#### zorbakim

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##### Multiverse: distance to the sun is 6360km
« on: December 18, 2018, 12:16:02 AM »
We are all at the center of the universe.
The celestial bodies are not so far away,
They are close.
The sundial proves it.

Eratosthenes interpreted the sundial with the premise that the earth is round.
But that's a total nonsense.
At that time, the sundial was used on the basis of the flat terra.
So they applied Pythagoras theorem.
If you get rid of Eratosthenes' unreasonable assumptions,
You will find the distance that the sun shines on the flat terra.

The earth is modeled after a celestial sphere.
Therefore, the distance to the sun is about 6360 kilometers.
The same is true of all celestial bodies, including the North Star.
That explains the change in the elevation of the North Star.
Of course, the shadow of the sundial turned from the equator.
Because, the celestial hemisphere moves with the observer.
The position of the North Pole is also moving at the same time.
as if the axis is fixed in one place
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#### Curiosity File

##### Re: multiverse: distance to the sun is 6360km
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2018, 01:14:45 AM »
I thought centuries of advancement in science and technology showed these calculations inaccurate?
Everything from radio signals to laser to landing on celestial bodies give us much more accurate data.
Besides if the moon were only the 3,000 miles away that FET claims we'd have been there more than the half dozen times we have, no? That's a subject to debate another time.

To use your words "If you get rid of Eratosthenes' unreasonable assumptions" along with ALL other flawed, or to be nice, " technologically, informational and historically limited" methods the ancients used for calculations, and use what's available today we come up up with very different and much more accurate calculations.
But I might ask, How does the sun dial prove distance? I thought it was a tool designed to keep time.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2018, 01:16:37 AM by Curiosity File »

#### zorbakim

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##### Re: multiverse: distance to the sun is 6360km
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2018, 08:43:57 AM »
We know where the sun is vertically above.
namely, 2 equinox and 2 solstice.
As you know the distance to the area and the angle of the sun,
you can easily get it by using Pythagorean theorem.
Then, the distance to the sun is almost the same as the Earth's radius.

#### JCM

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##### Re: multiverse: distance to the sun is 6360km
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2018, 09:28:16 AM »
Measuring the Sun’s height above the Earth in this method gives vastly different heights depending on where you are in the world as well as the time of the year.  So, either the method is extremely flawed, or the Sun is physically in different places to different people. Which is it?

This also ignores the bigger issues of a near sun/moon system in that it has no explanation for worldwide observance of the moon phases which don’t change significantly in one day while a near moon/sun system would orbit the entire Earth in that day producing different phases very quickly.  How would a near moon/sun system produce the phases we can see?

As for the multiverse based on individuals, not on physical universes, can you explain that more please?

With regard to sun dials, there are many different kinds and they look quite different for different tasks as well as needing to be set up differently for different latitudes and season to accurately tell time...  Now, why would sun dials be different on different latitudes if the Earth were flat? What are they being lined up against? The surface of the Earth? or another angle?

For more information on sun dials this is a very good site you should read through...  http://sundialsoc.org.uk/old/HDSW.php

#### zorbakim

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##### Re: multiverse: distance to the sun is 6360km
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2018, 12:43:43 PM »
The principles of sundials are the same everywhere in the world.
It was used on flat ground.

My multiverse principle is simple.
Everyone has the same celestial sphere.
The celestial Spheres revolve around the North Pole from the east to the west.
The North Star moves at a constant rate with distance along the longitude.
All celestial bodies are holograms.

#### JCM

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##### Re: multiverse: distance to the sun is 6360km
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2018, 05:26:29 PM »
The principles of sundials are the same everywhere in the world.
It was used on flat ground.

My multiverse principle is simple.
Everyone has the same celestial sphere.
The celestial Spheres revolve around the North Pole from the east to the west.
The North Star moves at a constant rate with distance along the longitude.
All celestial bodies are holograms.
The Equatorial Sundial would disagree with you.  It looks more like a wheel with spokes. The northern side works March to September and the southern side works from September to March.  Interestingly the numbers go clockwise for the Northern Hemisphere side and counterclockwise for the Southern Hemisphere side.   All sundials in the Southern Hemisphere numbers go counterclockwise.

There is nothing simple about a holographic celestial sphere... Please elaborate further if you can.

#### zorbakim

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##### Re: multiverse: distance to the sun is 6360km
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2018, 08:52:59 AM »
The principles of sundials are the same everywhere in the world.
It was used on flat ground.

My multiverse principle is simple.
Everyone has the same celestial sphere.
The celestial Spheres revolve around the North Pole from the east to the west.
The North Star moves at a constant rate with distance along the longitude.
All celestial bodies are holograms.
The Equatorial Sundial would disagree with you.  It looks more like a wheel with spokes. The northern side works March to September and the southern side works from September to March.  Interestingly the numbers go clockwise for the Northern Hemisphere side and counterclockwise for the Southern Hemisphere side.   All sundials in the Southern Hemisphere numbers go counterclockwise.

There is nothing simple about a holographic celestial sphere... Please elaborate further if you can.
I know what you're talking about.
The celestial sphere moves symmetrically between North and South.
It is the principle of waves.
holograms are waves.

#### ShootingStar

##### Re: multiverse: distance to the sun is 6360km
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2018, 10:49:31 AM »
A holographic celestial sphere is a great idea.  For a 3D planetarium at least. Using the data from GAIA which is undertaking the largest and most detailed scan of the Milky Way Galaxy you would be able to get a virtual tour of the Milky Way including the region of space around the solar system.

Yes we all see the same 'celestial sphere' but observers around the world see different parts of it depending on their location. Similarly from a single location you see different regions of the 'celestial sphere' as the Earth orbits the Sun.  I used inverted commas because we only have a perception of a sphere.  It isn't a real sphere of course!