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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Ancient Aliens
« on: April 09, 2015, 06:23:42 PM »
Well then do your own research. I ain't got time to go pull some academic papers on these subjects, which I have definitely done before. The burden of proof is on you and you're just going by some shitty History channel tv show - which guess what? Is also produced by liars.
I've said I've seen the show. My beliefs were before the show existed.

In that case, you chose to watch something that would confirm your beliefs rather than challenge them. What do you think that says about you?
It says I watch shows that talk about subjects I'm interested in... like most people do.

It's one thing to watch a show you're interested in. It's another to have a belief and watch a show that tells you that your belief is absolutely right. It's like conservatives watching Fox News all the time, or Christians watching TBN.
Right.

I love soccer, but I think I'll go watch baseball even though I hate it.

Note: All Flat Earthers should only watch videos on Round Earth.


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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Ancient Aliens
« on: April 09, 2015, 06:15:50 PM »
Are you talking about the show? Or just the theory in general? Either way, it's mostly accurate.
The theory, though I've seen the show before, too. It makes complete sense to me to think of ourselves as a mold of something outside of this earth, considering how advanced we are compared to other species -- not saying that other species are not intelligent either. In short, we're hybrids!

What actual proof do you have of this?
If you read the first post you would see I was looking for opinions. The "proof" I would put forward would actually be based on evolution, and the fact the humans have grown exponentially faster as a species than others.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Ancient Aliens
« on: April 09, 2015, 06:12:51 PM »
Our DNA is very similar to most other mammals on earth. We don't seem very alien at all.
Of course it's similar, but not completely.

We're hybrids!

Of course our DNA is not completely similar to other mammals, we're humans. That's how evolution works.
Then we agree here. Thork is the one saying it's similar.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Ancient Aliens
« on: April 09, 2015, 06:11:30 PM »
Well then do your own research. I ain't got time to go pull some academic papers on these subjects, which I have definitely done before. The burden of proof is on you and you're just going by some shitty History channel tv show - which guess what? Is also produced by liars.
I've said I've seen the show. My beliefs were before the show existed.

In that case, you chose to watch something that would confirm your beliefs rather than challenge them. What do you think that says about you?
It says I watch shows that talk about subjects I'm interested in... like most people do.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Eric Dubay shot us down
« on: April 04, 2015, 01:52:36 AM »


I think he might just be schizophrenic, to be honest.

Agreed. In his interviews, listen to his voice. He's not all there.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Eric Dubay shot us down
« on: April 02, 2015, 12:26:03 AM »
I wouldn't bother. Why give him publicity? He's the first person to say we aren't affiliated.

Yes, but not everyone knows that. Eric Dubay even has an account here. People could get confused because his forum is relatively hard to find.
No kidding. What is his forum? Haven't found it... haven't really tried that hard though.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Ancient Aliens
« on: April 01, 2015, 01:15:45 AM »
Well then do your own research. I ain't got time to go pull some academic papers on these subjects, which I have definitely done before. The burden of proof is on you and you're just going by some shitty History channel tv show - which guess what? Is also produced by liars.
I've said I've seen the show. My beliefs were before the show existed, and I never said I believe everything on it. There are plenty of "academic" papers about Round Earth theory, exponentially more than there are about ancient aliens -- doesn't mean it's true.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Ancient Aliens
« on: April 01, 2015, 12:59:26 AM »
The difference being that the statue of liberty stands upright and has aesthetic value to those on the ground whereas the Nazca lines don't.
Funny.
Regarding the Nazca Lines specifically, here's the first sentence under the history heading on the wiki page:
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Contrary to the popular belief that the lines and figures can only be seen with the aid of flight, they are visible from atop the surrounding foothills

And about geoglyphs in general, just because it might not have aesthetic value doesn't mean it's meant for aliens.
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as recent research has shown that most were not constructed primarily as art, but were rather built to serve a range of purposes including burial sites and funerary customs, aiding in the trapping of migratory animals, and as cleared areas for camps, houses and animal enclosures

Before you say anything further, why don't you first just take a quick glance at the wiki page and save my time.
Good job quoting Wikipedia, a site funded by NASA and other agencies. 

What time zone are you in? It must be amateur hour over there. 

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Ancient Aliens
« on: April 01, 2015, 12:11:38 AM »
Was the Statue of Liberty built with reference images from high in the sky? Or was it first sketched and then built to scale with calculations?
The difference being that the statue of liberty stands upright and has aesthetic value to those on the ground whereas the Nazca lines don't.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Ancient Aliens
« on: March 31, 2015, 08:43:58 PM »
There are clues if you look deep enough. Just like there are clues that the Earth is flat.

