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Flat Earth Community / Re: Earth seem from 1 million miles.
« on: May 05, 2019, 01:27:57 AM »
(apologies if this is a necro, but it's within the first page of the discussion board so I believe it's still reasonable to reply)

The way I see it, the substantiation of the claim that "these are images of the earth from 1 million miles away" is the video itself. It can be imagined as the first 'level' of evidence. If no effective refutal is made, then for all intents and purposes the statement can be considered true. To anyone to refutes it and claims "those images are fake", that is a seperate claim that requires its own proof. If such a claim can be demonstrated, such as showing the cameras won't be fuctional in that eviroment, or revealing how such images can be made from scratch, or even better showing the forgery being done, then that would be the next level of proof. If no effective refutal beyond that, then it can be considered fact that the images are fake. This continues until either side has no ability to refute the previous point.

So in my opinion, the video is proof until it's shown that it's not.

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I know where you're going wrong. Not to worry, you had me for a bit there too.
This assumes that from the ground to the sun is ALL atmosphere, I bet that a big chunk of it is space.

It's good to get a response. Let me see if I am visualizing this right.



Pardon my crude drawing, obviously simplified and out of scale - instead of the simple dome as by the left part of the image, our true field of vision in 3-D space is more of a dual-lobed figure like the one on the right? As the atmosphere gets thinner, the light from outside sources can travel further distances, extending the range of vision further out in the sky, and allowing us to see the celestial bodies. Any heavenly body (sun, stars) that we see on the horizon must be passing through the sloped cone on the outer lobe. Anything outside of the field is invisible to our eyes. Is this correct?

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(Sorry if this is a necro)
Reading the linked site on the FE Wiki, I'm getting the impression that one's 'local dome of visibility' and the maximum distance you can see the sun have two different radii? The article makes it clear that we only see a small part of the sun's circular path, making it appear straight and an east-west apparent motion possible. That is reinforced by:

Given that at sea level we can only see perhaps 30 miles through the atmosphere […]

If this is the case, then the sun is outside of our field of view, but it is still able to illuminate much more further out than that. If the sun is 3000 miles up then of course the sun has to be at least 3000 miles to someone experiencing noon, and more for anyone else at any other time. This is well outside the 30 mile range. What properties does the sun and other celestial bodies have that make them appear much further out than our maximum vision? Correct me if I have your explanation wrong

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: cone sun possible???
« on: March 06, 2019, 02:46:50 PM »
A conical sun still would have various degrees of oblateness to anyone not experiencing local noon - that is, if the glowing face of the sun were flat. With a curved face (teardrop-shaped sun?), it would be possible to view it as a universally circular disk.
Even we can rule out every other possible model of the sun, it would just be only a single facet of the its description; the issues of angular momentum, size and even whatever the heck it even is remains unsolved.

Concerning the earth itself, I'd had an idea of a Hersey's drop shaped earth. One part flat, one part convex curve, one part concave curve. Now I don't believe this one bit, but it's fun to imagine.

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