tl;dr: NASA would not be able to classify information concerning faking a Moon landing.These are the current rules for classification of information. §3.3(a) states that all documents from more than 25 years ago are automatically declassified, with nine exceptions outlined in §3.3(b):Information identifying a key intelligence source or weaken intelligence gathering.Information regarding WMDs.Codebooks.Information that would weaken a state-of-the-art weapons system.War plans that are still in effect.Information that would greatly weaken diplomatic relations.Presidential security detail or its vulnerabilities.Weaknesses in national security emergency preparations.Information whose declassification would violate a treaty or act of Congress.I must ask, which of these would faking the Moon landings fall under?
Quote from: 9 out of 10 doctors agree on May 09, 2018, 11:16:19 PMtl;dr: NASA would not be able to classify information concerning faking a Moon landing.These are the current rules for classification of information. §3.3(a) states that all documents from more than 25 years ago are automatically declassified, with nine exceptions outlined in §3.3(b):Information identifying a key intelligence source or weaken intelligence gathering.Information regarding WMDs.Codebooks.Information that would weaken a state-of-the-art weapons system.War plans that are still in effect.Information that would greatly weaken diplomatic relations.Presidential security detail or its vulnerabilities.Weaknesses in national security emergency preparations.Information whose declassification would violate a treaty or act of Congress.I must ask, which of these would faking the Moon landings fall under?This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! It's like robbing a bank and then keeping it on record. This is dumb.
Quote from: kasai on May 10, 2018, 06:07:56 PMQuote from: 9 out of 10 doctors agree on May 09, 2018, 11:16:19 PMtl;dr: NASA would not be able to classify information concerning faking a Moon landing.These are the current rules for classification of information. §3.3(a) states that all documents from more than 25 years ago are automatically declassified, with nine exceptions outlined in §3.3(b):Information identifying a key intelligence source or weaken intelligence gathering.Information regarding WMDs.Codebooks.Information that would weaken a state-of-the-art weapons system.War plans that are still in effect.Information that would greatly weaken diplomatic relations.Presidential security detail or its vulnerabilities.Weaknesses in national security emergency preparations.Information whose declassification would violate a treaty or act of Congress.I must ask, which of these would faking the Moon landings fall under?This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! It's like robbing a bank and then keeping it on record. This is dumb.By the Freedom of Information Act, they are required to. It's not a question of why they kept a record.
Well I guess this is the first time someone went against the requirement.
Quote from: kasai on May 17, 2018, 01:32:12 PMWell I guess this is the first time someone went against the requirement.They would have been bankrolling an entire film crew, as well as purchasing some incredibly expensive apparatus to create those parallel shadows. They've also released classified documents for other missions they've done.Why would this be any different?
Quote from: 9 out of 10 doctors agree on May 17, 2018, 01:52:28 PMQuote from: kasai on May 17, 2018, 01:32:12 PMWell I guess this is the first time someone went against the requirement.They would have been bankrolling an entire film crew, as well as purchasing some incredibly expensive apparatus to create those parallel shadows. They've also released classified documents for other missions they've done.Why would this be any different?Idk I'm not NASA, I do know there is many secrets the US Government is keeping from you, so why wouldn't NASA do the same?
I do know there is many secrets the US Government is keeping from you, so why wouldn't NASA do the same?
Nearly all flat earthers agree the earth is not a globe.
This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! It's like robbing a bank and then keeping it on record. This is dumb.
Quote from: 9 out of 10 doctors agree on May 10, 2018, 01:34:22 AMOf course, FET contends that the rockets were all real, so how would declassifying how they did the rest undermine ICBMs?Long range ICBMs require earth orbit to exist.
Of course, FET contends that the rockets were all real, so how would declassifying how they did the rest undermine ICBMs?
Do you have a citation for this sweeping generalisation?
Quote from: 9 out of 10 doctors agree on May 10, 2018, 01:52:08 AMICBMs usually travel in suborbital trajectories, which saves a lot of fuel. It would also be possible on a flat Earth.Look at Hitler's rocket programs during WWII. Without getting into earth orbit he could only get his rockets to an operational range of 200 miles or so. After WWII ended the Cold War goal was to get Hitler's rockets into orbit for unlimited range, and to put in a nuclear payload. The rockets thenceforth were all based on the Nazi V2 design. The V2 was recreated from Nazi blueprints and launched in White Sands New Mexico, and modifications were made to it until it could allegedly get into earth orbit.
ICBMs usually travel in suborbital trajectories, which saves a lot of fuel. It would also be possible on a flat Earth.
Quote from: Tom Bishop on May 10, 2018, 01:43:10 AMQuote from: 9 out of 10 doctors agree on May 10, 2018, 01:34:22 AMOf course, FET contends that the rockets were all real, so how would declassifying how they did the rest undermine ICBMs?Long range ICBMs require earth orbit to exist. Wrong. ICBM means intercontinental ballistic missile. A ballistic trajectory is not orbital by it's very definition. Throw a rock and it's a ballistic missile.
Quote from: TomInAustin on May 20, 2018, 07:44:37 PMQuote from: Tom Bishop on May 10, 2018, 01:43:10 AMQuote from: 9 out of 10 doctors agree on May 10, 2018, 01:34:22 AMOf course, FET contends that the rockets were all real, so how would declassifying how they did the rest undermine ICBMs?Long range ICBMs require earth orbit to exist. Wrong. ICBM means intercontinental ballistic missile. A ballistic trajectory is not orbital by it's very definition. Throw a rock and it's a ballistic missile. Long range ICBMs get into a sub-orbital path, which could not exist if the earth is not a globe.