We can't rely on "satellite" pictures of round earth, because we all know that they are faked and/or doctored. How do we know that NASA or some other government agencies, superior groups, et al. isn't in on a global conspiracy where they place these tools in strategic locations to throw us all off? If they can fool all of these people into being roundies, then why couldn't they fake that ancient civilizations didn't actually make these structures. They're doing the same thing they've always done: lying.

What's the point of the Nazca lines if that civilization didn't have the technology to see them from high above? That's the only way you can tell what designs they are.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Ancient Aliens
« on: March 31, 2015, 08:29:14 PM »
I have other examples of how there are unexplained "man-made" monuments but I'm at work and typing on my phone is tedious. I will expand later.
"Unexplained" means you haven't researched the content. You haven't looked at archaeological or historical evidence. You just see something and go "well, gosh golly how did they do that? It must be aliens."
Incorrect. It means that they have been researched, and they are still unexplained. Like I said, I'll elaborate later.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Ancient Aliens
« on: March 31, 2015, 07:32:38 PM »
Ancient aliens is a terrible scam created by a known con artist.

Are you referring to Erich von Däniken?

If not, who?
Yes, that's what I said in my comment after that one.


Shit, that's probably why I shouldn't skip around in a thread. Anyways, I have to agree with you. Most of his work is stolen and adapted from other authors without giving credit to said authors.
Exactly... just because one guy might be a con artist doesn't mean that the rest of the theorists are as well either. I have other examples of how there are unexplained "man-made" monuments but I'm at work and typing on my phone is tedious. I will expand later.

As far as modern aliens go, I don't hold the belief that they are the same as those who visited in ancient times. One thing we do know is that NASA and other government agencies are covering it up, along with everything else.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Ancient Aliens
« on: March 31, 2015, 03:45:23 PM »
Our DNA is very similar to most other mammals on earth. We don't seem very alien at all.
Of course it's similar, but not completely.

We're hybrids!

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Ancient Aliens
« on: March 31, 2015, 03:43:23 PM »
What about all the smooth stones that are almost perfectly flat at Pumapunka and the pyramids? How did they get them so smooth without using modern technology. Today's technology has a hard time making some of the things from ancient times. How did ancient civilizations make it?

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Ancient Aliens
« on: March 31, 2015, 02:38:22 PM »
I cannot see why, should aliens exist, what their motives of remaining hidden would be?

It'd be far easier to turn us all into slaves or replace us entirely with alien tech robots and strip the earth of commodities. But if they can get to earth, they can get anywhere and aren't likely to need commodities. In other words by the time an alien race has the tech to get here, there isn't anything of interest to them when they arrive. We think we are fascinating. An alien race that could traverse the galaxy would likely find us incredibly dull. Especially Americans.
I don't think they are hidden. We are them, and the truth to our origin was lost over time. As to why we don't see their "machines," the Aether explains this.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Ancient Aliens
« on: March 31, 2015, 02:34:56 PM »
Ancient aliens is a terrible scam created by a known con artist.
Wrong. Who is this known con artist?

How are you so sure that Rooster is wrong if you don't even know who the con artist is that she's referring to?
Because it would take more than one "known" con artist to pull off a scam like that. It would take hundreds even. There is plenty of data out there to support ancient aliens, and it spans across several cultures, not just one. Maybe I'm the wrong who is wrong but why would she say that without backing herself up in the same post?

But I digress, my original post is for Flat-earthers who believe in ancient aliens, or of you don't, data for why not. That is what I'm concerned about.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Ancient Aliens
« on: March 31, 2015, 02:20:40 PM »
Ancient aliens is a terrible scam created by a known con artist.
Wrong. Who is this known con artist?

If you make a claim like that then you need to be able to back it up with a name and source, otherwise the only thing you're contributing to this thread is post count.

I'm only asking about ancient alien theorist because it seems most of then are roundies, but it's perfectly plausible with a flat earth.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Ancient Aliens
« on: March 31, 2015, 01:51:10 PM »
Are you talking about the show? Or just the theory in general? Either way, it's mostly accurate.
The theory, though I've seen the show before, too. It makes complete sense to me to think of ourselves as a mold of something outside of this earth, considering how advanced we are compared to other species -- not saying that other species are not intelligent either. In short, we're hybrids!

I'm wondering how this fits in with FET though? Ancient civilizations thought the world was flat, so did aliens come here and tell them that? Obviously, to the naked eye, the Earth looks flat from our perspective. Or maybe the Aether was somehow involved and is the "alien."

Sorry if this is in wrong thread. I'm just curious if someone has a theory about them and if it ties into the general FET somehow.

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Science & Alternative Science / Ancient Aliens
« on: March 31, 2015, 05:33:18 AM »
First time poster, long time reader.

I was wondering, what is the general view of Ancient Aliens on this forum?

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