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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Wiki Spam
« on: March 24, 2024, 03:16:00 PM »
Makes sense. If both Tom and I ended up in a similar scenario (noticed vandalism, made edits, and those edits turned into more vandalism), it almost makes me wonder if someone made changes to our MediaWiki code. I'll poke around a little this evening.
I didn't see any obviously suspicious changes when I diffed a vanilla MediaWiki with our current code, but that didn't cover all the extensions we've added, so there's a chance there's something somewhere in there.

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Wiki Spam
« on: March 24, 2024, 02:20:15 PM »
I tried upgrading MediaWiki to 1.41.0, and after manually cleaning up a bunch of duplicate database records and upgrading some extensions, I found our theme calls deprecated functions and I don't know to what extent it's been customised. I've already given up half my afternoon that I was supposed to spend studying and I'm unlikely to have any more time to waste on this until sometime in mid-April. For now it's back on the old version with edits still disabled.

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Wiki Spam
« on: March 24, 2024, 01:24:05 PM »
Are you certain about that? I manually reverted the vandalism, but I saw no evidence of my account making any malicious edits.
When I looked at the change your account made, the diff just changed the vandalism to different vandalism. It's now gone, of course, since I restored an old backup.

Also, it's worth keeping in mind that just reverting the database is likely not to be very effective on MediaWiki. It seems more likely to me that some of the vandalism persisted in its cache, and that making an edit restored it.
The Southern Hemisphere page wasn't listed in Tom's original list of vandalised pages, so it's not at all clear whether there was any original vandalism to persist in the cache. To be on the safe side, I've restarted memcached (I already restarted php when I restored the database before), so now there is no cache from before the database restore.

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Wiki Spam
« on: March 24, 2024, 01:13:33 AM »
Something funny seems to still be going on.
Agreed. I suspect a vulnerability in MediaWiki allowing someone to impersonate users, since the page you linked was defiled by your and Pete's accounts. I don't have time to investigate properly right now, so I've disabled POST requests in the web server configuration and restored the same backup again. This means that nobody will be able to log in or edit pages until this is properly dealt with, which will probably involve upgrading to the latest version of MediaWiki.

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Wiki Spam
« on: March 20, 2024, 03:12:07 PM »
Thanks, I've restored a database backup from before these pages were created and deleted the user account that created them. Other recent changes since 3 March will also be gone, if there are any, but we can restore those as needed.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Political compass
« on: March 12, 2024, 02:21:44 AM »

Status Notices / Re: Scheduled maintenance, 2023-07-08
« on: July 08, 2023, 10:28:20 AM »
Maintenance complete (somewhat later than expected). There are some remaining issues to be addressed, but I will schedule a separate maintenance window for those.

The title did not make clear that I was looking for how FEers answered that question but the post did so.  I thought it was a pretty ordinary question.
Yet you posted it in Angry Ranting, a forum dedicated to not getting answers to questions, for which reason the rules are relaxed. Circumventing the rules by inappropriately posting in forums where there are fewer of them is not okay.

Status Notices / Scheduled maintenance, 2023-07-08
« on: July 05, 2023, 12:08:45 AM »
The homepage, forum and wiki will be going offline for up to 2 hours on 2023-07-08 between 08:00 and 10:00 UTC.

In your local time (if you are logged in and have your time offset correctly configured), this is
July 08, 2023, 08:00:00 AM to July 08, 2023, 10:00:00 AM.

The server will be upgraded to a new stable release of its operating system. This introduces the risk that problems will arise afterwards. If you notice any, please create a thread in Suggestions & Concerns so that we can deal with it. Thank you.

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Can't report PM
« on: May 29, 2023, 01:25:49 AM »
You might want to consider adding a reporting function in PMs.
Fair point, but in the meantime, you can add users to your ignore list if you don't want to receive PMs from them. I understand that this doesn't solve the core problem.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Eurovision
« on: May 23, 2023, 04:43:02 PM »
Exactly. I'm glad we agree :)
That was my point all along. I wanted to understand why you had made a claim about which you had no information that was irrelevant in the first place.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Eurovision
« on: May 23, 2023, 04:35:34 PM »
He neglects to mention his ability to speak Finnish in his profile.
That is fine, since I didn't claim that he was interpreting from Finnish. I only claimed that you do not know if he was interpreting from English (which is still the case, since he lists several other languages that he could have been interpreting from).

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Eurovision
« on: May 23, 2023, 04:17:14 PM »
Because that isn't his job. He works for the BBC whose main output is in English. So his job is to translate from English into BSL.
And given that less than 0.1% of the world's population speak Finnish, it is statistically improbable that he is one of them.
You aren't looking at a person randomly chosen from the world's population, or even from the world's BSL interpreters. The person in question is the BBC's interpreter who was tasked with interpreting a song in Finnish into BSL. If the BBC has even one such interpreter who understands Finnish, it is most likely they would give the job to that person.

Of course, it is also possible that he is interpreting from an English translation, but it doesn't make any difference whether he is interpreting from English or Finnish, so why make an unfounded claim either way?

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Eurovision
« on: May 23, 2023, 04:01:41 PM »
I think it's reasonable to assume that a BBC BSL signer doesn't speak Finnish.
Why is it reasonable to assume that someone whose job it is to interpret between languages doesn't speak one specific language?

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Eurovision
« on: May 23, 2023, 03:44:29 PM »
In the sense that the Finish original was translated into English and the bloke was doing BSL based on that.
But how can you or your church buddy know that's what he's doing just from watching it?

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Eurovision
« on: May 23, 2023, 03:12:34 PM »
Apparently that dude is signing an English translation of the song.
In what sense is it an English translation?

Apparently it’s about leaving work on Friday, feeling a bit silly at the pub and then loosening up after a few drinks. Or something
The Rebecca Black of Finland?

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Eurovision
« on: May 14, 2023, 07:47:48 PM »
I still wish they would stop singing in English. Half of the interesting stuff about Europe is the linguistic diversity that was wiped out by colonialism in most other parts of the world. Why suppress it?

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Quick question
« on: December 06, 2022, 08:26:01 PM »
This is covered in the rules. See rule 8.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Liz Truss
« on: October 22, 2022, 07:44:15 PM »
The only reasonable way out of any of this is a general election. Anything else is just prolonging the torment.

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