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Re: President Joe Biden
« Reply #500 on: December 11, 2021, 08:17:28 AM »
I miss Paul Ryan.
At least he had integrity.
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Re: President Joe Biden
« Reply #501 on: December 11, 2021, 07:44:13 PM »
I miss Paul Ryan.
At least he had integrity.
LOL! Define integrity please, as I don't think you actually know what the word means.
To be honest I am getting pretty bored of this place.

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Re: President Joe Biden
« Reply #502 on: December 11, 2021, 07:54:46 PM »
I miss Paul Ryan.
At least he had integrity.
LOL! Define integrity please, as I don't think you actually know what the word means.
You hold principals that are for the betterment of your society and do not change your views based on personal hardship or reward but rather new evidence or understanding.

An example of a lack of integrity: Thinking North Korea's ruler is evil until they send you a big card with nice words on it, then saying they are such a great leader.

An example of great integrity: Stepping down as house speaker when your party has decided to use fear mongering, which you are against.
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« Reply #503 on: December 11, 2021, 11:44:03 PM »
Oh, please. Ryan retired from politics because he didn't want to risk tarnishing his career by either associating too closely with Trump or making an enemy of him. Like any good Objectivist, Ryan's first priority was his own bottom line, and that's why he figured he'd be better off avoiding controversy altogether and enriching himself in the private sector instead.

And if I sound too scornful, I should stress that that's fine. If private companies think it's a good use of their money to offer Ryan a huge salary in exchange for the honor of officially listing him as a member of their board of directors, more power to him for the easy gig. But it wasn't an act of courage or integrity to retire from politics and quietly farm out his name to the highest bidder. It was an act of pure self-interest.
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Re: President Joe Biden
« Reply #504 on: December 12, 2021, 05:46:03 AM »
I think Ted Cruz would be a better choice for Republicans.

but ted cruz is fat and has a beard

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Re: President Joe Biden
« Reply #505 on: December 12, 2021, 07:36:22 AM »
I miss Paul Ryan.
At least he had integrity.
LOL! Define integrity please, as I don't think you actually know what the word means.
You hold principals that are for the betterment of your society and do not change your views based on personal hardship or reward but rather new evidence or understanding.

An example of a lack of integrity: Thinking North Korea's ruler is evil until they send you a big card with nice words on it, then saying they are such a great leader.

An example of great integrity: Stepping down as house speaker when your party has decided to use fear mongering, which you are against.
Oh yes, Paul Ryan, the anti-fear mongering guy who pushed for our continued war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sorry, I must've overlooked his decided push to bring our troops home.
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Re: President Joe Biden
« Reply #506 on: December 12, 2021, 09:11:17 AM »
Oh, please. Ryan retired from politics because he didn't want to risk tarnishing his career by either associating too closely with Trump or making an enemy of him. Like any good Objectivist, Ryan's first priority was his own bottom line, and that's why he figured he'd be better off avoiding controversy altogether and enriching himself in the private sector instead.

And if I sound too scornful, I should stress that that's fine. If private companies think it's a good use of their money to offer Ryan a huge salary in exchange for the honor of officially listing him as a member of their board of directors, more power to him for the easy gig. But it wasn't an act of courage or integrity to retire from politics and quietly farm out his name to the highest bidder. It was an act of pure self-interest.

Huh.  Didn't know he went with some easy board gig.  Didn't know what he did.
All I remember is that he didn't sling mud.  He fought and argued, but was never one for petty insults or fear mongering.

Maybe I just have rose tinted glasses.
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Re: President Joe Biden
« Reply #507 on: December 13, 2021, 05:48:32 AM »

Former President Donald Trump ended his presidency more unpopular than any of the last 12 presidents at
the end of their first terms and he is still unpopular post-presidency according to FiveThirtyEight’s new average
of Trump’s favourability numbers. Currently, 41.4% of Americans have a favourable opinion of Trump, while
53% have an unfavourable opinion of him.

A November poll from Suffolk University reports that 11% say they would vote for a third-party candidate, which
is a worry for both the Republicans and the Democrats, as swinging voters often confound the pre-election polls.

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Re: President Joe Biden
« Reply #508 on: December 13, 2021, 06:09:05 PM »

Former President Donald Trump ended his presidency more unpopular than any of the last 12 presidents at
the end of their first terms and he is still unpopular post-presidency according to FiveThirtyEight’s new average
of Trump’s favourability numbers. Currently, 41.4% of Americans have a favourable opinion of Trump, while
53% have an unfavourable opinion of him.

A November poll from Suffolk University reports that 11% say they would vote for a third-party candidate, which
is a worry for both the Republicans and the Democrats, as swinging voters often confound the pre-election polls.

