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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on June 29, 2025, 08:19:46 AM »Sounds like obliterate means “cause a few months delay”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c79qeqg89g2o
Ha! The most successful military strikes in history? By what fucking measure? Because the dropping of the two atomic bombs, which made Japan surrender, was the most successful strikes in history.
Two bombs ended a war.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by AATW on June 29, 2025, 07:43:02 AM »Sounds like obliterate means “cause a few months delay”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c79qeqg89g2o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c79qeqg89g2o
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on June 28, 2025, 01:17:56 PM »Early reports, like the leaked, classified report, indicates that not only did the strike not obliterate the sites, but the uranium was moved to other locations.
The fight now is: What does obliterate really mean?
The fight now is: What does obliterate really mean?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by markjo on June 27, 2025, 10:31:01 PM »"Obliterated" or not, unless the enriched uranium has been vapourised, it may still exist in some form.Again, with all of the advance warning, it's fairly likely that the stockpile of enriched uranium was moved as well. The centrifuges might be a different story.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by DuncanDoenitz on June 27, 2025, 09:58:35 PM »If we accept that the Fordo site was a weapon production facility, which seems to be the position of both Israel and USA, then it is was a legitimate military target.
"Obliterated" or not, unless the enriched uranium has been vapourised, it may still exist in some form. Any attempt at rebuilding, recovery or salvaging of either the product, or its means of production, is also a legitimate military target.
"Obliterated" or not, unless the enriched uranium has been vapourised, it may still exist in some form. Any attempt at rebuilding, recovery or salvaging of either the product, or its means of production, is also a legitimate military target.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by markjo on June 27, 2025, 08:59:47 PM »Trump had been talking about the strike for days, so the site was most likely already evacuated, therefore it's doubtful that anybody was trapped or dying in the rubble.From the above PBS article:But the site was obliterated, according to Trump. Shouldn't have BEEN survivors. And if Israel just wanted to kill anyone who tried to assess damage just because they can... yeah, that's a war crime.QuoteThe Israeli military also confirmed it struck roads around Iran’s Fordo enrichment facility to obstruct access to the site.
They took out the roads to prevent emergency responders from trying to help people who may have been trapped or dying in the rubble. This is reprehensible, and likely a war crime. Attacking the survivors of a bombing is distinctly different than the bombing of the infrastructure itself.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on June 27, 2025, 07:24:32 PM »From the above PBS article:But the site was obliterated, according to Trump. Shouldn't have BEEN survivors. And if Israel just wanted to kill anyone who tried to assess damage just because they can... yeah, that's a war crime.QuoteThe Israeli military also confirmed it struck roads around Iran’s Fordo enrichment facility to obstruct access to the site.
They took out the roads to prevent emergency responders from trying to help people who may have been trapped or dying in the rubble. This is reprehensible, and likely a war crime. Attacking the survivors of a bombing is distinctly different than the bombing of the infrastructure itself.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by markjo on June 27, 2025, 05:19:21 PM »But Trump said they did. Hit that site and obliterated it.Trump also said that there was a cease fire. Apparently neither side got the memo.
Then Israel hits the same spot again.The article said that they hit the roads going to that spot, among other targets.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Tom Bishop on June 27, 2025, 05:15:45 PM »From the above PBS article:
They took out the roads to prevent emergency responders from trying to help people who may have been trapped or dying in the rubble. This is reprehensible, and likely a war crime. Attacking the survivors of a bombing is distinctly different than the bombing of the infrastructure itself.
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The Israeli military also confirmed it struck roads around Iran’s Fordo enrichment facility to obstruct access to the site.
They took out the roads to prevent emergency responders from trying to help people who may have been trapped or dying in the rubble. This is reprehensible, and likely a war crime. Attacking the survivors of a bombing is distinctly different than the bombing of the infrastructure itself.