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Re: First Look at Ben Affleck's Batman
« Reply #180 on: April 30, 2015, 07:26:52 PM »
Because Batman has cooler things to do than scowl at the camera (as do all of these characters)
You're talking about a promotion picture. How would you like it to look? Bright colors with Batman smiling into the distance?

Something more interesting than glaring at the camera like they're in a Kubrick movie, and a little bit less desaturation in every shot.  Like the picture of Wonder Woman, for example.  That's the only one that doesn't seem to be concerned first and foremost with saying, "Grrr, I can out-brood you!" so it's easily the most interesting one so far.

Also, lol@WB/DC:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/superman-batman-dcs-real-battle-792190
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Re: First Look at Ben Affleck's Batman
« Reply #181 on: April 30, 2015, 09:34:57 PM »
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« Reply #182 on: May 01, 2015, 12:39:27 AM »


Well, she's not staring at the camera and there is some color...

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Re: First Look at Ben Affleck's Batman
« Reply #183 on: May 01, 2015, 02:28:39 AM »
Does every DC comic book hero now literally have the personality of Batman? Is that the plot? An evil villain tries to depress all the heroes to death by making them batman impersonators?

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Re: First Look at Ben Affleck's Batman
« Reply #184 on: May 01, 2015, 08:11:32 AM »
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Re: First Look at Ben Affleck's Batman
« Reply #185 on: May 04, 2015, 06:00:24 PM »
Does every DC comic book hero now literally have the personality of Batman? Is that the plot? An evil villain tries to depress all the heroes to death by making them batman impersonators?

That's what it looks like.  Patton Oswalt made all the best jokes about it here.

Anyway, to deviate from the subject of BvS, next summer's Suicide Squad might not be too bad.  It's being written and directed by David Ayer, who is of course far more talented than Goyer and Snyder, and the premise has some potential.  We have some pictures of the cast, too:







OMG but Deadshot is supposed to be white!
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« Reply #186 on: May 04, 2015, 06:28:21 PM »
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Re: First Look at Ben Affleck's Batman
« Reply #187 on: May 08, 2015, 01:39:35 AM »
OMG but Deadshot is supposed to be white!
So is Nick Fury.
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Re: First Look at Ben Affleck's Batman
« Reply #188 on: May 08, 2015, 04:42:52 AM »
OMG but Deadshot is supposed to be white!
So is Nick Fury.

Define "supposed to be", since Fury'd been black in the comics for a good many years before the movies.
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Re: First Look at Ben Affleck's Batman
« Reply #189 on: May 08, 2015, 04:52:32 AM »
So Fury was originally white in the comics, then turned black? What?

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« Reply #190 on: May 08, 2015, 05:27:09 AM »
So Fury was originally white in the comics, then turned black? What?
Have you ever heard of Ultimate Marvel?
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« Reply #191 on: May 08, 2015, 05:46:24 AM »
OMG but Deadshot is supposed to be white!
So is Nick Fury.

That's an interesting example, because Nick Fury's character was actually rebooted as a black man - one who was clearly designed to look just like Sam Jackson, in fact - with the Ultimate Marvel imprint in the early 2000s.  Nevertheless, I'm always happy to see more minority representation in popular culture, even in adaptations.  Deadshot's ethnicity isn't particularly relevant to his character, at least not in any interpretation I've ever seen, so there's really no harm in having him be a black man.  A lot of "I'm not racist, but..." fanboys objected to it, but they're dumb.

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Re: First Look at Ben Affleck's Batman
« Reply #192 on: May 08, 2015, 05:55:02 AM »
OMG but Deadshot is supposed to be white!
So is Nick Fury.

That's an interesting example, because Nick Fury's character was actually rebooted as a black man - one who was clearly designed to look just like Sam Jackson, in fact - with the Ultimate Marvel imprint in the early 2000s.  Nevertheless, I'm always happy to see more minority representation in popular culture, even in adaptations.  Deadshot's ethnicity isn't particularly relevant to his character, at least not in any interpretation I've ever seen, so there's really no harm in having him be a black man.  A lot of "I'm not racist, but..." fanboys objected to it, but they're dumb.

Yes, we all needed a reminder that minorities can be villains too. I'm tired of seeing evil white people in these movies when we all know the minorities are the evil ones.

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Re: First Look at Ben Affleck's Batman
« Reply #193 on: May 08, 2015, 06:03:37 AM »
So Fury was originally white in the comics, then turned black? What?
Have you ever heard of Ultimate Marvel?

I don't delve too deep into capeshit, so not really.

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Re: First Look at Ben Affleck's Batman
« Reply #194 on: May 08, 2015, 11:32:25 AM »
Let's not even get in to what is going on with Fantastic Four's casting.

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Re: First Look at Ben Affleck's Batman
« Reply #195 on: May 08, 2015, 02:15:45 PM »
So Fury was originally white in the comics, then turned black? What?
Have you ever heard of Ultimate Marvel?
I gave up on trying to keep up with all of the reboots and retcons about 15 years ago.

Let's not even get in to what is going on with Fantastic Four's casting.
Agreed.
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Re: First Look at Ben Affleck's Batman
« Reply #196 on: May 08, 2015, 07:27:58 PM »
Yes, we all needed a reminder that minorities can be villains too. I'm tired of seeing evil white people in these movies when we all know the minorities are the evil ones.

Pretty much everyone is a villain in this movie, so in context he's more of an anti-hero than anything.  But yes, members of minority groups should get more exposure as villains, as well as get more exposure as heroes, anti-heroes, sidekicks, comic relief, etc.  Most media these days is still stuck in the unfortunate practice of tokenism, which puts the token in the bizarre position of somehow having to "represent" their entire gender/ethnicity and be a flawless paragon of a character.  That's undoubtedly part of the reason why there was such a backlash over Black Widow's depiction in AoU, even though everyone's character development was awkwardly rushed through in that film.  A misstep with her character becomes a misstep for all women.  Which is ridiculous, but it's part of the culture we're stuck in.

Re: First Look at Ben Affleck's Batman
« Reply #197 on: May 08, 2015, 07:29:48 PM »
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Re: First Look at Ben Affleck's Batman
« Reply #198 on: May 09, 2015, 05:53:42 PM »
Let's not even get in to what is going on with Fantastic Four's casting.

There are bigger problems with the upcoming FF movie than Johnny Storm's race.  For example, there's this:

http://io9.com/the-fantastic-four-reboot-is-reinventing-doctor-doom-in-1657191173

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Re: First Look at Ben Affleck's Batman
« Reply #199 on: May 09, 2015, 07:03:36 PM »
Well I won't watch it.
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