[Lord Dave]

There are reporters who have that same opinion here too. You would just screech with your lungs that they are conservatives. Like it says in the video, US liberal media is still pretending that there is no fraud.

"Just accept" that "Joe Biden will be your president". That comes off as more scared than confident to me.

In 2016 it was "Just accept that Donald Trump will be your president." Was that also more scared than confident?

[Rama Set]

There are reporters who have that same opinion here too.

Opinions? Wow. Let’s decide an election on opinions.

You would just screech with your lungs that they are conservatives. Like it says in the video, US liberal media is still pretending that there is no fraud.

It’s not just liberal media. It’s not just media, even. It’s government agencies. It’s courts. It’s even Trumps own legal team. There hasn’t been a single credible suit that even approaches the scope necessary to shift the result to Trump’s favor.
 

"Just accept" that "Joe Biden will be your president". That comes off as more scared than confident to me.

How about... just accept the evidence that Joe Biden will be your president? Trump has provided no credible evidence that this election should be overturned. None. Despite everything they have claimed in their bombastic press conferences. Whenever these claims have been heard by the court they turn out to have issue with a dozen votes here, a hundred there and even then, they haven’t been able to successfully prove their claims. Stop listening to all the punditry on both sides and actually look at what evidence is being put forth by Trump’s campaign. Its an utter failure.

[AATW]

[Roundy]

There are reporters who have that same opinion here too. You would just screech with your lungs that they are conservatives.

And there are reporters here who actually recognize the reality of the situation, like the foreigners here who disagree with you, but you would screech with your lungs that they are liberals, so what's your point?

[Tom Bishop]

Not sure I trust those links.

Well, one of those links was a direct link to the text of the Constitution. You can read it yourself.

http://constitutionallawreporter.com/article-03-section-02/

Constitution, Article 3, Section 2:

"In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make."

The 'Travis Translation' of Article 3, Section 2:

"If an Ambassador or Minister from another country, or if a state is involved, the Supreme Court can hear the case first. In all the other cases, the smaller courts will hear the cases first, and the loser can appeal their case. The Supreme Court is the final authority. The Supreme Court can look at both the law and the facts of each case, with the rules Congress has passed."

If thst was the case, why hasn't Trump's lawyers taken it there already?

Discovery takes more than a week. They already have some minor judgements from PA judges, who agreed with their claims of irregularities/improper activity, which I am sure will be used as exhibits.

It’s not just liberal media. It’s not just media, even. It’s government agencies. It’s courts. It’s even Trumps own legal team. There hasn’t been a single credible suit that even approaches the scope necessary to shift the result to Trump’s favor.

They don't need to prove all fraud. They just need to convince the justices that there is enough widespread fraud to create doubt that the process isn't transparent or audited enough in a bipartisan manner to determine.

One of the assertions is that the voting machines are rigged, which does provide scope. Otherwise they are showing widespread irregulates.

WH Press Secretary has been claiming that they have been collecting lots of evidence of fraud.

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1327009008377466881?s=20

[Rama Set]

https://www.mcall.com/news/pennsylvania/mc-nws-pa-ballots-federal-court-20201113-gt4j77ozojfdpfom6rhcwzv5lu-story.html

Another nail in the coffin.

[stack]

One of the assertions is that the voting machines are rigged, which does provide scope. Otherwise they are showing widespread irregulates.

From a statement released yesterday, JOINT STATEMENT FROM ELECTIONS INFRASTRUCTURE GOVERNMENT COORDINATING COUNCIL & THE ELECTION INFRASTRUCTURE SECTOR COORDINATING EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES
Original release date: November 12, 2020
https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election

"Despite claims made without any evidence about the validity of the November election, a collection of election officials signed on to a statement distributed by the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), which is part of the Department of Homeland Security. In it, the members of the Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC) Executive Committee said “The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history....There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.”"

[Tom Bishop]

Trump's team claims to have evidence, and that whistleblowers have stepped forward on the Dominion Voting Systems.

https://twitter.com/RealWayneRoot/status/1326555434405097477

[Rama Set]

It’s not just liberal media. It’s not just media, even. It’s government agencies. It’s courts. It’s even Trumps own legal team. There hasn’t been a single credible suit that even approaches the scope necessary to shift the result to Trump’s favor.

They don't need to prove all fraud. They just need to convince the justices that there is enough widespread fraud to create doubt that the process isn't transparent or audited enough in a bipartisan manner to determine.

Which thus far, they have utterly failed to do.

One of the assertions is that the voting machines are rigged, which does provide scope. Otherwise they are showing widespread irregulates.

WH Press Secretary has been claiming that they have been collecting lots of evidence of fraud.

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1327009008377466881?s=20

Its an assertion.  Courts don't accept assertions and indeed there have been robust rebuttals of these assertions.

Some of these affidavits have also been shown to be highly suspect, as I posted earlier, and an affidavit does not constitute evidence that the process is inherently flawed.

This is exactly the situation that Trump's campaign mocked, heartily in 2016.  You do understand that don't you?  The complete hypocrisy you are enabling?  It's fine, let the process continue.  MI is close to legally certifying their results, as is PA.  AZ is out of recount range and Trump is withdrawing lawsuits from there.  Only a few grains of sand left in the hourglass.  Once these three states are certified, Trump is going to have no one left to harass, manipulate and deceive in to propping his enterprise except the last few sad sacks who think their donations are going to a worthy cause instead of paying the interest on his Deutsche Bank loans.

