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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Shane on Today at 01:48:39 AM »

no it doesn't...

edit: Tom posted this nonsense and deleted it: "This represents money coming out of the international companies and back to America." responding to the tanking markets

in other news: up is down and left is right

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Shane on Today at 12:57:09 AM »

lol

so calculated. so methodical.

also



what even is the point of these tariffs again?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on April 02, 2025, 08:58:29 PM »

Wait, your now claiming citizens are uninjured?

Good to know.

Bitching can cease and case is closed.

Yes.  Because every information leak did no harm to citizens, directly.  The information isn't owned by the public and the people who would be injured is military.  Which falls under Trump.

Of course, you don't seem to understand that or how law works.  Or how... Anything works, really, except maybe the post button here.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Flat Earth Popularity stronger than ever!

« Last post by AATW on April 02, 2025, 08:28:02 PM »

After the many years of the naysaying and the supposed "deboonking", flat earth is enjoying an evident resurgence.

Is it? If it’s evident then there should be some evidence. Is there?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Flat Earth Popularity stronger than ever!

« Last post by markjo on April 02, 2025, 07:46:38 PM »

After the many years of the naysaying and the supposed "deboonking", flat earth is enjoying an evident resurgence.

The globesters are out of ammunition. They will soon start Armageddon.

Oh?  Then why did several prominent FE’ers like Jeranism renounce FE after the Final Experiment?
https://www.unilad.com/technology/space/flat-earth-explained-jeranism-antarctica-273856-20241219

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by markjo on April 02, 2025, 07:42:10 PM »

Video snipped.

Entertainment lawyers have no credence in the discussion.

If you had bothered to watch the video, you would have seen that he brought on other lawyers who have more insight into such matters.  Like a former Judge Advocate General who knows a whole lot more about the laws regarding information security than you or Tom do.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Action80 on April 02, 2025, 07:28:36 PM »

Wait, your now claiming citizens are uninjured?

Good to know.

Bitching can cease and case is closed.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on April 02, 2025, 06:04:55 PM »

I ignored nothing.

Tell you what. You claim the ability to apply the law. Devin is certainly capable of filing suit against the Trump Administration. He can certainly press charges in this instance and demand accountability and for the law to be upheld. You two go ahead and get together and get to work, toot sweet.

Why?  Senate Republicans are doing that now.  I'll wait for them.

Plus, a criminal or civil cases can't be brought up by an uninjured entity. The only group that could file charges is the US government, specifically the AG.  And not even releasing the location of all our nuclear warheads would get that to happen, so it'll never be touched, legally, by the AG.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Action80 on April 02, 2025, 05:10:26 PM »

I ignored nothing.

Tell you what. You claim the ability to apply the law. Devin is certainly capable of filing suit against the Trump Administration. He can certainly press charges in this instance and demand accountability and for the law to be upheld. You two go ahead and get together and get to work, toot sweet.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on April 02, 2025, 04:51:40 PM »

Again, it would be so beneficial for you to learn to read my fucking posts before you respond.

I have no problem with the one law or any of the laws that Devin cites in this case.

He just doesn't know how to fucking apply the laws.

Essentially, he is just like you and all the other goddamn harpies..."CLASSIFIED INFO!!! CLASSIFIED INFO!!!"

None of you fucking know a goddamn thing about classified fucking info.

I do.
However, as I'm sure you ignored, the espionage act doesn't require the info to be classified but simply have a potential to cause harm to the United States if it's released.  War plans like described would have been listed as confidential as they could cause harm to the US if they are leaked.  But the information isn't sensitive enough to reach secret level as the harm would be short term (failed mission, time to prepare defenses to shoot down the planes, etc...) and would not leave any lasting harm directly.


And even so, the entire crux of the problem isn't the info specially, it was that high level officials added someone who shouldn't be there to a group chat.  On a personal phone.  As they talked about sensitive military maneuvers.  And Signal uses your personal address list on your phone when you add people (or you type the number in manually) SO that means that unless he just happened to hit the right number by accident, he had The Atlantic's editor in chief in his contact list. 

If this guy's personal phone was ever compromised, it would be trivial to replace contact info so he'd be adding in spies to signal chats instead of using the actually secure devices that won't add anyone outside of approved people.