a new opportunity to inspect the claim.
Inspect away! Who's stopping you?
Well, no-one. But I accept the claim. I've watched some video of the landing and it orbiting the moon but I don't feel the need to inspect it or micro-analyse every frame of it.
I don't have the skills to anyway - the people who call all this sort of stuff fake definitely don't either.
I am interested in all this stuff. I've seen a Shuttle launch - more by luck than judgement, just happened to be in Florida on holiday when one was going up.
I've visited the Kennedy space centre a few times, watched some documentaries about it all. I read "A Man On The Moon" - an excellent book about the Apollo programme and touches on the Gemini and Mercury ones that preceded it. I've read about how Jodrell Bank were tracking Apollo 11 - and an unmanned Russian mission that was trying to land first. I've read how the Australians were relaying signals from the Apollo craft to the US.
I've done what I practically can and based on the evidence I've seen I'm satisfied that it all happened. Rocket technology demonstrably exists, it's not like they're claiming to have teleported there. All the stuff I've seen about it being a hoax are based on ignorance or incredulity. All of it.
Maybe. What do you propose? You just keep saying "inspect" and "investigate", but what specifically do you want us to do (presumably free of charge), and why aren't you doing it yourself. I think part of the problem is that you're asking us to veer away from Zeteticism. We're primarily interested in exploring the phenomena around us, and it sounds to me that you expect us to read a news article and emptily debate it.
I've covered the why aren't I doing it above. I've suggested some things above which could be done.
Fair point about Zeteticism, but you must have
some strategy for coming to beliefs about stuff you can't directly experience.
Mine is to evaluate the evidence. What other option is there?
and you're expressing frustration that they're not playing ball with you.
I'm just surprised that more effort isn't put in to this. OK, going in to space isn't that accessible, but you can go see rocket launches for yourself (easier for those in the US, admittedly). With decent optics you can see the ISS. Most FE people seem to just put it all in one big box marked "FAKE" and leave it at that.
I guess the reason I see this as something you'd want to be looking in to more is that it's a discriminator between the two models.
If there are things like GPS satellites and the ISS orbiting the earth, if there are things orbiting the moon and landing on it then I'd submit that the FE model as presented in the Wiki isn't possible.
I
think you dispute that, and I'd be interested in your ideas about that, but most FE people seem to just call it all fake without putting much effort in to assessing the evidence.
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