Wouldn't this post be more at home in the Donald Trump thread? Or were you hoping for someone to point out to you how sharply Biden's own popularity has slid since he became president?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

Numbers don't look too different tbh
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« Reply #509 on: December 13, 2021, 06:32:55 PM »
And that's why Trump has an excellent chance of winning in 2024. Too many voters will just focus on how bad things are now and forget how much worse they were under Trump. Biden's only real hope of winning is if he actually manages to more or less wrap up the whole covid situation - something that seems astonishingly unlikely at this stage.
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Re: President Joe Biden
« Reply #510 on: December 13, 2021, 06:34:06 PM »
Too many voters will just focus on how bad things are now and forget how much worse they were under Trump.

Were things worse under Trump?

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« Reply #511 on: December 13, 2021, 07:25:32 PM »
Too many voters will just focus on how bad things are now and forget how much worse they were under Trump.

Were things worse under Trump?

Depends upon who you ask.

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« Reply #512 on: December 13, 2021, 07:29:05 PM »
Too many voters will just focus on how bad things are now and forget how much worse they were under Trump.

Were things worse under Trump?

Depends upon who you ask.

We also had staff members using distractions, outright lies, or just waiting til he forgot to ensure America didn't implode.
I suspect Trump was running less of the country than Regan did in his last year.
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Re: President Joe Biden
« Reply #513 on: December 17, 2021, 01:22:06 AM »

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« Reply #514 on: December 17, 2021, 04:50:48 AM »


Good question.

It is! Because obviously the only people these people ever come into contact with are other players, duh!
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« Reply #515 on: December 17, 2021, 04:54:22 AM »
Perhaps waning vaccine efficacy, waning prior infection antibody efficacy, Delta/Omnicron, loosened protocols, a less than optimal vax rate among the general population, Thanksgiving.

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« Reply #516 on: December 17, 2021, 06:15:20 AM »
That's not the question to ask.
As we all know, the vaccine doesn't prevent you from catching covid, it just makes it quicker to end and much milder symptoms. 

The question is... Of these players, how many had to be hospitalized?  How many died?
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Re: President Joe Biden
« Reply #517 on: December 18, 2021, 02:37:09 PM »
That's not the question to ask.
As we all know, the vaccine doesn't prevent you from catching covid, it just makes it quicker to end and much milder symptoms. 

The question is... Of these players, how many had to be hospitalized?  How many died?
Right.
I don’t understand the obsession with “cases”. The relevant metric is surely how many people are ending up in hospital or dying. Cases are through the roof in the UK but so far that hasn’t translated in to hospitalisations or deaths. There is a lag though do that may follow. Hopefully with the vaccines and boosters it won’t.
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Re: President Joe Biden
« Reply #518 on: December 18, 2021, 05:35:38 PM »
That's not the question to ask.
As we all know, the vaccine doesn't prevent you from catching covid, it just makes it quicker to end and much milder symptoms. 

The question is... Of these players, how many had to be hospitalized?  How many died?
Right.
I don’t understand the obsession with “cases”. The relevant metric is surely how many people are ending up in hospital or dying. Cases are through the roof in the UK but so far that hasn’t translated in to hospitalisations or deaths. There is a lag though do that may follow. Hopefully with the vaccines and boosters it won’t.

Both metrics are relevant. If you have 1,000 cases with a 5% hospitalization rate it’s the same as 5,000 cases with a 1% hospitalization rate.

Re: President Joe Biden
« Reply #519 on: December 18, 2021, 06:20:22 PM »
silly tweet

if you have to lie to make your point, maybe it isn't a very good one.

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/packers-are-healthy-while-covid-rate-soars-across-nfl

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After relatively smooth sailing through training camps in August and the first three months of the season, 106 players have tested positive the past three days. That’s more than over the previous four weeks combined (87) and not far off the six-week total (121).

there are 53 players on each nfl roster, and there are 32 teams. that's 1696 players total. 106/1696 ≈ 0.06 = 6%.

wow, 6%. so overwhelming. the nfl will probably have to close up shop now. it's such a shame that those players haven't taken some kind of miracle drug that will virtually eliminate their chances of being hospitalized. too bad.

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While COVID vaccines have proven durable in terms of preventing serious illness and death, they have not fared as well in preventing infections. The vast majority of players, coaches and staff members are vaccinated. Many of this wave of infections are breakthrough cases in which the players are asymptomatic.

“Just out of breath going up the stairs but that’s every week. I had nothing, really, which was nice,” Packers tight ends coach Justin Outten, who is back after missing Sunday night’s win vs. Chicago, said on Thursday.
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