Woah I never knew the FES had so many posters with degrees in advanced macroeconomics
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.
Dr. Frank is a physicist. He says it's impossible. So it's impossible.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/nobody-is-humbler-than-trump/2018/04/04/f246044c-3840-11e8-acd5-35eac230e514_story.htmllol
Quote from: Rushy on April 05, 2018, 03:31:27 AMWoah I never knew the FES had so many posters with degrees in advanced macroeconomicsYou could shut down any debate on this site with a pointless ad hominem like this.
Quote from: honk on April 05, 2018, 06:09:22 AMQuote from: Rushy on April 05, 2018, 03:31:27 AMWoah I never knew the FES had so many posters with degrees in advanced macroeconomicsYou could shut down any debate on this site with a pointless ad hominem like this.How is it pointless to point out that no one here understands anything about advanced economics enough to really provide any commentary on it beyond maybe quoting some actual economist and his musings on the topic? It's not an ad hominem, it's an appeal to authority, and a very valid one at that. Going onto internet boards and watching people argue about tariffs, GDP, and trade wars is hilarious.
Quote from: Rushy on April 05, 2018, 05:39:05 PMQuote from: honk on April 05, 2018, 06:09:22 AMQuote from: Rushy on April 05, 2018, 03:31:27 AMWoah I never knew the FES had so many posters with degrees in advanced macroeconomicsYou could shut down any debate on this site with a pointless ad hominem like this.How is it pointless to point out that no one here understands anything about advanced economics enough to really provide any commentary on it beyond maybe quoting some actual economist and his musings on the topic? It's not an ad hominem, it's an appeal to authority, and a very valid one at that. Going onto internet boards and watching people argue about tariffs, GDP, and trade wars is hilarious.This applies to most debates here and most debates in general. I mean, its not like we have any hope of actually influencing policy. None of us work for Fox News.
Quote from: Rushy on April 05, 2018, 05:39:05 PMQuote from: honk on April 05, 2018, 06:09:22 AMQuote from: Rushy on April 05, 2018, 03:31:27 AMWoah I never knew the FES had so many posters with degrees in advanced macroeconomicsYou could shut down any debate on this site with a pointless ad hominem like this.How is it pointless to point out that no one here understands anything about advanced economics enough to really provide any commentary on it beyond maybe quoting some actual economist and his musings on the topic? It's not an ad hominem, it's an appeal to authority, and a very valid one at that. Going onto internet boards and watching people argue about tariffs, GDP, and trade wars is hilarious.I suppose that depends on what you hope to get out of a debate with someone online. If you just want to win, don't ever engage me. I'll never admit it even if I'm losing. But that doesn't mean I don't learn things along the way, from the objections other people have. It also doesn't mean I can't have my mind changed. Example. I was pretty annoyed the UK government awarded our new shiny blue passport contract to a French company for when we leave the EU. I mean, why would you give another nation all the passport data of your citizens? That's dumb. Imagine if the Nazis had had the passport data of all the Jews in Poland. Huge national security risk, and frankly the little more you pay for the British company to do it is worth it. Until it was pointed out to me that the company doesn't get the data. They only print blanks and the UK passport office actually finishes the passports. At which point I couldn't give a shit who does the printing of the blanks. This distinction wasn't easy to find, as the story broke. Do you think I thanked the person for improving my perspective? Of course not. But I did get something out of having the debate with a real human, as opposed to just reading articles from 'experts' who usually omit important facts you might need to form an opinion.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/06/politics/donald-trump-west-virginia-tax-speech/index.html
Quote from: honk on April 07, 2018, 03:44:46 AMhttps://www.cnn.com/2018/04/06/politics/donald-trump-west-virginia-tax-speech/index.htmlThe "analysis" is literally worse than the speech. Why do you post shit like this?
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/10/601059471/xi-says-china-ready-to-lower-import-tariffs-and-trade-barriersThe... fuck? I...I have no words.It worked?Trump being a hardass worked?This is frightening on multiple levels. But I have to give him the credit.He started an easy to win trade war. My god, his ego will feed off this for the rest of his life.
Quote from: Lord Dave on April 10, 2018, 10:13:45 AMhttps://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/10/601059471/xi-says-china-ready-to-lower-import-tariffs-and-trade-barriersThe... fuck? I...I have no words.It worked?Trump being a hardass worked?This is frightening on multiple levels. But I have to give him the credit.He started an easy to win trade war. My god, his ego will feed off this for the rest of his life.Correlation != Causation
Dunno why Trump cares about US automobiles. No one buys them, they are junk. Chinese buy European (mostly German cars). BMWs, Mercedes, Audi, VW. That kind of thing. You don't see the Chinese out driving their Chevy Spark to work.
There are cigarettes in joints. You don't smoke it by itself.
Quote from: Rama Set on April 10, 2018, 11:47:11 AMQuote from: Lord Dave on April 10, 2018, 10:13:45 AMhttps://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/10/601059471/xi-says-china-ready-to-lower-import-tariffs-and-trade-barriersThe... fuck? I...I have no words.It worked?Trump being a hardass worked?This is frightening on multiple levels. But I have to give him the credit.He started an easy to win trade war. My god, his ego will feed off this for the rest of his life.Correlation != CausationYes, but its pretty convincing evidence of correlation. Feel free to find another reason they decided to lower tariffs on automobiles just as Trump complained about it.