 2009, Patrick placed third in the Indianapolis 500 and marked the highest finish by a female driver in that race.  In 2013, she became the first female NASCAR driver to take a NASCAR Sprint Cup Series.
- Surfing: Carissa Moore has won several women’s competitions, but her most important victory came in 2007 when she won the Quicksilver King of the Groms event against male competitors. In 2011
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^Imagine confusing participation with competition.

BWHAHAHA!!!

To be honest I am getting pretty bored of this place.