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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on Today at 04:06:07 PM »

So, an illegitimate "special prosecutor" introduces a bald-faced lie to the court:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/trump-says-jack-smith-should-be-arrested-after-documents-revelation-5644083?utm_source=RTNews&src_src=RTNews&utm_campaign=rtbreaking-2024-05-05-2&src_cmp=rtbreaking-2024-05-05-2&utm_medium=email&est=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa%2BcidhsJxcPN%2FrQut3NAH7F5ww0LIzwgbOIBKcVOYUPVwjDotRvn

Wait... OMG! 

Wait...OMG!

You mean Trump is being prosecuted for mishandling classified documents, yet the lead prosecutor's office is allowed to freely mishandle the same documents?

I'm not sure the article you posted would agree.
I'm not sure YOU would agree.  Unless you think putting objects back in teh same box but not the exact same configuration is "mishandling".

I am sure you are not sure.

I am sure submitting a false report of the order of contents of a box to a US District Court judge in a trial concerning the mishandling of documents is mishandling documents.

Is the order relevant to the charges?
No.

Therefore its not relevant and not mishandling.  And if this is Trump legal defence, he really has none.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Roundy on Today at 03:53:50 PM »

It's a complete non-issue, just another example of Trump doing anything he can to delay or end the trial.

That he actually seems to think this is something to be taken seriously indicates a severe case of TDS on Action80's part, poor guy. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by honk on Today at 03:04:03 PM »

Who cares? Seriously, how is this a valid legal issue?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Action80 on Today at 10:04:21 AM »

So, an illegitimate "special prosecutor" introduces a bald-faced lie to the court:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/trump-says-jack-smith-should-be-arrested-after-documents-revelation-5644083?utm_source=RTNews&src_src=RTNews&utm_campaign=rtbreaking-2024-05-05-2&src_cmp=rtbreaking-2024-05-05-2&utm_medium=email&est=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa%2BcidhsJxcPN%2FrQut3NAH7F5ww0LIzwgbOIBKcVOYUPVwjDotRvn

Wait... OMG! 

Wait...OMG!

You mean Trump is being prosecuted for mishandling classified documents, yet the lead prosecutor's office is allowed to freely mishandle the same documents?

I'm not sure the article you posted would agree.
I'm not sure YOU would agree.  Unless you think putting objects back in teh same box but not the exact same configuration is "mishandling".

I am sure you are not sure.

I am sure submitting a false report of the order of contents of a box to a US District Court judge in a trial concerning the mishandling of documents is mishandling documents.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on May 06, 2024, 09:54:43 PM »

So, an illegitimate "special prosecutor" introduces a bald-faced lie to the court:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/trump-says-jack-smith-should-be-arrested-after-documents-revelation-5644083?utm_source=RTNews&src_src=RTNews&utm_campaign=rtbreaking-2024-05-05-2&src_cmp=rtbreaking-2024-05-05-2&utm_medium=email&est=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa%2BcidhsJxcPN%2FrQut3NAH7F5ww0LIzwgbOIBKcVOYUPVwjDotRvn

Wait... OMG! 

Wait...OMG!

You mean Trump is being prosecuted for mishandling classified documents, yet the lead prosecutor's office is allowed to freely mishandle the same documents?

I'm not sure the article you posted would agree.
I'm not sure YOU would agree.  Unless you think putting objects back in teh same box but not the exact same configuration is "mishandling".

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Action80 on May 06, 2024, 05:26:58 PM »

So, an illegitimate "special prosecutor" introduces a bald-faced lie to the court:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/trump-says-jack-smith-should-be-arrested-after-documents-revelation-5644083?utm_source=RTNews&src_src=RTNews&utm_campaign=rtbreaking-2024-05-05-2&src_cmp=rtbreaking-2024-05-05-2&utm_medium=email&est=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa%2BcidhsJxcPN%2FrQut3NAH7F5ww0LIzwgbOIBKcVOYUPVwjDotRvn

Wait... OMG! 

Wait...OMG!

You mean Trump is being prosecuted for mishandling classified documents, yet the lead prosecutor's office is allowed to freely mishandle the same documents?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on May 06, 2024, 02:03:54 PM »

So, an illegitimate "special prosecutor" introduces a bald-faced lie to the court:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/trump-says-jack-smith-should-be-arrested-after-documents-revelation-5644083?utm_source=RTNews&src_src=RTNews&utm_campaign=rtbreaking-2024-05-05-2&src_cmp=rtbreaking-2024-05-05-2&utm_medium=email&est=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa%2BcidhsJxcPN%2FrQut3NAH7F5ww0LIzwgbOIBKcVOYUPVwjDotRvn

