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Title: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: TomInAustin on April 21, 2021, 03:24:31 PM

I saw an article this morning about the planned rural broadband plan, a great idea but dated. Cost of 150 Billion. When StarLink is in full deployment, there will be no need to run fiber everywhere.


According to a Federal Communications Commission (FCC) December 2018 Internet Access Services report, 44 million households do not even have a standard broadband connection, either because they do not have access or can't afford it.

22 billion would buy every one of them a Starlink package and the government could help out with the monthly nut for those needing it. Of course, not all of them need the handout but some do.

Boom, saved 128 billion minimum.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Iceman on April 21, 2021, 03:35:23 PM
It's a fair point to make, but handing over an instant monopoly to a single private company giving them control of what is increasingly becoming an essential service/utility is a potentially dangerous proposition
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Toddler Thork on April 21, 2021, 03:41:42 PM
Is this a trap?

Let's agree that this is a ground based communication system like LORAN and that the earth is flat. Then we can talk about the method of communication.



It is hard to think of a President in any country or at any time in history, who panders more than Biden. Biden will say whatever he thinks you want to hear. And if you live in the rust belt and aren't voting for him yet, he'll tell you he's going to give you superfast broadband. But it is my opinion (and I'm biased because I think the dems are absolute shitbags and you should have taken the lesser evil - Trump), but it is my opinion that if Biden's lips are moving, he is probably promising someone something that they will never ever get.
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: junker on April 21, 2021, 03:43:15 PM
I am sure it will go as well as the last time telcos were incentivized with hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies to deliver "broadband" across the country. Instead of lobbying to change the definition of broadband maybe this time they will change the definition of "fiber."
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Lord Dave on April 21, 2021, 03:46:49 PM
Starlink sounds great but bandwidth is a thing.
The more people who use it, the slower it'll be as the signal needs to chop up the cycle into more and more pieces.  Not to mention how beneficial the added broadband would be for everything else, like businesses.  Remember, the reason these people have no broadband is because its too expensive to run cable for too few customers.
So this is something the government would excel at providing.  Plus they can lease the lines themselves and not have to deal with a monopoly, which exists now because ISPs have to lease lines to run and if Comcast ran the line, why would they let anyone else use it?
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: TomInAustin on April 21, 2021, 05:42:49 PM
Is this a trap?

Let's agree that this is a ground based communication system like LORAN and that the earth is flat. Then we can talk about the method of communication.


Since I can see Starlink sats with my own eyes I must disagree. 
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Tumeni on April 22, 2021, 11:00:02 PM
It is hard to think of a President in any country or at any time in history, who panders more than Biden. Biden will say whatever he thinks you want to hear.

He's been in office less than 100 days. Far too early for your pronouncement to have any credibility.
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Tom Bishop on April 22, 2021, 11:15:48 PM
It is hard to think of a President in any country or at any time in history, who panders more than Biden. Biden will say whatever he thinks you want to hear.

He's been in office less than 100 days. Far too early for your pronouncement to have any credibility.

Sounds like an excuse that you made up. What is your pronouncement based on?
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Rama Set on April 22, 2021, 11:39:06 PM
It is hard to think of a President in any country or at any time in history, who panders more than Biden. Biden will say whatever he thinks you want to hear.

He's been in office less than 100 days. Far too early for your pronouncement to have any credibility.

Sounds like an excuse that you made up. What is your pronouncement based on?

You should cite the study comparing the amount of pandering each president has done in their first hundred days instead of trying to weasel out of your response.
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Tumeni on April 23, 2021, 08:28:21 AM
What is your pronouncement based on?

The inescapable numerical fact that 100 days is far, far less than either 4 years or 8 years.

Biden has not completed but a fraction of a first term.
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Action80 on April 23, 2021, 01:06:42 PM
What is your pronouncement based on?

The inescapable numerical fact that 100 days is far, far less than either 4 years or 8 years.

