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Flat Earth Theory / Re: airplane flight Buenas Aires to Sydney
« on: May 16, 2015, 10:22:09 AM »
Why would an airplane crash into a wall that is only ~150' tall?

So what is down there for the aircraft to crash into when it is flying at 30,000 feet in the air?

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Most people of reason would qualify the above to be something of substance. The fact that you do not is indicative of the fact that you seem to have a personal problem.

I was not the person who seems to have invented the fact Rowbotham was 'listed as a MD'

Was there ever a list in your mind when you said that?
 

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It will just prove that he called himself a doctor

Have you got any references whatsoever that he called himself a doctor or was listed as an MD????

I've been over that. He was listed as one in the patent office. During his lifetime. Which makes him a liar.

Do you have any references at all for this additional claim and the other claims I asked you about earlier???

"Following a scandal at the commune, where Parallax [Samuel Birley Rowbotham] and others had been unfairly accused of sponsoring 'the traffic in human flesh' and participating in free love, he reinvented himself as an itinerant socialist lecturer and then as 'Dr. Birley Ph.D.", practising in Manchester, Sheffield and other northern towns. When it came to medical research, Parallax's major interest was in investigating ways to make mankind immortal,..." Garwood, Christine. Flat Earth: The History of an Infamous Idea

"In 1861 Rowbotham was married for a second time to the 16-year old daughter of his laundress and settled in London, producing 14 children, of whom 4 survived. He was also alleged to be using the name "Dr. Samuel Birley", living in a beautiful 12-roomed house selling the secrets for prolonging human life and curing every disease imaginable.[4] De Morgan refers to him as S. Goulden.[1] He patented a number of inventions including a 'life-preserving cylindrical railway carriage'. Wikipedia Entry for Samuel Rowbotham

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Rowbotham

Trying to cure every disease imaginable? Allowing "MD" to be put on your tombstone? Sounds like a huckster to me.

I was hoping you might be able to produce something of substance rather than what amounts to hearsay.

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It will just prove that he called himself a doctor

Have you got any references whatsoever that he called himself a doctor or was listed as an MD????

I've been over that. He was listed as one in the patent office. During his lifetime. Which makes him a liar.

Do you have any references at all for this additional claim and the other claims I asked you about earlier???

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It will just prove that he called himself a doctor

Have you got any references whatsoever that he called himself a doctor or was listed as an MD????

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Whether he is listed there or not, which I doubt, does not indicate that he held a degree. It indicates he called himself a doctor. And people believed him to the point that no one questioned it enough to get him arrested. It can occasionally be done today. Just recently, there was a woman in CA who passed herself off as an attorney for 10 yrs. Made partner in a firm, & had never been to law school! If she could do it it 2005-2015 w/ all the background checks we do, just think what that sheister could get away with!

Do you have a reference he said he was an MD or he was listed as an MD?  You made the claim.

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He was only listed as an MD, not a surgeon.

Have you got a reference for Rowbotham being listed as a MD?

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He was only listed as an MD, not a surgeon.

Have you got a reference for Rowbotham being listed as a MD?   

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His MD is on his gravestone, as is his PhD.



The medical act became law in 1858 enabling a fine of up to 20 pounds to be levied for claiming to be qualified to practice medicine (under the terms of the act)

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/21-22/90/section/XL/enacted

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