SAD!

Trump's team has claims to have evidence and that whistleblowers have stepped forward on the Dominion Voting Systems.

https://twitter.com/RealWayneRoot/status/1326555434405097477

"Confirmed"

Giuliani says a lot of things.  Let's wait for evidence, right?

[Rama Set]

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/michigan-judge-puts-the-kibosh-on-trump-supporters-conspiracy-theories-about-detroit/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

And another lawsuit tossed.  I hope there begins to be sanctioning for frivolous lawsuits to curb lawyers enthusiasm for this nonsense.  Only cases with actual merit need apply.

[AATW]

Trump's team claims to have evidence, and that whistleblowers have stepped forward on the Dominion Voting Systems.

They claim lots of things.
Meanwhile, back in the real world they lose case after case because weirdly people saying “I think I saw a thing” isn’t particularly strong evidence.

When all this legal nonsense is over are you going to accept that Biden won fair and square or are you just going to double down and still claim the election was stolen despite the legal processes not finding any credible evidence of systemic fraud?

(I know the answer to that question but thought I’d give you a chance to commit to doing the honest thing)

[Rama Set]

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/11/12/kayleigh-mcenany-confuses-detroit-election-process-fraud/3761887001/

It's this type of ignorance that is often being mistaken for legitimate irregularities or fraud.  I wonder if Trump's campaign is knowingly spreading falsehoods.

[Tom Bishop]

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/11/12/kayleigh-mcenany-confuses-detroit-election-process-fraud/3761887001/

It's this type of ignorance that is often being mistaken for legitimate irregularities or fraud.  I wonder if Trump's campaign is knowingly spreading falsehoods.

Nah. They're lying about a lot of that.

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/meet-michigans-dead-voters-theyre-quite-alive-despite-false-fraud-claims

"118-year-old William Bradley voted via an absentee ballot in Wayne County, Michigan this year," Ryan Fourner, founder of Students for Trump, wrote in Facebook post shared more than 14,000 times. "William died in 1984. They’re trying to steal this election."

In reality, there were two William Bradleys in the Qualified Voter File registered at the same address in Detroit, according to the Department of State. It appears a local elections worker incorrectly recorded an absentee ballot cast by the younger Bradley as one cast by the elder, an error that has since been corrected.

"The most likely explanation is that a ballot submitted by the 1959 Bradley was accidentally recorded as being received from the 1902 Bradley," said Wimmer, a spokesperson for the Department of State.

People on the internet put in the 1902 Bradley's information into the state's website and it came up as "ballot received":

https://thedonald.win/p/11PpBIFClU/fraud-dead-people-voting/c/



Video of someone putting the information in:

https://twitter.com/fleccas/status/1324220539326603265

[AATW]

Nah. They're lying about a lot of that.

And yet their court cases keep getting thrown out of court.
It's weird, isn't it?

[Rama Set]

A clerical error has nothing to do with the practice of entering a placeholder birthdate as a matter of policy.

[Tom Bishop]

A clerical error has nothing to do with the practice of entering a placeholder birthdate as a matter of policy.

They acknowledge that the dead Bradley with that birthday and zip code from 1902 exists.

What do you imagine happened? They were typing the information in for the living Bradley, had a list of dead people open for another project, and accidentally typed in the dead Bradley's information into the fields? Quite a stretch.

Just more evidence against you.

[Rama Set]

A clerical error has nothing to do with the practice of entering a placeholder birthdate as a matter of policy.

They acknowledge that the dead Bradley with that birthday and zip code from 1902 exists.

What do you imagine happened? They were typing the information in for the living Bradley had a list of dead people open for another project and accidentally typed in the dead Bradley's information into the fields? Quite a stretch.

Just more evidence against you.

Your incredulity does not make your interpretation correct, nor does it make it evidence of fraud in this instance much less systematic fraud on the scale being alleged and necessary to change the 130,000 vote lead in MI.

Conspicuously absent is any dispute over the policy of entering a 1901 birthdate on ballots missing a birthdate which is the systemic explanation for why there is a large number of 120 year old voters in this election.

[AATW]

Your incredulity does not make your interpretation correct, nor does it make it evidence of fraud in this instance much less systematic fraud on the scale being alleged and necessary to change the 130,000 vote lead in MI.

Exactly this.
In a population of 300 million people you're going to get some instances of voter fraud.
You're going to get some clerical errors.
That doesn't mean the above is either of those, but they're definitely going to happen.
What the Trump people have to prove is there is systematic fraud which is attempting to steal the election from him.
So far they are spectacularly failing to do that.

[Rama Set]

It’s very analogous to how the democrats alleged Russian interference, as it were so widespread that it compromised the election. What was found? Yes, there was social media activity that was designed to undermine American unity. Did it undermine the election? No.

[jamball]

A clerical error has nothing to do with the practice of entering a placeholder birthdate as a matter of policy.

They acknowledge that the dead Bradley with that birthday and zip code from 1902 exists.

What do you imagine happened? They were typing the information in for the living Bradley, had a list of dead people open for another project, and accidentally typed in the dead Bradley's information into the fields? Quite a stretch.

Just more evidence against you.

You do understand that you're not supposed to make an assumption (voter fraud) and then go looking for the evidence. You collect evidence and then determine if fraud happened. The evidence shows that widespread voter fraud DID NOT HAPPEN.