Biden has not completed but a fraction of a first term.
So, being elected to the office of President = less pandering.

Interesting display of a total disregard of the behavioral sciences on your part, Tumeni.
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Rama Set on April 23, 2021, 01:10:25 PM
What is your pronouncement based on?

The inescapable numerical fact that 100 days is far, far less than either 4 years or 8 years.

Biden has not completed but a fraction of a first term.
So, being elected to the office of President = less pandering.

Interesting display of a total disregard of the behavioral sciences on your part, Tumeni.

You aren’t TotalLackey, you are TotalStrawman.
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Tumeni on April 23, 2021, 01:56:25 PM
So, being elected to the office of President = less pandering.

No, if we're going to compare Presidents, as Thork was doing, to imply a pattern of behaviour in comparison to other Presidents' patterns, it's disingeneous to compare a 'less than 100 days in the post' President with any other who has completed one or two terms.

Dontcha think?
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Toddler Thork on April 23, 2021, 08:11:22 PM
Biden isn't a blank slate. He's been pandering his whole career and it goes back much further than just 100 days. He promised a black female VP during his election run. He didn't care who that was. He just wanted to tick the box.

He promised to decriminalise marijuana ... to get black voters. Let's see if he does that or whether he was just pandering.

He's a serial panderer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYl8s6pjrcI
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Iceman on April 23, 2021, 08:46:59 PM

He promised to legalise marijuana ... to get black voters. Let's see if he does that or whether he was just pandering.

I hope he does.

But that's for a different thread entirely
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Lord Dave on April 23, 2021, 08:47:30 PM
I dunno.
I mean, I'd call that "Giving the people who vote for me what they want" since, you know, that's part of the job.

I mean, the last guy literally hired an analytics company to mine social media so he knew what the people who voted for him liked.  I'd call that pandering.
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Toddler Thork on April 23, 2021, 08:53:30 PM

He promised to legalise marijuana ... to get black voters. Let's see if he does that or whether he was just pandering.

I hope he does.

But that's for a different thread entirely

He's more likely to give broadband to every hick in America.  ::)
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Iceman on April 23, 2021, 09:54:10 PM
Which is also a good thing...
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Lord Dave on April 24, 2021, 09:39:54 AM

He promised to legalise marijuana ... to get black voters. Let's see if he does that or whether he was just pandering.

I hope he does.

But that's for a different thread entirely

He's more likely to give broadband to every hick in America.  ::)

And more people would come to the site and then you'd have more like minded people to talk to. 
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Rama Set on April 24, 2021, 05:58:15 PM


He promised to legalise marijuana ... to get black voters. Let's see if he does that or whether he was just pandering.

2/3s of Americans support marijuana legalization. Stop being the race-baiter you accuse the left of being.
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Toddler Thork on April 25, 2021, 10:13:22 AM


He promised to legalise marijuana ... to get black voters. Let's see if he does that or whether he was just pandering.

2/3s of Americans support marijuana legalization. Stop being the race-baiter you accuse the left of being.
Biden suggests this as a policy for black people.
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/joe-biden-includes-marijuana-decriminalization-in-new-plan-for-black-america/

The Dems make everything about race. They only see colour.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jan/26/biden-made-lot-promises-about-race-can-he-keep-the/
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Rama Set on April 25, 2021, 10:22:31 AM


He promised to legalise marijuana ... to get black voters. Let's see if he does that or whether he was just pandering.