Wait... OMG!  This proves everything Trump said was right!  Clearly evidence of a box's contents is inadmissable if the position of the items in the box is different than what Trump put them in as.  Why, how many other so called "criminals" been let off because the contents of their safe full of drugs and money were shifted around after the police were there?    Every single one of those cases were thown out once the judge saw that the drugs were moved to the left side and the money on the right.  And yet, here's Trump, being railroaded for the same thing.  What's next: they'll claim his tie is of a different length from the day of the raid to his courtroom appearance?  Sad.  So sad.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Action80 on May 06, 2024, 12:52:11 PM »

So, an illegitimate "special prosecutor" introduces a bald-faced lie to the court:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/trump-says-jack-smith-should-be-arrested-after-documents-revelation-5644083?utm_source=RTNews&src_src=RTNews&utm_campaign=rtbreaking-2024-05-05-2&src_cmp=rtbreaking-2024-05-05-2&utm_medium=email&est=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa%2BcidhsJxcPN%2FrQut3NAH7F5ww0LIzwgbOIBKcVOYUPVwjDotRvn

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: What is the true map of the earth?

« Last post by Action80 on May 04, 2024, 05:38:01 AM »

With the sun circling above, along with the celestial sphere, why would you not expect it to disappear from the view of persons in varying locations.

Because the sun remains above the plane of the earth at all times.
In ancient flat earth models the sun went up and over the earth in the day and underneath at night. Day was day everywhere, night was night everywhere. They didn't know that when it's day in the UK it's night in Australia. With a sun which is always above a flat earth it should illuminate the whole of the disc. Unless there's some reason it can only be seen for a certain distance, which is plausible, but then you'd get the sun slowly fade in and out as the distance to it decreased or increased. That isn't what we observe.

That is exactly what is observed. Show an "ancient flat earth model" where it was day everywhere and night everywhere.
 

Aspects that would cause the light of the sun to be visible in some locations and not to be visible in others.

That's just a bunch of words. Give some details. You can't just reject the notion that the sun sets because we live on a rotating globe and then replace that with something vague about "aspects of the aether" with no details about what you mean by that.

One possibility is a condition similar to that of a veil.

Why on earth would you claim the luminosity of the sun does not change throughout the day? Of course, it does

During sunrise and sunset the light scatters through more of the atmosphere so yes, that does affect the luminosity, but not in a way consistent with your theory of a sun rotating above us. That would mean the distance to the sun constantly changing and that would surely affect the luminosity. Again, if visibility is the reason we can't see the sun at night then it would fade out, not set. [/quote]
Addressed above.

Why on earth does the angular size of the sun actually appear larger to the naked eye at dawn and dusk? Of course, it does.

I've bolded the word appear. Yes, there is a known optical illusion which makes this happen, in reality it's not actually bigger. And if that were true then that's the exact opposite of what you'd expect on a FE where the sun is at a significantly greater distance from you at sunset than at midday. That would make it appear smaller at sunrise and sunset. Again, I don't feel I need to provide any evidence for the assertion that things get smaller as they get further away from you.
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Reflective properties (similar to a funhouse mirror) of a dome could account for what we see.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: What is the true map of the earth?

« Last post by AATW on May 03, 2024, 03:40:26 PM »

With the sun circling above, along with the celestial sphere, why would you not expect it to disappear from the view of persons in varying locations.

Because the sun remains above the plane of the earth at all times.
In ancient flat earth models the sun went up and over the earth in the day and underneath at night. Day was day everywhere, night was night everywhere. They didn't know that when it's day in the UK it's night in Australia. With a sun which is always above a flat earth it should illuminate the whole of the disc. Unless there's some reason it can only be seen for a certain distance, which is plausible, but then you'd get the sun slowly fade in and out as the distance to it decreased or increased. That isn't what we observe.

Aspects that would cause the light of the sun to be visible in some locations and not to be visible in others.

That's just a bunch of words. Give some details. You can't just reject the notion that the sun sets because we live on a rotating globe and then replace that with something vague about "aspects of the aether" with no details about what you mean by that.

Why on earth would you claim the luminosity of the sun does not change throughout the day? Of course, it does

During sunrise and sunset the light scatters through more of the atmosphere so yes, that does affect the luminosity, but not in a way consistent with your theory of a sun rotating above us. That would mean the distance to the sun constantly changing and that would surely affect the luminosity. Again, if visibility is the reason we can't see the sun at night then it would fade out, not set.

Why on earth does the angular size of the sun actually appear larger to the naked eye at dawn and dusk? Of course, it does.

I've bolded the word appear. Yes, there is a known optical illusion which makes this happen, in reality it's not actually bigger. And if that were true then that's the exact opposite of what you'd expect on a FE where the sun is at a significantly greater distance from you at sunset than at midday. That would make it appear smaller at sunrise and sunset. Again, I don't feel I need to provide any evidence for the assertion that things get smaller as they get further away from you.