2/3s of Americans support marijuana legalization. Stop being the race-baiter you accuse the left of being.
Biden suggests this as a policy for black people.
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/joe-biden-includes-marijuana-decriminalization-in-new-plan-for-black-america/

The Dems make everything about race. They only see colour.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jan/26/biden-made-lot-promises-about-race-can-he-keep-the/

That’s because Black people suffered an inordinate amount of hardship because of the USs draconian drug laws. Receiving more and harsher sentences for the same charges vs white people. All for a substance that should be legal. That’s not pandering, it’s doing the right thing.
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Toddler Thork on April 25, 2021, 10:38:26 AM
That’s because Black people suffered an inordinate amount of hardship

Just as well black people have great white saviours like yourself to stand up and speak for them. Without truly virtuous people like yourself willing to defend the frail and pathetic black people who are too dim and too drugged up to speak for themselves, black people would likely have appalling lives. Thank God you recognise their hardship and are brave enough to get on a soapbox to tell me about it.  ::)
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Iceman on April 25, 2021, 11:26:49 AM
Jesus Christ, Thork. That's some dumb shit right there.
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Toddler Thork on April 25, 2021, 11:32:49 AM
Black people in America have every opportunity that white people do. Likely they are offered better opportunities. They are not discriminated towards in any way whatsoever. Education, jobs, health, sports ... whatever ... its all there for them. They aren't victims. They don't need wrapping in cotton wool. They need to look at themselves and make better life choices. That's it.

If they want to run around pistol whipping bitches and selling fentanyl on street corners because they think they look good dressed like a blinged out 1990's rapper and call crime 'hustling', welp, expect a policeman's knee on your neck. Or put on a suit, get a job and live in the suburbs ... you'll get treated just like the white folk who live there.  ::)
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Rama Set on April 25, 2021, 11:45:33 AM
Black people in America have every opportunity that white people do. Likely they are offered better opportunities. They are not discriminated towards in any way whatsoever. Education, jobs, health, sports ... whatever ... its all there for them. They aren't victims. They don't need wrapping in cotton wool. They need to look at themselves and make better life choices. That's it.

If they want to run around pistol whipping bitches and selling fentanyl on street corners because they think they look good dressed like a blinged out 1990's rapper and call crime 'hustling', welp, expect a policeman's knee on your neck. Or put on a suit, get a job and live in the suburbs ... you'll get treated just like the white folk who live there.  ::)

Ok, racist rant aside, what does this have to do with black people and marijuana?  You literally used the opportunity to respond to what I said with a moronic rant that showed exactly how bigoted you are.  Nice job.
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Toddler Thork on April 25, 2021, 01:29:44 PM
what does this have to do with black people and marijuana?

I already linked you that he is only making this pledge to pander to black voters.
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/joe-biden-includes-marijuana-decriminalization-in-new-plan-for-black-america/

To reiterate, because you seem to have trouble following a thread ... I don't believe he will do it. I think he tells lots of lies. I think he just says whatever he thinks will score him points. He won't actually do anything. Like his broadband plan that also won't go anywhere. Its just pandering to rust belt voters.
Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: garygreen on April 25, 2021, 02:57:18 PM
biden is LEGALIZING MARIJUANA to pander to black voters didn't you even read the article i posted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111123

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/joe-biden-includes-marijuana-decriminalization-in-new-plan-for-black-america/

"Notably absent from his plan is legalizing marijuana for adult use..."

lol literally this whole article is about how — contra the wishes of the people who voted for him — biden is opposed to legalization, and his policies do not go far enough.

i know it's harder to read the smaller words that come after the big giant words at the top, but sometimes the smaller words have useful information in them.

Title: Re: Biden's Broadband plan
Post by: Lord Dave on April 25, 2021, 09:24:38 PM
what does this have to do with black people and marijuana?

I already linked you that he is only making this pledge to pander to black voters.
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/joe-biden-includes-marijuana-decriminalization-in-new-plan-for-black-america/

To reiterate, because you seem to have trouble following a thread ... I don't believe he will do it. I think he tells lots of lies. I think he just says whatever he thinks will score him points. He won't actually do anything. Like his broadband plan that also won't go anywhere. Its just pandering to rust belt voters.

I like how Thork is upset Biden "says whatever he thinks will score him points" but loved it when Trump did that on a daily basis and even held rallies just to hear people cheer his name.